Just wondering why I, Bodybuilder is taking such a long time to be released. Anaconda and MAG-10 have both been out for a few weeks and the program and supps were supposedly tried and tested “in the trenches”. Why the long wait?
Coach Thib has written so extensively about everything surrounding the “I, Bodybuilder” that by now you should be able to construct your very own I, Bodybuilder training program, even if it has not been released yet.
All the principles behind the program have been presented and discussed in the forums and in the articles with the exceptional clarity that coach Thibaudeau has shown in every one of his explanations about his training theories.
What i’m trying to say here is, don’t wait for the program, read all the articles and threads in the forum, and if you like them, apply the principles to your training. This way, when the program is released, you’ll be able to use it more effectively.
Just remember what Thibs is trying to teach to us all:
"So often we focus on advanced training design, thinking it’s the key â?? or frequency, or rep volume, or loads, or regulating rep speed, or body-part splits, or the ideal exercise program â?? that we forget to look at the most basic of elements: the rep.
The very act of performing a repetition is, no matter how you dissect training, the most basic and by far the most important part of training. In fact, doing reps is training."
It’s like giving you a problem and the answer right away. In this case, you won’t have the time to think about the problem and understand the answer. CT wants us to understand the principles, the foundations of that future program and not only follow it without knowing anything about it.
Why the long wait?
To get horny as hell, my friend!
[quote]awaken279 wrote:
It’s like giving you a problem and the answer right away. In this case, you won’t have the time to think about the problem and understand the answer. CT wants us to understand the principles, the foundations of that future program and not only follow it without knowing anything about it.[/quote]
Granted what you both are saying applies to many who have the “omg i cant waint for Anaconda and IBB to come out so i can look like Ronnie Coleman attitude” but having lifted throughout high school for football and baseball and done explosive squats since ive developed pubes i can honestly say that applying the Ramping, Perfect Rep, HTH methods that Thibs is preaching was pretty simple for me. Ive been making great progress on my 531 template so far but all B.S. aside i just wanna see the damn program! and i have a hard time believing that others arent just as anxious.
[quote]Hazzyhazz24 wrote:
Granted what you both are saying applies to many who have the “omg i cant waint for Anaconda and IBB to come out so i can look like Ronnie Coleman attitude” but having lifted throughout high school for football and baseball and done explosive squats since ive developed pubes i can honestly say that applying the Ramping, Perfect Rep, HTH methods that Thibs is preaching was pretty simple for me. Ive been making great progress on my 531 template so far but all B.S. aside i just wanna see the damn program! and i have a hard time believing that others arent just as anxious. [/quote]
So you’ve been training with all the techniques he’s discussed, using (and making) great progress on 5/3/1 and you’re still anxious to see this program? If you’ve really been paying attention, then you realize the program isn’t as important as the techniques. Why don’t you just focus on incorporating the techniques he discusses into your routine as they’re revealed?
Read CT’s posts in these two threads:
Things That Don’t Matter Much… Things That Do
and Why I, BODYBUILDER Isn’t as Important as You Think
I believe that Christian and Tim wanted to give everyone plenty of time to digest and begin incorporating the Perfect Rep technique before going the next step.
In fact, now that I think about it, I’m pretty sure Christian has discussed this in at least one prior post on the topic.
If I’m not mistaken, I believe CT said that the first program for IBB will be out earlier next week. The shoulder specialization one.
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[quote]ds1973 wrote:
[quote]Hazzyhazz24 wrote:
Granted what you both are saying applies to many who have the “omg i cant waint for Anaconda and IBB to come out so i can look like Ronnie Coleman attitude” but having lifted throughout high school for football and baseball and done explosive squats since ive developed pubes i can honestly say that applying the Ramping, Perfect Rep, HTH methods that Thibs is preaching was pretty simple for me. Ive been making great progress on my 531 template so far but all B.S. aside i just wanna see the damn program! and i have a hard time believing that others arent just as anxious. [/quote]
So you’ve been training with all the techniques he’s discussed, using (and making) great progress on 5/3/1 and you’re still anxious to see this program? If you’ve really been paying attention, then you realize the program isn’t as important as the techniques. Why don’t you just focus on incorporating the techniques he discusses into your routine as they’re revealed?
