'Hardcore'

Training
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
One question I do have is, why is it when discussions about being hardcore in the gym come up, some people respond as if the guys who consider themselves serious gym trainers ignore all of the other aspects of life?

If I see a hardworking student, do I need to point out the kids working in sweat shops at the age of 5 as if they really aren’t having such a hard time?

It just seems sort of “elitist” to act that way unless literally speaking to a room full of people who truly don’t do anything but lift weights and eat all day.[/quote]

funny you should mention that, I’ve actually found that the people I know that work hardest in the gym are the people who work hardest at their careers too. It’s like type A personalities push themselves in every area of their life.

I dunno, I could be wrong. Just something I’ve noticed.

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[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
One question I do have is, why is it when discussions about being hardcore in the gym come up, some people respond as if the guys who consider themselves serious gym trainers ignore all of the other aspects of life?

If I see a hardworking student, do I need to point out the kids working in sweat shops at the age of 5 as if they really aren’t having such a hard time?

It just seems sort of “elitist” to act that way unless literally speaking to a room full of people who truly don’t do anything but lift weights and eat all day.[/quote]

funny you should mention that, I’ve actually found that the people I know that work hardest in the gym are the people who work hardest at their careers too. It’s like type A personalities push themselves in every area of their life.

I dunno, I could be wrong. Just something I’ve noticed.[/quote]

Me too. The sort of person who is going to work all day and still hit the gym 5 days a week or more likely isn’t the type to sit on the couch and watch life go by…even if some people do exist who ONLY live to eat, shit and train.

It takes a hardcore personality to take care of all of those responsibilities and still work extremely hard in the gym also.

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:
^^^^hell yeah! im in northern cali, hit me up when you are here![/quote]
So are you near the Ginger Viking?

I tried to get some business with him, but alas we came to a standstill.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
One question I do have is, why is it when discussions about being hardcore in the gym come up, some people respond as if the guys who consider themselves serious gym trainers ignore all of the other aspects of life?

If I see a hardworking student, do I need to point out the kids working in sweat shops at the age of 5 as if they really aren’t having such a hard time?

It just seems sort of “elitist” to act that way unless literally speaking to a room full of people who truly don’t do anything but lift weights and eat all day.[/quote]

funny you should mention that, I’ve actually found that the people I know that work hardest in the gym are the people who work hardest at their careers too. It’s like type A personalities push themselves in every area of their life.

I dunno, I could be wrong. Just something I’ve noticed.[/quote]

live to eat, shit and train.

[/quote]

Wasnt that a Julia Roberts movie?

You still hit the gym after work?

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
One question I do have is, why is it when discussions about being hardcore in the gym come up, some people respond as if the guys who consider themselves serious gym trainers ignore all of the other aspects of life?

If I see a hardworking student, do I need to point out the kids working in sweat shops at the age of 5 as if they really aren’t having such a hard time?

It just seems sort of “elitist” to act that way unless literally speaking to a room full of people who truly don’t do anything but lift weights and eat all day.[/quote]

funny you should mention that, I’ve actually found that the people I know that work hardest in the gym are the people who work hardest at their careers too. It’s like type A personalities push themselves in every area of their life.

I dunno, I could be wrong. Just something I’ve noticed.[/quote]

live to eat, shit and train.

[/quote]

Wasnt that a Julia Roberts movie?

You still hit the gym after work?[/quote]

LOL!

Dude, one day, I plan to not do anything but eat, shit, have sex and lift weights.

I will then die with a huge fucking smile on my face…after doing some community service.

I hit the gym mornings lately.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
One question I do have is, why is it when discussions about being hardcore in the gym come up, some people respond as if the guys who consider themselves serious gym trainers ignore all of the other aspects of life?

If I see a hardworking student, do I need to point out the kids working in sweat shops at the age of 5 as if they really aren’t having such a hard time?

It just seems sort of “elitist” to act that way unless literally speaking to a room full of people who truly don’t do anything but lift weights and eat all day.[/quote]

funny you should mention that, I’ve actually found that the people I know that work hardest in the gym are the people who work hardest at their careers too. It’s like type A personalities push themselves in every area of their life.

I dunno, I could be wrong. Just something I’ve noticed.[/quote]

Me too. The sort of person who is going to work all day and still hit the gym 5 days a week or more likely isn’t the type to sit on the couch and watch life go by…even if some people do exist who ONLY live to eat, shit and train.

