How Reed Trains

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Thaks Reed, today, Sunday, was my first day implementing your advice, I did heavy fronts squats and deads, I’ve been workoing out 6 days a week, 3 lower, and 3 upper, but I’m going to start taking Tues completely off ( instead of squating) and do CAT on Thurs.

I’ve been updating my pic’s and status every 3mths, since I came back last June, so I’m due for an update March 1st, so it works out, that i’ll implement your program for 3 full months, and be able to track my progress. This isn’t the reason why I started this thread, but the truth is, since I came back, I was getting good gains, right up until the Dec 1st update, and the last 3mths, I’ve been stagnent, and haven’t gained an inch. So it seems I need a change of pace, and what your doing seems both similar and different at the same time. As long as you don’t mind wearing the trainer hat for 3mths, on top of everything else your doing, I’m on board !

I’m pretty happy with upper body stuff, as I’m basicaly following a 531 template for bench ( Fri) and incline ( Mon) with a BBing type thing on ( Wed) I got a bunged up shoulder, and can’t press heavy over head, so on Wed, I do EDT for military, and pull-ups, just as many reps as I can get in 15 min, with 135, and body weight pull-ups, back and forth, seems to keep my shoulder healthy and happy

So in short, Sun, heavy front squats, followed by Deads, and Thurs CAT squats, followed by some Dimmel’s probably. I’m actually pumped about the change of pace, thanks for the info, stay strong !

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Thaks, since the end of Nov, when shit stopped moving forward week to week, I’ve just been running in too many directions at once, so I’ll give CAT an honest 3mths, see if somthing don’t happen. I’ll let ya know. good luck with teh meet

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[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
Thaks, since the end of Nov, when shit stopped moving forward week to week, I’ve just been running in too many directions at once, so I’ll give CAT an honest 3mths, see if somthing don’t happen. I’ll let ya know. good luck with teh meet[/quote]

Sounds good if you have a hard time maintaining speed through the entire movement attach some bands to force to too. Will help.

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“I dont pull much right now. I do alot of speed pulls in the off season but only go heavy from blocks and Reverse Bands during that time. Also I do them heavy on weeks that I CAT Squat and Frojt Squat for higher reps.”

Man my approach must be ass backwards then. I always use super high percentages when squatting and if I am feeling really strong I will just try and add more weight and go for a pr. I got pinned under the bar squatting last week and fucked my back up. I guess its time to reevaluate my methods.

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I don’t understand how you can use so much AAS and have such a pathetic bench. Seriously, do you only have 1 arm?

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t understand how you can use so much AAS and have such a pathetic bench. Seriously, do you only have 1 arm?
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No I have said on many occasions when people as that I have horrible shoulders. My right shoulder has been dislocated many times (football, wrestling, wrecked motorcycle and while in the army) and it becomes extremely painful when trying to bench press with any kind of volume.

You can actually in a video a few weeks ago in my log of 300 that as soon as I get almost to lockout my shoulder actually pops out of socket and then right back in thank god but, that was the end of the session. You can even find where it has effected my ability to squat because I can’t get the bar into position on many days because of it. So my bench sucks and I’m doing everything I can to bring it up but, its going to be a stupid slow process.

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Have you done anything for your shoulders? Rehab, sports medicine, “corrective work”, anything like that?

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So happy you started this thread @AnytimeJake…after a tough lifting session last night, I was going to send @Reed a message today to pick his brain about my accessory work and other lifts!! :slight_smile:

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Keep the programming/percentage/training principles coming! I really need to read this for life after 5/3/1

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[quote]caylanmicahsmom wrote:
So happy you started this thread @AnytimeJake…after a tough lifting session last night, I was going to send @Reed a message today to pick his brain about my accessory work and other lifts!! :)[/quote]

Ask away ill help where I can if it has not been answered

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[quote]chobbs wrote:
Keep the programming/percentage/training principles coming! I really need to read this for life after 5/3/1[/quote]

Lol if honestly interested between this, my log, and the race between me and Nikos you should have plenty to read.