Read CT’s posts in these two threads:
Things That Don’t Matter Much… Things That Do
and Why I, BODYBUILDER Isn’t as Important as You Think
i have read both articles and realize how CT and Tim don’t just want people to think this is just another “program” to follow. All I am saying is that it really doesn’t make sense to tell us about it, provide us with techniques and supplements to include into our own training and still keep the program unrevealed. If IBB isnt that important then whats all the hype they generated about. I think what CT has done by explaining and basically dissecting training (reps and rep schemes, ramping, etc) inside out is great for any lifter regardless of training experience. but my question has not been answered.
why all the wait and if the techniques provided are the most crucial component. then why put IBB (the program) up on a pedestal as the greatest program ever by providing all the “gains” that are only dreamt of or whatever. Maybe Im over thinking this and maybe im just blowing the whole thing out of proportion. Regardless of wether IBB comes out today or next year i know for sure that nothing beats hard work and consistency but I just couldnt connect the dots as to why they would provide us with everything except the program making it seem as the most important of all. Ex. the big video on the bottom of the page. Anaconda and MAG-10. etc.
[quote]Hazzyhazz24 wrote:
I just couldnt connect the dots as to why they would provide us with everything except the program making it seem as the most important of all.
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Well that is the point! The program is nothing that special without the ‘perfect rep’ and autoregulation.
What they did NOT want is people simply waiting for a specific program. They did NOT want people to act like they usually do whenever a new program is posted and every newb switches to it just like they switch every single week.
[quote]mitak wrote:
[quote]Hazzyhazz24 wrote:
I just couldnt connect the dots as to why they would provide us with everything except the program making it seem as the most important of all.
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Well that is the point! The program is nothing that special without the ‘perfect rep’ and autoregulation.[/quote]
Correct. I’m actually a bit upset that people are so hung up on the program. It misses the point. Our original goal is to teach a WAY TO TRAIN. The IBB “program” is basically one of the first step in learning to apply the principles we are gradually trying to explain.
The first concepts are the perfect rep and autoregulation. Once these are understood the IBB program (with video) will put these in application. Those who want to follow a program and not design their own will thus be able to experiment with the principles.
As we introduce new concepts/principles we will also put up different programs, including the next set of principles.
See this as some sort of “lifting school” where you have to study and learn to apply a certain level of stuff before moving up to the next grade.
I’m not anxious for the program. I am anxious for more descriptions and videos on how to perform the perfect rep on different exercises. I think that those of us who have been following the threads get the principle of the perfect rep. We get the principle of auto-regulation. And quite frankly I’m happy with the results I’ve been getting from the routines I’ve put together applying all of these techniques.
But I still have questions and doubts about the execution of the perfect rep.
About the speed of the eccentric on different lifts and the execution of the fast turnaround.
I have questions about how on days when your not seeing an increase in your MFP compared to the last time you trained a particular lift, and if auto-regulating means you should stop once you reach your MFP (even if it lower than your previous MFP). Or if you should bang out a few more 3 reps sets at the lower weight to ensure that you’re getting that physiological effect.
I get that auto-regulating goes hand in hand with “dominating” the weight. But on those days when you’re not reaching previous MFP’s you can still dominate sets for that lower MFP weight…but it doesn’t feel like you’re “dominating” it because mentally you know it’s not as good as you did the week prior…
Until the programs come out, I’m happy to keep experimenting and finding my own way. But it’ll be nice when there’s more information and more examples out there to guide us along.
Just anxious for new videos, i just love those videos because they not only are a great addition to the articles in terms of understaining the concepts, they’re also a great source of motivation, make me watch the perfect rep vid and i wanna go straight to the gym ^^
all makes sense. Professor X, have you been applying the low rep schemes into your training, or are you a firm believer of the basic 8- 12 rep method. I ask because I highly respect your opinion on anything that has to do with bodybuilding.
[quote]Hazzyhazz24 wrote:
all makes sense. Professor X, have you been applying the low rep schemes into your training, or are you a firm believer of the basic 8- 12 rep method. I ask because I highly respect your opinion on anything that has to do with bodybuilding.[/quote]
If anything I have increased my reps lately. I am also not trying to gain a ton of weight right now. I started using the Anaconda supplements in October and noticed I was recovering faster and also adding weight in spite of generally not forcing calories down which is a first for me. I spent the next couple of months trying to adjust my diet so that I could see just how much I would need to eat now to maintain, gain or even lose (since my overall long term goal is to drop weight this year but while also holding onto all or at least most of the muscle I spent the last year and a half solidifying to my frame.
My strength also went up to the point that I had to back away from some movements because my joints were starting to give out before the muscle would.
Lately, back, legs, arms and even shoulders are now done with either slower reps or higher reps with no weight reduction.
I am working on feeling the muscle more…which has worked for my biceps, quads and even calves that are all up in size from last year while at around the same body weight.
In effect, because the supplements did produce a noticeable change in progress, I had to slow down and reassess how I was eating and even training in order to determine how to proceed next when I truly cut back on calories even more rather than just carb reduction.
forgive him! he knows not what he says
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