Gym Numbers of MMA Fighters

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[quote]PGJ wrote:
otoko wrote:
Jeremy Horn has fought so many great fighters over the years. Not just in the UFC. In Japan also.
He is a better fit at 185 pounds.

He’s an awesome fighter. Tough as nails. But he looks like he works in a coffee shop in San Frnacisco. I bet he doesn’t even lift.
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Listen bud…just get off this fucking forum if you have it in for lifting.

You’re not the first or the last “martial artist” who tries to bash muscle power.

The truth is that while some fighters don’t weight train, most do, and while Jeremy Horn is tough as nails, he isn’t top 10, while a lot of top 10 fighters do lift weights.

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[quote]Classy_Cojones wrote:
PGJ wrote:
otoko wrote:
Jeremy Horn has fought so many great fighters over the years. Not just in the UFC. In Japan also.
He is a better fit at 185 pounds.

He’s an awesome fighter. Tough as nails. But he looks like he works in a coffee shop in San Frnacisco. I bet he doesn’t even lift.

Listen bud…just get off this fucking forum if you have it in for lifting.

You’re not the first or the last “martial artist” who tries to bash muscle power.

The truth is that while some fighters don’t weight train, most do, and while Jeremy Horn is tough as nails, he isn’t top 10, while a lot of top 10 fighters do lift weights. [/quote]

wow, that was a little uncalled for. and i would be willing to disagree with you that “most” fighters lift, i think the majority dont.

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1.I’d love to see Jeff Monson in the weight room.

  1. A lot of people criticize Rich Franklin’s routine as seen on Spike but remember this is what he does very close to a fight. It’s for muscular endurance. I assume he does other things in his training at that time for explosiveness and is not at that time trying to add pure strength.

  2. I agree with Chad Waterbury that the deadlift is the most important lift for MMA. If I was training a young mma figher looking to increase strength I would say work on getting stronger on the deadlift plus a push and a pull–the push press and weighted chins would be great but, of course, there are many others.

  3. I would imagine Matt Hughes can deadlift 550-600 pounds or more, or could if he took a little time away from fight training and concentrated on it. But I don’t think that’s what he would want to do at this point.

  4. I think busy mma fighters with jobs etc. can get stronger doing one brief lifting session midweek, a heavy one on Saturdays, and then taking Sunday off.

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[quote]Classy_Cojones wrote:

Listen bud…just get off this fucking forum if you have it in for lifting.

You’re not the first or the last “martial artist” who tries to bash muscle power.

The truth is that while some fighters don’t weight train, most do, and while Jeremy Horn is tough as nails, he isn’t top 10, while a lot of top 10 fighters do lift weights. [/quote]

He was insulting Horn for not lifting, jackass. You showed how little you know with your Bob Sapp rant earlier, so I suggest you go watch some MMA and get back to us with some useful input when you know what you’re talking about.

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[quote]Axel wrote:
1.I’d love to see Jeff Monson in the weight room.

  1. A lot of people criticize Rich Franklin’s routine as seen on Spike but remember this is what he does very close to a fight. It’s for muscular endurance. I assume he does other things in his training at that time for explosiveness and is not at that time trying to add pure strength.

  2. I agree with Chad Waterbury that the deadlift is the most important lift for MMA. If I was training a young mma figher looking to increase strength I would say work on getting stronger on the deadlift plus a push and a pull–the push press and weighted chins would be great but, of course, there are many others.

  3. I would imagine Matt Hughes can deadlift 550-600 pounds or more, or could if he took a little time away from fight training and concentrated on it. But I don’t think that’s what he would want to do at this point.

  4. I think busy mma fighters with jobs etc. can get stronger doing one brief lifting session midweek, a heavy one on Saturdays, and then taking Sunday off.[/quote]

I bet Monson is a best. The guy is a solid block of muscle.

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[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Classy_Cojones wrote:

Listen bud…just get off this fucking forum if you have it in for lifting.

You’re not the first or the last “martial artist” who tries to bash muscle power.

The truth is that while some fighters don’t weight train, most do, and while Jeremy Horn is tough as nails, he isn’t top 10, while a lot of top 10 fighters do lift weights.