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t understand how you can use so much AAS and have such a pathetic bench. Seriously, do you only have 1 arm?
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Oh come on now nemesis, this is a little bit “piss in the cheerios” even by your standards lol.

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t understand how you can use so much AAS and have such a pathetic bench. Seriously, do you only have 1 arm?
[/quote]
This is about as pleasant as a limp dick laying next to Jennifer Aniston

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So happy you started this thread @AnytimeJake…after a tough lifting session last night, I was going to send @Reed a message today to pick his brain about my accessory work and other lifts!! :slight_smile:

Ask away ill help where I can if it has not been answered:

You mentioned that if your squat is going up so should your deadlift. I feel that mine is but not at the same rate. Could it be because I’ve switched from conventional to sumo pulling since my last meet (November), but seen more growth in my squat than my deadlift…
Do you feel there are better accessories for pulling conventional vs sumo?

How long did it take you (including working with Sam Byrd) knowing when you are getting to that high CNS taxing phase and needing to back off? Are their cues that tells you so you know your CNS is getting to the taxed point?

Thanks for the advice :slight_smile: I will have more questions :slight_smile:

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
I don’t understand how you can use so much AAS and have such a pathetic bench. Seriously, do you only have 1 arm?
[/quote]

Oh come on now nemesis, this is a little bit “piss in the cheerios” even by your standards lol.[/quote]

The elephant in the room, man. It was a valid question. I think I will start a thread about “How Csulli Trains His Squat” next.

Anyway, I actually think all his #s are low given the heavy AAS use.

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For the majority of people I think its true. You may not be the case. The reason my Deadlift increases relatively with my squat because my Pulls are about the same set up as my Squat with foot position. I have literally been taught to think of the sumo pull as a Squat with the bar in your hands. You wanna keep chest high knees put and twisted put the entire and hip hinge as hard as possible at the top. If you Squat wide and pull conventional or vice versa it may not have as much carry over.

As for the conventional vs Sumo accessories I do to a extent but I strongly believe that they have more in common than not. GHR, Dimmel Deads, Pull Throughs, and Front Squats are the biggest ones we rely on. Although Block Pulls have greatly helped my Sumo compared to anything they did for my conventional. Lastly if you pull Sumo in a meet atleast half if not more of your time should be devoted to pulling Conventional.

It took me a while to be able to just tell but, now my tell tell signs are having a hard time going to sleep, staying asleep, and lack of appetite. Also, I was always just drained. I used to train Westside style where your maxong out weekly and just got to a point of absolutely dreading going in to the gym. Now that there is a much more set programming I just feel ready to go and kill it every week.

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Knowlage, is knowlage, so lets not get into an ASA debate, or how much help it gives, this varies person to person, and who cares !

Anyway, I think alot of guys get to a place, where climbing under PR atempts every week, just starts to get counter-productive. I know coming back about a year ago, that doing just that worked, but only to a certain point, where the weights get heavy enough, that they start beating you up. I know this thread, and Reeds ( Byrds) methods make sense, as well as the Pwnisher thread, between you guys, there alot of ways to keep moving forward, without maxing out every week.

This sounds stupid, but once you finaly get tha 315 bench, or 500 deadlift, or whatever number you’ve been chasing, it’s hard not getting it every week, it’s like a mind block, because it’s probably not what you did to get there, but you get stuck ( atleat in my case) working up to that same number every week, once you have it. I’ve been doing exactly this with the squat for the last 3mths, working up to a heavy ugly double, every week, and not gaining an inch in 3mths. So between you and Pwnisher, Reed, I’ve formulated a new plan, that has me taking a couple steps back, in order to move forward in the long run. It seems a lot of guys, are in the same boat, and have come to the same realization.