It takes a hardcore personality to take care of all of those responsibilities and still work extremely hard in the gym also.[/quote]
agreed, it’s pretty cool seeing guys in this thread who are posting how they were able to stay committed even while taking care of kids, multiple jobs, and/or schoolwork. I think when I have a family, a home gym will become a necessity.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
One question I do have is, why is it when discussions about being hardcore in the gym come up, some people respond as if the guys who consider themselves serious gym trainers ignore all of the other aspects of life?

If I see a hardworking student, do I need to point out the kids working in sweat shops at the age of 5 as if they really aren’t having such a hard time?

It just seems sort of “elitist” to act that way unless literally speaking to a room full of people who truly don’t do anything but lift weights and eat all day.[/quote]

funny you should mention that, I’ve actually found that the people I know that work hardest in the gym are the people who work hardest at their careers too. It’s like type A personalities push themselves in every area of their life.

I dunno, I could be wrong. Just something I’ve noticed.[/quote]

live to eat, shit and train.

[/quote]

Wasnt that a Julia Roberts movie?

You still hit the gym after work?[/quote]

LOL!

Dude, one day, I plan to not do anything but eat, shit, have sex and lift weights.

I will then die with a huge fucking smile on my face…after doing some community service.

I hit the gym mornings lately.[/quote]
I figured you were mornings, its hard to work in any medical setting all day then lift (IMO).

I have worked about every medical setting and just could never do it after work.

Even when I worked nights in the ER, I would get up in the afternoon to hit the gym before work.

Right now I am managing 6 job sites from Beaumont to Arizona with about 35+ staff members, including PA’s and NP’s. Still happily married. Still have fun with our friends and hit the gym 5 days a week.

Plus I just beat Tomb Raider and it was fucking awesome.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I figured you were mornings, its hard to work in any medical setting all day then lift (IMO).

I have worked about every medical setting and just could never do it after work.

Even when I worked nights in the ER, I would get up in the afternoon to hit the gym before work.

Right now I am managing 6 job sites from Beaumont to Arizona with about 35+ staff members, including PA’s and NP’s. Still happily married. Still have fun with our friends and hit the gym 5 days a week.

Plus I just beat Tomb Raider and it was fucking awesome.

[/quote]

Man, when I was training twice a day, that was all I was doing. I made it work, but yeah, anyone who does what we do is going to have a hard time…one of the reasons what I do even comes up at all.

I know how few really built people I saw in school. It takes real commitment to keep that up and make major progress while literally giving your heart and soul to a career for health care.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I figured you were mornings, its hard to work in any medical setting all day then lift (IMO).

I have worked about every medical setting and just could never do it after work.

Even when I worked nights in the ER, I would get up in the afternoon to hit the gym before work.

Right now I am managing 6 job sites from Beaumont to Arizona with about 35+ staff members, including PA’s and NP’s. Still happily married. Still have fun with our friends and hit the gym 5 days a week.

Plus I just beat Tomb Raider and it was fucking awesome.

[/quote]

Man, when I was training twice a day, that was all I was doing. I made it work, but yeah, anyone who does what we do is going to have a hard time…one of the reasons what I do even comes up at all.

I know how few really built people I saw in school. It takes real commitment to keep that up and make major progress while literally giving your heart and soul to a career for health care.[/quote]
I mostly slept 4 hours a day, when I was working 60+ and going to school full time. Which was from age 20-34, I look back and have no clue how the fuck I did that. I still lifted, but no way could I keep up a “hard core” schedule during that time. Just not enough hours in the day.

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I think “hardcore” is just having a passion for lifting. I rarely miss a day because I hate to. I always train before work and even when I’m spent, the zen-like mood afterwards is a worthwhile trade.

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Hardcore is going on patrol and then coming back to your firebase and lifting weights.

for us to talk about hardcore…just seems a little weak.

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Hard core.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I figured you were mornings, its hard to work in any medical setting all day then lift (IMO).

I have worked about every medical setting and just could never do it after work.

Even when I worked nights in the ER, I would get up in the afternoon to hit the gym before work.

Right now I am managing 6 job sites from Beaumont to Arizona with about 35+ staff members, including PA’s and NP’s. Still happily married. Still have fun with our friends and hit the gym 5 days a week.

Plus I just beat Tomb Raider and it was fucking awesome.

[/quote]

Man, when I was training twice a day, that was all I was doing. I made it work, but yeah, anyone who does what we do is going to have a hard time…one of the reasons what I do even comes up at all.

