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[quote]shootingman99 wrote:

[quote]bundy wrote:

[quote]To the original poster, keep up the assistance work for your deadlift. Incorporate exercises such as good mornings, kroc rows and as I said earlier ensure your grip strength is increased. Always remain focussed on correct technique. There no point pulling a personal best and screwing your back in the process and being out of action. No one gets stronger out of the gym recovering from injuries.

Good mornings would be a good idea I think. I raised my deadlift from 335x1 to 375x5 on the Bill Starr 5x5, but I added good mornings, right after deadlifts. I really feel like the good mornings helped me. I have heard a lot of people say to keep them at 8 reps, but I like heavy 5 rep sets, which for me is like 3x5x205.
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Each to their own. I usually go light on the good morning and focus on technique however I have no problem with people going heavy. Remember this is an assistance exercise and not a main lift. These will also help with improving the squat.[/quote]

I like doing them heavy because they feel like they are working the shit out of my back, I hadn’t done them in a month and I just did them two days ago and my lower back is still sore as anything lol. And the whole thing about not posting pictures because other people fake them just sounds stupid, 99% of the people are probably not faking.
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If this exercise is done correctly the hamstrings should also be targeted. Also one thing I forgot to mention is when deadlifting don’t round the shoulders. This will occur as you keep pushing yourself. The heavier you go the shoulders will naturally want to roll forwards. I incorporated heavy dumbbell and barbell shrugs to help prevent this. It worked wonders.

Also don’t kid yourself with the 99% estimate.

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well done man, i pulled it about a year ago and i remember thinking, ‘’ which part of ma body is guna break when i get to the top’’

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Congrats man…keep pushing.

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[quote]If this exercise is done correctly the hamstrings should also be targeted. Also one thing I forgot to mention is when deadlifting don’t round the shoulders. This will occur as you keep pushing yourself. The heavier you go the shoulders will naturally want to roll forwards. I incorporated heavy dumbbell and barbell shrugs to help prevent this. It worked wonders.

Also don’t kid yourself with the 99% estimate. [/quote]

How much you deadlifting Bundy? I ask as I’ve read some pretty strong pullers say nearly the opposite of your recommendations in here WRT shoulder rounding. I’d have to guess you’re pulling some fairly decent numbers to scoff at Beans 505 pull as well. Some experience with a back injury caused by deadlifts?

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Congrats!
Hopefully I’ll be there soon too, only 30 pounds to go.

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Gratz to OP and others who have pulled 4 plates per side. I remember being so pumped afterward that I felt like I could have lifted a house. Those kinds of milestones are so exciting and motivating.

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Congrats OP. I did 395x5 on Saturday, and go for 405x5 this Wednesday, and it will be the first time I do 4 plates. I’m excited for it.

Side note:Bundy looks like a complete idiot in this thread. And I don’t even like countingbeans…

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Why do people who have hundreds of posts say they cannot even pull 405? I can pull 465 (with bad form) and do not feel comfortable giving people advice.

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[quote]Ritter wrote:
Why do people who have hundreds of posts say they cannot even pull 405? I can pull 465 (with bad form) and do not feel comfortable giving people advice.[/quote]

Maybe they’re asking for advice?

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[quote]Ritter wrote:
Why do people who have hundreds of posts say they cannot even pull 405? I can pull 465 (with bad form) and do not feel comfortable giving people advice.[/quote]

I’m one of the people you’re calling out. The fact that you’re deadlifting with bad form is probably the reason you shouldn’t feel comfortable giving people advice. You also don’t know how much people weigh and how long they’ve been lifting/deadlifting for.

But again, why are we taking this thread away from it’s well intentioned OP? He had a breakthrough workout, give him credit for it dammit!

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[quote]The other Rob wrote:

[quote]If this exercise is done correctly the hamstrings should also be targeted. Also one thing I forgot to mention is when deadlifting don’t round the shoulders. This will occur as you keep pushing yourself. The heavier you go the shoulders will naturally want to roll forwards. I incorporated heavy dumbbell and barbell shrugs to help prevent this. It worked wonders.

Also don’t kid yourself with the 99% estimate. [/quote]

How much you deadlifting Bundy? I ask as I’ve read some pretty strong pullers say nearly the opposite of your recommendations in here WRT shoulder rounding. I’d have to guess you’re pulling some fairly decent numbers to scoff at Beans 505 pull as well. Some experience with a back injury caused by deadlifts?[/quote]

There’s no point telling you how much I deadlift because any number I give will be immediately labelled as bullshit. I will tell you this though, I have been deadlifting once to twice per week (depending on program structure) for the last twelve years and weight 107 kilo. I’m not the strongest man in the world but I’m pretty confident that I deadlift more than you and know I pull more than countingbeans. Yes I have injured my back from deadlifting. I put this down to when I just did sit ups and the like instead of weighted sit ups and med ball work. Since I strengthened this area the back feels great again.

What are you trying to say, the strong pullers you speak to recommend rolling your shoulders? If that is the case then go ahead and do it. Roll your shoulders, which will lead to your back rounding and increase the chances of injury.