He was insulting Horn for not lifting, jackass. You showed how little you know with your Bob Sapp rant earlier, so I suggest you go watch some MMA and get back to us with some useful input when you know what you’re talking about.

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The only thing wrong with my Bob Sapp rant was my statement that he started out in K1.

The rest was spot on, unlike things such as “the K1 guys figured they could kick Sapp’s legs”. No shit…

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[quote]Zell959 wrote:

Small time fighter, yet one of the strongest.[/quote]

doesnt even break parallel

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I bet Monson is a best. The guy is a solid block of muscle.[/quote]

i think monson trains with the intocombat guys. check out www.intocombat.com. they do really sport-specific stuff in circuits, and you need alot of crazy equipment for most of them.

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[quote]Classy_Cojones wrote:
Listen bud…just get off this fucking forum if you have it in for lifting.

You’re not the first or the last “martial artist” who tries to bash muscle power.

The truth is that while some fighters don’t weight train, most do, and while Jeremy Horn is tough as nails, he isn’t top 10, while a lot of top 10 fighters do lift weights. [/quote]

Hey, stupid. I was actually complimenting Horn. He really impressed me. He lost, but he put up an awesome fight. Plus, he’s got a pretty good overall record. Not sure where your anger is coming from. By the way, I’m no martial artist. I wasn’t bashing anything. I was just stating that Horn doesn’t look like a typical muscular MMA fighter. But that hasn’t stopped him from racking up lots of victories.

Lighten up, cojones.

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Jeremy Horn is good. He has fought ALOT of great fighters. I don’t know if he lifts or not.
He has fought Nog, Couture, Arona, Liddell(2x), Frank Shamrock. MAny more. Yes he hs not beat many of them. He is tough though, many of the fights go to decision.

I think it is beneficial to lift. I don’t know how much guys lift. I just shared what I knew form first hand experience. It justs happens to be that the guys I saw were not very strong.

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Those guys probably train for explosiveness and duration…I mean just cause you can bench 400 doesn’t mean you can throw your opponenet off of you in round one, then again in round 3 … so my guess would be not many of them really train for all out strength.

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Ok so, back on topic:

I have seen Wandy throwing around at least 100 lber db’s for one-arm rows. Although, it might have been as much as 130. This is not in person, but in a vid I have seen. Others may have seen it.

Rhadi Ferguson, Olympic Judo competitor (somewhat related) was doing sets of 12-15 (something in there) with 405 on back squats.

Shamrock once could bench in the neighbourhood of 600 pounds and deadlift 550, so he claims. I think I read somewhere that Fujita was throwing up reps with either 405, 450 or 500 on inclines.

Bas Rutten’s mostly bodyweight circut sees him do 8 sets of like 25 pullups, pushups, dips, hyperextensions etc.

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[quote]t3h_Squirr3l wrote:
Ok so, back on topic:

I have seen Wandy throwing around at least 100 lber db’s for one-arm rows. Although, it might have been as much as 130. This is not in person, but in a vid I have seen. Others may have seen it.

Rhadi Ferguson, Olympic Judo competitor (somewhat related) was doing sets of 12-15 (something in there) with 405 on back squats.

Shamrock once could bench in the neighbourhood of 600 pounds and deadlift 550, so he claims. I think I read somewhere that Fujita was throwing up reps with either 405, 450 or 500 on inclines.

Bas Rutten’s mostly bodyweight circut sees him do 8 sets of like 25 pullups, pushups, dips, hyperextensions etc.[/quote]

I’ve seen that video of Wand also, I just couldn’t remember the exact numbers and didn’t post it for fear of being ripped apart for faulty numbers.

I have also seen videos of Belfort throwing up some pretty huge numbers as well.

And Shamrock is a douchebag.

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[quote]bigblue244 wrote:
t3h_Squirr3l wrote:
Ok so, back on topic:

I have seen Wandy throwing around at least 100 lber db’s for one-arm rows. Although, it might have been as much as 130. This is not in person, but in a vid I have seen. Others may have seen it.

Rhadi Ferguson, Olympic Judo competitor (somewhat related) was doing sets of 12-15 (something in there) with 405 on back squats.

