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Elaborate. I think I’m missing something
As valuable as you & a few others input could be, I’d have to say “Expect Nothing!”.
Not because I’m a stoic or anything, but because the dude doesn’t even know how to lift or eat yet, let alone balance his macros, optimize a lifting plan, and self administer a raft of bathtub pharmaceuticals.
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Maybe I was too. I was calculating his claimed height based on the surfboard, and was skeptical.
The guy in the kitchen has bigger legs, but maybe it’s just the angle.
This is pretty tough. It was a few years back.
weight at start of 1st cycle around 185
weight at end of 1st cycle around 200ish
total mg load of 1st cycle 500 test/125 deca
rough average calories per day during cycle. I don’t recall but I w as def eating to grow. Believe I was eating around 4000 cals.
, was this a surplus for you yes. Prob 1000ish cals
I was on get after the cycle. I went back to Maintinance and I think I got back down around 195 or so. Prob 15%
This is all from memory but pretty close.
The stage shot that OP mocked had me at 178lbs and idk you tell me my bf. That was down from 212. Four months prior. I’ll admit I didn’t diet correctly for the show and ended up flat. @RT_Nomad tries to help along the way but I was stubborn and stayed the course. If I had listed instead of thinking I knew better I’ll bet I would have had a much better look.
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what did you discover?
thanks for the reply forgot to ask how many weeks was the 1st cycle?
14 weeks
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Well on my end…you know my M.O. ill just sit back and eat my popcorn. Im here for the entertainment.
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That surfboard looks to be about 11 feet, the distance from the floor to the top of the microwave is typically 66 inches, the size of an average human head is about 10 inches. So maybe it is him.
But all the other advice in this thread still stands.
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He’s onstage. You’re burning food in your underwear. 'Nuff said.
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Me too. It has good lysine content!
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This was about 5 years ago, so I don’t really remember exactly. I think I started at 220ish and ended at 230ish. I was doing 325 mg/wk Test E for 12 or 13 weeks, and IIRC, I had 4 weeks at the end of Anavar at 50 mg/day.
I don’t know the calories, but I was eating and watching the scale climb. I was too fat starting out TBH, so I didn’t want to gain much more than the 10ish lbs I gained (of which some was fat too). In hindsight, I should have cut before hand. I kept that weight for a year or two, then cut down to 205 lbs, then I did an additional cut after being 205 for about a year to 190 lbs. I am 5’10" for reference. At 190, I believe myself to be fairly lean at approximately 12% (my Avatar photo is around this condition). Avatar photo bigger:
Yes, I do have trouble adding size to my arms!
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Based on the many decades being involved in lifting to get big and/or strong, I see two specific things that make a 13lb gain and appear the same body composition for OP:
- He is 28 years old. Most every man, as he ages in his 20’s (and is not sedentary) will add some muscle just having testosterone pumping through their veins and doing various things that involve some physical activity. The biggest challenge for this age group is maintaining the body composition of their teen years. OP has accomplished that. He looks very good.
- He has, by his claim, 2.5 years of weight training under his belt. This has used up the easy “beginner gains.” (I have seen a beginner with obvious good genetics make great gains in a short period of time.) For OP there are no more beginner gains to be had. I have never seen any person with that much training experience gain close to 13lbs in 20 weeks AAS-free (providing he isn’t coming back from quite a few months layoff.)
AAS could make the difference if OP has a larger number of androgen receptor sites most others. IMO, still not very likely.
This is all no more than my opinion.
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Yeah… but your speaking from a position of experience from what you have seen over the years.
I went back and clarified… I have nothing but respect for @RT_Nomad
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I agree he has answered many questions for me about his experiences over the last couple of years. a very valuable resource.
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@bulldog9899 and @throwawayfitness are going to make my head swell.
But all my experiences aren’t doing me much good at 75 years of age. Maybe I can offer something of use to those who can apply it for more acquiring “weird” muscle.
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Just showing respect
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Can one of the smarter guys write a program that is specifically focused on weird muscles?
I seriously want to do it.