If you don’t want to listen to me then read this quote from Wendler from 5/3/1 “Your upper back should be pulled together with your shoulders over the bar.” Pulled together means shoulders not rounded.

Which leads to his next point of “Your lower back should be arched or held static in whatever position you’re in. I don’t
deadlift with a perfectly arched back, but it’s not rounded either, and it won’t round during
the lift.”

If you’re going to talk shit to me at least get your facts right. But then again this is the bodybuilding section.

I don’t care what you do I was just trying to help the original poster.

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[quote]chimera182 wrote:

[quote]Ritter wrote:
Why do people who have hundreds of posts say they cannot even pull 405? I can pull 465 (with bad form) and do not feel comfortable giving people advice.[/quote]

Maybe they’re asking for advice?[/quote]
Or posting in other sections like GAL or PWI.

This thread is getting me fucking stoked for my next DL day. Bring it!

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Good job, dude, kudos to you!

Kinda sad and fishy that so many people in this thread feel the need to mention that they, too, had hit 4 plates in the (not too distant) past.

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obvious troll is obvious…

I got $750 on the fact I can name at least 4 other accounts this doucher posts under…

Keep talk about me, I fucking love it. Because your claims are bullshit.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
obvious troll is obvious…

I got $750 on the fact I can name at least 4 other accounts this doucher posts under…

Keep talk about me, I fucking love it. Because your claims are bullshit. [/quote]
His statement about not rolling the shoulders is spot on.

Everyone who disagrees with you is a troll, huh? Is that how it works now beansie?

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[quote]bundy wrote:

[quote]The other Rob wrote:

[quote]If this exercise is done correctly the hamstrings should also be targeted. Also one thing I forgot to mention is when deadlifting don’t round the shoulders. This will occur as you keep pushing yourself. The heavier you go the shoulders will naturally want to roll forwards. I incorporated heavy dumbbell and barbell shrugs to help prevent this. It worked wonders.

Also don’t kid yourself with the 99% estimate. [/quote]

How much you deadlifting Bundy? I ask as I’ve read some pretty strong pullers say nearly the opposite of your recommendations in here WRT shoulder rounding. I’d have to guess you’re pulling some fairly decent numbers to scoff at Beans 505 pull as well. Some experience with a back injury caused by deadlifts?[/quote]

There’s no point telling you how much I deadlift because any number I give will be immediately labelled as bullshit. I will tell you this though, I have been deadlifting once to twice per week (depending on program structure) for the last twelve years and weight 107 kilo. I’m not the strongest man in the world but I’m pretty confident that I deadlift more than you and know I pull more than countingbeans. Yes I have injured my back from deadlifting. I put this down to when I just did sit ups and the like instead of weighted sit ups and med ball work. Since I strengthened this area the back feels great again.

What are you trying to say, the strong pullers you speak to recommend rolling your shoulders? If that is the case then go ahead and do it. Roll your shoulders, which will lead to your back rounding and increase the chances of injury.

If you don’t want to listen to me then read this quote from Wendler from 5/3/1 “Your upper back should be pulled together with your shoulders over the bar.” Pulled together means shoulders not rounded.

Which leads to his next point of “Your lower back should be arched or held static in whatever position you’re in. I don’t
deadlift with a perfectly arched back, but it’s not rounded either, and it won’t round during
the lift.”

If you’re going to talk shit to me at least get your facts right. But then again this is the bodybuilding section.

I don’t care what you do I was just trying to help the original poster.
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I’m not trying to “call you out”, but you’ve made a point of being a dick in this thread and thrown around generic advice. I deadlift less than beans, so this isn’t me challenging you, but wondering what experience you have.

As far as shoulder rounding goes, I’ve tried both and I’m neutral on the issue. I don’t think it matters unless you’re having back trouble - not trying to make a big deal out of this, but you seem very offended.

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[quote]The other Rob wrote:

As far as shoulder rounding goes, I’ve tried both and I’m neutral on the issue. I don’t think it matters unless you’re having back trouble - not trying to make a big deal out of this, but you seem very offended.[/quote]

Nah, man the troll is right though. Don’t let your shoulders roll forward.

I’ve pulled my trap pretty bad which was annoying as hell.

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[quote]Ritter wrote:
Why do people who have hundreds of posts say they cannot even pull 405? I can pull 465 (with bad form) and do not feel comfortable giving people advice.[/quote]

I dont believe it one second with that pick of your back. Feel free to prove me wrong

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[quote]Htowner wrote:

Yeah being that Corpus Christi, Tx is probably the dregs of health and fitness in the US k.[/quote]

Is that a pseudo-name for a town in TX that refers to Christianity (because we all know people there are heavily into that) ?

Like if I say bumfuck, USA

if so then you are a funny guy —­lol

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

Is that a pseudo-name for a town in TX that refers to Christianity (because we all know people there are heavily into that) ?

Like if I say bumfuck, USA

if so then you are a funny guy —Ã?­lol[/quote]

Haha no. Its actually a city of over 300,000 people on the Southeastern coast of Texas…