I’m a coach for christ sakes, but when it came to my own training, and getting strong again after 15yrs, I fell right into the heavy weight on my back, every week trap, as well. So thanks, Reed, it seems to be what I needed to wake me up !

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[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
Knowlage, is knowlage, so lets not get into an ASA debate, or how much help it gives, this varies person to person, and who cares !

Anyway, I think alot of guys get to a place, where climbing under PR atempts every week, just starts to get counter-productive. I know coming back about a year ago, that doing just that worked, but only to a certain point, where the weights get heavy enough, that they start beating you up. I know this thread, and Reeds ( Byrds) methods make sense, as well as the Pwnisher thread, between you guys, there alot of ways to keep moving forward, without maxing out every week.

This sounds stupid, but once you finaly get tha 315 bench, or 500 deadlift, or whatever number you’ve been chasing, it’s hard not getting it every week, it’s like a mind block, because it’s probably not what you did to get there, but you get stuck ( atleat in my case) working up to that same number every week, once you have it. I’ve been doing exactly this with the squat for the last 3mths, working up to a heavy ugly double, every week, and not gaining an inch in 3mths. So between you and Pwnisher, Reed, I’ve formulated a new plan, that has me taking a couple steps back, in order to move forward in the long run. It seems a lot of guys, are in the same boat, and have come to the same realization.

I’m a coach for christ sakes, but when it came to my own training, and getting strong again after 15yrs, I fell right into the heavy weight on my back, every week trap, as well. So thanks, Reed, it seems to be what I needed to wake me up ![/quote]

Thanks Anytime. I really hope it works for you seriously. I enjoy watching your log and progress and would love if I was able to help add to that in any way.

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For the majority of people I think its true. You may not be the case. The reason my Deadlift increases relatively with my squat because my Pulls are about the same set up as my Squat with foot position. I have literally been taught to think of the sumo pull as a Squat with the bar in your hands. You wanna keep chest high knees put and twisted put the entire and hip hinge as hard as possible at the top. If you Squat wide and pull conventional or vice versa it may not have as much carry over.

As for the conventional vs Sumo accessories I do to a extent but I strongly believe that they have more in common than not. GHR, Dimmel Deads, Pull Throughs, and Front Squats are the biggest ones we rely on. Although Block Pulls have greatly helped my Sumo compared to anything they did for my conventional. Lastly if you pull Sumo in a meet atleast half if not more of your time should be devoted to pulling Conventional.

It took me a while to be able to just tell but, now my tell tell signs are having a hard time going to sleep, staying asleep, and lack of appetite. Also, I was always just drained. I used to train Westside style where your maxong out weekly and just got to a point of absolutely dreading going in to the gym. Now that there is a much more set programming I just feel ready to go and kill it every week.

@Reed…thank you so much that has been helpful. Front squats I think are what are missing from my programming that can help me see better gains. I’m 5 weeks out from a meet, but will add them when training for my next meet in July. I squat narrow and just switched to low bar and seen gains, so hopefully with a few tweaks here and there can see gains in my deads for July. I also need to eat more, but as a female that is a hard concept to swallow because of the fear of getting fat or not making weight. I eat well considering I cook for a husband and kids (I usually make separate meals), but I know I probably need more calories too which will help with the physical wear on my body. I really appreciate you sharing your expertise! :slight_smile:

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[quote]caylanmicahsmom wrote:
@Reed…thank you so much that has been helpful. Front squats I think are what are missing from my programming that can help me see better gains. I’m 5 weeks out from a meet, but will add them when training for my next meet in July. I squat narrow and just switched to low bar and seen gains, so hopefully with a few tweaks here and there can see gains in my deads for July. I also need to eat more, but as a female that is a hard concept to swallow because of the fear of getting fat or not making weight. I eat well considering I cook for a husband and kids (I usually make separate meals), but I know I probably need more calories too which will help with the physical wear on my body. I really appreciate you sharing your expertise! :)[/quote]

No problem I really hope they help you out.