Shamrock once could bench in the neighbourhood of 600 pounds and deadlift 550, so he claims. I think I read somewhere that Fujita was throwing up reps with either 405, 450 or 500 on inclines.

Bas Rutten’s mostly bodyweight circut sees him do 8 sets of like 25 pullups, pushups, dips, hyperextensions etc.

I’ve seen that video of Wand also, I just couldn’t remember the exact numbers and didn’t post it for fear of being ripped apart for faulty numbers.

I have also seen videos of Belfort throwing up some pretty huge numbers as well.

And Shamrock is a douchebag.[/quote]

Interesting. What can you remember about Belfort?

Even some guesstimates will do, don’t worry about being slightly off-topic in a topic that has 5 pages off.

I’ve always wondered about Belfort’s numbers.

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[quote]Classy_Cojones wrote:
bigblue244 wrote:
t3h_Squirr3l wrote:
Ok so, back on topic:

I have seen Wandy throwing around at least 100 lber db’s for one-arm rows. Although, it might have been as much as 130. This is not in person, but in a vid I have seen. Others may have seen it.

Rhadi Ferguson, Olympic Judo competitor (somewhat related) was doing sets of 12-15 (something in there) with 405 on back squats.

Shamrock once could bench in the neighbourhood of 600 pounds and deadlift 550, so he claims. I think I read somewhere that Fujita was throwing up reps with either 405, 450 or 500 on inclines.

Bas Rutten’s mostly bodyweight circut sees him do 8 sets of like 25 pullups, pushups, dips, hyperextensions etc.

I’ve seen that video of Wand also, I just couldn’t remember the exact numbers and didn’t post it for fear of being ripped apart for faulty numbers.

I have also seen videos of Belfort throwing up some pretty huge numbers as well.

And Shamrock is a douchebag.

Interesting. What can you remember about Belfort?

Even some guesstimates will do, don’t worry about being slightly off-topic in a topic that has 5 pages off.

I’ve always wondered about Belfort’s numbers. [/quote]

Haha, good point. Well I saw a video of him a few years ago that included clips of him weight training. I honestly don’t remember that much in terms of poundage, but I remember being impressed.

I searched the internet for what seemed like an eternity and couldn’t find the video. I found one picture though, of him doing some curls, haha, but he looks beastly nonetheless.

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Also…and this is from Frank Shamrock, Ken has bench pressed 465 pounds, and that was as a heavyweight.

Don’t know anything about his deadlifts.

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[quote]t3h_Squirr3l wrote:
Ok so, back on topic:

Rhadi Ferguson, Olympic Judo competitor (somewhat related) was doing sets of 12-15 (something in there) with 405 on back squats.

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Rhadi’s squats. He’s also a BJJ BB and competitor.

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Rhadi’s squats were pretty impressive, although the depth on the last 2 of those 500 lb squats wasn’t quite paralell. Very impressive though, for someone whose focus is not on squatting.

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[quote]Res Judicata wrote:
t3h_Squirr3l wrote:
Ok so, back on topic:

Rhadi Ferguson, Olympic Judo competitor (somewhat related) was doing sets of 12-15 (something in there) with 405 on back squats.

Rhadi’s squats. He’s also a BJJ BB and competitor.

I particularly like the honkey in the background doing his medecine ball squats. THAT was impressive!

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I don’t get the controversy.
Strength is part of the formula that makes a good fighter. The Bob Sapp example is perfect because without strength, he wouldnt have lasted 30 seconds with Noguiera, LeBanner, etc. He has very little skill but makes up for it–to a certain degree–with pure strength. Everyone has room to improve and if one is lacking in the strength dept, then getting stronger will make you more competitive. And if someone is strength training and is already a great fighter (re: Matt Hughes), it doesn’t mean there isn’t room for improvement–to say otherwise is just silly.

Anyways, here are some cool pics of Wanderlei training:

http://www.tatame.com.br/i_publisher/files/3482875432005112213643_wand_agach.jpg

http://www.tatame.com.br/i_publisher/files/3482875432005112213643_Wand_elastico.jpg

http://www.tatame.com.br/i_publisher/files/3482875432005112213643_Wand_flex.jpg

http://www.tatame.com.br/i_publisher/files/3482875432005112213643_Wand_pegada.jpg