I know how few really built people I saw in school. It takes real commitment to keep that up and make major progress while literally giving your heart and soul to a career for health care.[/quote]
I mostly slept 4 hours a day, when I was working 60+ and going to school full time. Which was from age 20-34, I look back and have no clue how the fuck I did that. I still lifted, but no way could I keep up a “hard core” schedule during that time. Just not enough hours in the day.[/quote]

thats nothing. I sleep 2 hours a day, work a 100 hour week, go to school full time plus do extra tuition after that. from the age of 12 to present day. i lift in a desert nation WHILST insurgents are shooting at me.

AND I’ve still never shat my pants

now that, my friends, is hardcore

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[quote]bluebrasil wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I figured you were mornings, its hard to work in any medical setting all day then lift (IMO).

I have worked about every medical setting and just could never do it after work.

Even when I worked nights in the ER, I would get up in the afternoon to hit the gym before work.

Right now I am managing 6 job sites from Beaumont to Arizona with about 35+ staff members, including PA’s and NP’s. Still happily married. Still have fun with our friends and hit the gym 5 days a week.

Plus I just beat Tomb Raider and it was fucking awesome.

[/quote]

Man, when I was training twice a day, that was all I was doing. I made it work, but yeah, anyone who does what we do is going to have a hard time…one of the reasons what I do even comes up at all.

I know how few really built people I saw in school. It takes real commitment to keep that up and make major progress while literally giving your heart and soul to a career for health care.[/quote]
I mostly slept 4 hours a day, when I was working 60+ and going to school full time. Which was from age 20-34, I look back and have no clue how the fuck I did that. I still lifted, but no way could I keep up a “hard core” schedule during that time. Just not enough hours in the day.[/quote]

thats nothing. I sleep 2 hours a day, work a 100 hour week, go to school full time plus do extra tuition after that. from the age of 12 to present day. i lift in a desert nation WHILST insurgents are shooting at me.

AND I’ve still never shat my pants

now that, my friends, is hardcore
[/quote]

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bluebrasil wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I figured you were mornings, its hard to work in any medical setting all day then lift (IMO).

I have worked about every medical setting and just could never do it after work.

Even when I worked nights in the ER, I would get up in the afternoon to hit the gym before work.

Right now I am managing 6 job sites from Beaumont to Arizona with about 35+ staff members, including PA’s and NP’s. Still happily married. Still have fun with our friends and hit the gym 5 days a week.

Plus I just beat Tomb Raider and it was fucking awesome.

[/quote]

Man, when I was training twice a day, that was all I was doing. I made it work, but yeah, anyone who does what we do is going to have a hard time…one of the reasons what I do even comes up at all.

I know how few really built people I saw in school. It takes real commitment to keep that up and make major progress while literally giving your heart and soul to a career for health care.[/quote]
I mostly slept 4 hours a day, when I was working 60+ and going to school full time. Which was from age 20-34, I look back and have no clue how the fuck I did that. I still lifted, but no way could I keep up a “hard core” schedule during that time. Just not enough hours in the day.[/quote]

thats nothing. I sleep 2 hours a day, work a 100 hour week, go to school full time plus do extra tuition after that. from the age of 12 to present day. i lift in a desert nation WHILST insurgents are shooting at me.

AND I’ve still never shat my pants

now that, my friends, is hardcore
[/quote]
[/quote]

my comment were a joke. you know, like in the Monty Python sketch?

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[quote]bluebrasil wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bluebrasil wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I figured you were mornings, its hard to work in any medical setting all day then lift (IMO).

I have worked about every medical setting and just could never do it after work.

Even when I worked nights in the ER, I would get up in the afternoon to hit the gym before work.

Right now I am managing 6 job sites from Beaumont to Arizona with about 35+ staff members, including PA’s and NP’s. Still happily married. Still have fun with our friends and hit the gym 5 days a week.

Plus I just beat Tomb Raider and it was fucking awesome.

[/quote]

Man, when I was training twice a day, that was all I was doing. I made it work, but yeah, anyone who does what we do is going to have a hard time…one of the reasons what I do even comes up at all.

I know how few really built people I saw in school. It takes real commitment to keep that up and make major progress while literally giving your heart and soul to a career for health care.[/quote]
I mostly slept 4 hours a day, when I was working 60+ and going to school full time. Which was from age 20-34, I look back and have no clue how the fuck I did that. I still lifted, but no way could I keep up a “hard core” schedule during that time. Just not enough hours in the day.[/quote]

thats nothing. I sleep 2 hours a day, work a 100 hour week, go to school full time plus do extra tuition after that. from the age of 12 to present day. i lift in a desert nation WHILST insurgents are shooting at me.

