[quote]vroom wrote:
Now…since you don’t care that I’m trying to be nice and concerned about your state of mind etc, fuck ya then.
You don’t think I’m going to buy this line of bullshit do you? The concerned about my state of mind concept?
Please.[/quote]
why is that so hard for you to believe?
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Joe Weider wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
What did it mean, oh Great One…?
Balls.
Good solid T-pumping balls.
Not golf balls (sorry Veg) not whiffle balls, not even baseballs…maybe footballs and medicine balls…but it meant balls.
That does not include discussions of men wearing make-up, unless you’re talking about Gene Simmons. Who’s a pretty solid T-Dude.
It certainly didn’t mean people like you, Liftus, coming here and jumping all over a Vet like RJ, calling him punk and shit.
Are you his boyfriend? He can’t defend himself? Thanx for asnwering my rhetorical question. What does Vet status have to do with anything? People like you ascribing this mythic status upon punks–there I said it again–like yourself and him give this site a bad name.
As I said before–you have you own definitiuon of “Hardcore”–mine doesn’t include bullying punks who have no balls.
If you were a true hardcore vet you’d help the weaker and smaller of the species not rip them to shreds for not being like you. But seeing as how you tend to post on the other threads it doesn’t suprise me.[/quote]
Dude, sometimes I do try to help. WTF are you carrying on about?
Big difference between what goes on down in the political room and the rest of the place.
Oddly enough, Lifty, I’d defend vroom or ProfessorX against you unfairly attacking them.
And since when is it the job of the stronger to help the weaker of the species?
I have to do this about every other month. Tell me if you see a common theme in any of these old banners -
btw LIFTIE - Is punk your word of the day? I hope it makes you feel really strong when you say it.
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All I’m asking is that instead flaming someone, first try to persuade them to our way of thinking. Not everyone of has the same goal. If someone comes on and says “I don’t want to get huge.”, then you know what maybe that’s a good opportunity to introduce them to PL, OL or maybe some Dino training (not saying that PL or even OL can’t be great for gaining weight). Weight training of any kind can be addictive for people who aren’t affraid of work. Eventually they will realize there is nothing wrong with gaining muscle.
Take for example a girl my OL coach used to train. This girl started training just before her 16th birthday and even though I was 18, I must say that she was pretty hot. She would come in wearing the spandex shorts that would show the cheeks of her butt. She was a volleyball player and her only interest was to get better a volleyball. She started out hating the weights fearing that she would get huge. Well my coach little by little brought her to our way thinking. He started out by telling her that squats would make her legs look good & pointed out one of the female OL’ers to give her and example. Then she got addicted to squats and it wasn’t but about three months after she started that I heard her scream “I DON’T CARE HOW BIG I HAVE TO GET, I’M GONNA SQUAT 225!”
You see this stuff is addictive. I suspect that many of these little “I don’t want to get huge.” boys say that because they’ve heard girls reference a Pro BB’er and say it is gross. I think that’s why most don’t want to get huge (some are just a bunch of metro sexual pansies).
If someone posts their pic and tells you their goals and asks for advice, then you have an opportunity to be of influence. Most of the guy don’t know any better. I didn’t know any better when I started either. I didn’t know what I wanted or how to get it. It wasn’t until I started reading this site that I learned what real training was all about. No one is going to stay around to learn the same lessons that I did if we are always trying to run them off.
As far as the 155’ers that post trying to brag, use your discretion. If open themselves up for constructive critisism the help their misguided-butts, or let loose on them if they need it.
Last one. Does anyone see a pattern yet?
Pick me!!!
Teacher…is the answer “BODYBUILDING”!!!
ding ding ding!! We have a winner.
[quote]Olympiclfter wrote:
All I’m asking is that instead flaming someone, first try to persuade them to our way of thinking. Not everyone of has the same goal. If someone comes on and says “I don’t want to get huge.”, then you know what maybe that’s a good opportunity to introduce them to PL, OL or maybe some Dino training (not saying that PL or even OL can’t be great for gaining weight). Weight training of any kind can be addictive for people who aren’t affraid of work. Eventually they will realize there is nothing wrong with gaining muscle.
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I hate to break this to you in the middle of such a feel good post…but the comments he received and thanked were the comments you are trying to get rid of. The comments that caused him to rethink his behavior are the ones you want to get rid of. Like I wrote before in another thread, I have been on this site and others for a long time. The one thing I can honestly say is that people remember a certain style more than others. You can make things as “touchy-feely” as you want to, but when it comes down to it, I am willing to be that SOME people will remember the posts that didn’t try to cater to a teddy bear approach but still provided the truth and an honest assessment over those that simply told them what they wanted to hear.
Bottom line, why are you complaining when the guy from the other thread isn’t? Isn’t his progress the focus? How did your feelings come into this then?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Pick me!!!
Teacher…is the answer “BODYBUILDING”!!!
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Well, now that you mention it…
A lot of these guys posting all this ‘get HYOOOOGE’ stuff aren’t big either. In fact, those that have posted their pics don’t look very good at all. They only wished they had a Men’s Health cover boy physique. It’s just attitude. And perhaps Rainjack’s recent dive into steroids, that causes this junk.
Vets should help newbs. Period. There’s a way to do it too without attacks and e-dick waving. Post some articles for them to read at least, something other than just trying to run them off. We all started somewhere.
A few of them deserve some attacks, but not many.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
What in the fuck does it matter what is in my avatar?
If that’s all you have - you need to go find a better argument. It’s as weak as you are.
And you are EXACTLY the type of person that could never understand “Dangerously Hardcore”. You are an angry, little boy, who seems to have found his bravery behind the safety of a computer screen.
Chill out - have a soy-latte, and think about why tyou are even fucking here, son.
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Straw man attack!!! You can’t argue with me so you attack me personally, good job!!! You get a check-plus on your crybabybitch-reportcard.
michael2507:
I wasn’t argueing with you man, I was trying to point something out. But take it however you want, I stand by my point.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Last one. Does anyone see a pattern yet? [/quote]
Yes, you have no life.
Just because rainjack collects those images doesn’t limit the site to bodybuilding. That was their motto, but if you look through the articles, there’s clearly information for athletes and powerlifts. I just noticed another pattern; alot of you need to get out of the house more! I leave to go workout and an hour and a half later this thing is 3 pages long. Let’s all just calm down…
…I was wondering who was going to be first to toss out the gear grenade.
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
Straw man attack!!! You can’t argue with me so you attack me personally, good job!!! You get a check-plus on your crybabybitch-reportcard.[/quote]
Griff, this is me trying to be nice:
It’s not a straw man attack if YOU change the subject and he responds to it.
Technically, you’re guilty of the straw man, actually.
I know what you’re trying to say, I just think you’re arguing the wrong point with the wrong people.
What you’re dealing with here is a bunch of people who don’t like change and don’t want to change, and don’t even really see why they should change–caught up in a place they love that’s changing before our eyes.
It stings some.