AND I’ve still never shat my pants

now that, my friends, is hardcore
[/quote]
[/quote]

my comment were a joke. you know, like in the Monty Python sketch?[/quote]
I know, and mine was also

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Competing while having a life and a full time job is hardcore.

Haha… but really

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bluebrasil wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bluebrasil wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I figured you were mornings, its hard to work in any medical setting all day then lift (IMO).

I have worked about every medical setting and just could never do it after work.

Even when I worked nights in the ER, I would get up in the afternoon to hit the gym before work.

Right now I am managing 6 job sites from Beaumont to Arizona with about 35+ staff members, including PA’s and NP’s. Still happily married. Still have fun with our friends and hit the gym 5 days a week.

Plus I just beat Tomb Raider and it was fucking awesome.

[/quote]

Man, when I was training twice a day, that was all I was doing. I made it work, but yeah, anyone who does what we do is going to have a hard time…one of the reasons what I do even comes up at all.

I know how few really built people I saw in school. It takes real commitment to keep that up and make major progress while literally giving your heart and soul to a career for health care.[/quote]
I mostly slept 4 hours a day, when I was working 60+ and going to school full time. Which was from age 20-34, I look back and have no clue how the fuck I did that. I still lifted, but no way could I keep up a “hard core” schedule during that time. Just not enough hours in the day.[/quote]

thats nothing. I sleep 2 hours a day, work a 100 hour week, go to school full time plus do extra tuition after that. from the age of 12 to present day. i lift in a desert nation WHILST insurgents are shooting at me.

AND I’ve still never shat my pants

now that, my friends, is hardcore
[/quote]
[/quote]

my comment were a joke. you know, like in the Monty Python sketch?[/quote]
I know, and mine was also [/quote]

my mistake, it went right by me

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[quote]bluebrasil wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bluebrasil wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]bluebrasil wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

I figured you were mornings, its hard to work in any medical setting all day then lift (IMO).

I have worked about every medical setting and just could never do it after work.

Even when I worked nights in the ER, I would get up in the afternoon to hit the gym before work.

Right now I am managing 6 job sites from Beaumont to Arizona with about 35+ staff members, including PA’s and NP’s. Still happily married. Still have fun with our friends and hit the gym 5 days a week.

Plus I just beat Tomb Raider and it was fucking awesome.

[/quote]

Man, when I was training twice a day, that was all I was doing. I made it work, but yeah, anyone who does what we do is going to have a hard time…one of the reasons what I do even comes up at all.

I know how few really built people I saw in school. It takes real commitment to keep that up and make major progress while literally giving your heart and soul to a career for health care.[/quote]
I mostly slept 4 hours a day, when I was working 60+ and going to school full time. Which was from age 20-34, I look back and have no clue how the fuck I did that. I still lifted, but no way could I keep up a “hard core” schedule during that time. Just not enough hours in the day.[/quote]

thats nothing. I sleep 2 hours a day, work a 100 hour week, go to school full time plus do extra tuition after that. from the age of 12 to present day. i lift in a desert nation WHILST insurgents are shooting at me.

AND I’ve still never shat my pants

now that, my friends, is hardcore
[/quote]
[/quote]

my comment were a joke. you know, like in the Monty Python sketch?[/quote]
I know, and mine was also [/quote]

my mistake, it went right by me
[/quote]

Its cool my Scottish friend, my humor is normally morbid and weird.

I blame 14 years of working in an emergency room.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Meh,

I think we are taking the term “hardcore” out of context with the above. I believe all who are mature understand that lifting weights in whatever capacity is extremely low on the totem poll with regards to the truly hardcore ventures out there whether it be in a profession or a worldly pursuit.

I think this is dealing with Hardcore within the limits of the gym and what you do perform better therein[/quote]

Good post. I am sure some of us even do community service. I know I do. This isn’t about acting like all other priorities or life goals come after the gym That isn’t what I consider success anyway…and I doubt anything in what I have written ever has ever given that impression.[/quote]

You are the who extended this attitude beyond the hardcore lifter by talking about clueless housewives and fat accountants on exercise bikes and by often times expressing your disdain for average gym goers (if I interpret your writing correctly) or people who just don’t care about serious lifting and how you want to come off to complete strangers.

I didn’t say anyone here doesn’t know there is more to life than lifting, including you.

Had you said you go to or visit hardcore gyms sometimes–say a gym like Metroflex, Bev’s Powerhouse (the East Coast Mecca), Venice Gold’s, or a key club like Westside Barbell–and really try to push things, I wouldn’t have commented the way I did.