[quote]optheta wrote:
Gregron I just found out ur a wizard.[/quote]
Did you see my sleeve?
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Maybe I am late here but as the most fashionably accomplished poster on this site I have to give my unsolicited advice.
First you guys are all doing it wrong. Dressing yourself fullbody is a waste. Sure you maye end up with an outfit, but the only way to be dapper to the EXTREME is to do wardrobe splits. There is just no way you can give your shirt the proper attention if you are picking out your pants at the same time.
Before you take my words out of context understand that CLOTHING CATEGORY SPLITS are the way that the PRO stylists put together outfits. All of them. I know because the Nordstroms I go to have tons of them there and we are all besties.
The split that worked best for me is:
Shoes/Belt/Watch
Shirt/Socks/Pocket Square
Trousers
Jacket/accessories
Notice how Trousers get their own split. I also skipped Underwear in the split because you do underwear EVERYDAY.
Fact: There is no way you can do a fullbody outfit without neglecting your accessories. PERIOD.
No PRO puts together their outfit all at once. Find me a cover of GQ and I’ll show you an outfit put together peice by peice everytime.
Before this turns into every other thread about NATTY or NOT remember that just because someone used a stylelist doesnt mean you would look as good as them if you did so dont even bring it up. [/quote]
I would not bother listening to a stylist. most of these guys do not even have a degree in FASHION DESIGN. furthermore I have not seen a stylist that can fill out a size 50 mens suit so fuck their opinion irregardless.
I do agree about doing a fashion split I plan to step on the runway someday (I won’t say when) so I do what the most fashionable dressers do.
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
I do agree about doing a fashion split I plan to step on the runway someday (I won’t say when) so I do what the most fashionable dressers do.[/quote]
Yes but it’s not everyone’s goal to step on a runway. Why do some people seem to feel that only those who have are qualified to offer fashion advice to people who merely want to dress so snazzy that they have to turn sideways from all the attention they get when walking through a doorway and be the snazziest dude in the room.
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[quote]gregron wrote:
Ok back to serious time.
Yep, I am cotton free.
I wouldn’t say I am razor sharp at all but thanks 
I am here to tell you that you definitely won’t shrivel up into a shellsuit wearing Joe Pesci douche just by going cotton free: let me show you the way.
IMO, a lot of people don’t really know what cotton free is. They think it is some crazy clothing restriction when in reality it isn’t. The basic life essentials that you can’t have are: T-shirts, Shirts and Boxers… But don’t fret my young cotton free padawan, there are alternatives!
T-shirts: there are tons of options now for cotton free. I don’t wear cotton free T-shirts very often but the store accessible brand that I’ve found to be best is Udi’s. Not to be confused with Rudis. Not the same. I get FABULOUS hemp T-shirts from our local farmers market which is awesome. If you have one in your area or a hippy market I would check that out.
Shirts: this ones a bummer for some but there are tastey sweaters that you can substitute. Acrylic turtle-necks do the trick.
Boxers: this one was also a big time bummer. I enjoy wearing crisp boxers while watching football as much as the next guy so this one had me miffed. Guess what? Yep… There are alternatives. One that is carried in most grocery stores now is Red Bro. It’s made by Aunheiser (sp?) and isn’t bad. If you have a La Senza or Anne Summers in your area you can pick up ladies boxers too. They comes in a few styles, boy-shorts, French knickers, and one other one. It’s good. If you’re out and about and can’t help yourself you can always pick up a cotton-polyester thong. It is technically cotton free because the amount of cotton is well below the 200ppm guideline for CF classification. If you aren’t extremely sensitive to chafing you’ll be good to go.
For the most part my wardrobe consists of turtle necks, hemp t-shirts and vest for tops.
Trousers are polyester, velvet, and leather (no brainer here)
Warmth is provided by the trousers and synthetic fleece.
Let me know of you have any other questions.[/quote]
I fixed that one for you, man. Can we try to stay on topic?
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
I do agree about doing a fashion split I plan to step on the runway someday (I won’t say when) so I do what the most fashionable dressers do.[/quote]
Yes but it’s not everyone’s goal to step on a runway. Why do some people seem to feel that only those who have are qualified to offer fashion advice to people who merely want to dress so snazzy that they have to turn sideways from all the attention they get when walking through a doorway and be the snazziest dude in the room.
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Most here will never stand out in a crowd even though they read the latest from all the fashion gurus. Real talk. I have an education in FASHION DESIGN. Some of you act like I shouldn’t comment when few here are as educated as I am about the topic.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
I do agree about doing a fashion split I plan to step on the runway someday (I won’t say when) so I do what the most fashionable dressers do.[/quote]
Yes but it’s not everyone’s goal to step on a runway. Why do some people seem to feel that only those who have are qualified to offer fashion advice to people who merely want to dress so snazzy that they have to turn sideways from all the attention they get when walking through a doorway and be the snazziest dude in the room.
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Most here will never stand out in a crowd even though they read the latest from all the fashion gurus. Real talk. I have an education in FASHION DESIGN. Some of you act like I shouldn’t comment when few here are as educated as I am about the topic. [/quote]
I really dont want to get into this but as someone who actually has stepped on the runway and done multiple paid shoots not too mention writing a few columns on fashion I need to point out that a degree in Fashion Design doesnt mean that you are educated to be a personal stylist. It just means you took some basic classes on fabrics, stitching and clothing contruction. It is a bit of a reach, almost like saying going to Dental school is the same as getting your MD.
W
I. love. this. thread.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
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Most here will never stand out in a crowd even though they read the latest from all the fashion gurus. Real talk. I have an education in FASHION DESIGN. Some of you act like I shouldn’t comment when few here are as educated as I am about the topic. [/quote]
True, I do not hold a formal degree in fashion design, but with my MFA in Film Animation, I’d like to point out that the general foundation arts courses are exactly the same. I AM a designer, the kind who works with pencils and markers on a daily basis.
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[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
I do agree about doing a fashion split I plan to step on the runway someday (I won’t say when) so I do what the most fashionable dressers do.[/quote]
Yes but it’s not everyone’s goal to step on a runway. Why do some people seem to feel that only those who have are qualified to offer fashion advice to people who merely want to dress so snazzy that they have to turn sideways from all the attention they get when walking through a doorway and be the snazziest dude in the room.
S[/quote]
Best Post
Most here will never stand out in a crowd even though they read the latest from all the fashion gurus. Real talk. I have an education in FASHION DESIGN. Some of you act like I shouldn’t comment when few here are as educated as I am about the topic. [/quote]
I really dont want to get into this but as someone who actually has stepped on the runway and done multiple paid shoots not too mention writing a few columns on fashion I need to point out that a degree in Fashion Design doesnt mean that you are educated to be a personal stylist. It just means you took some basic classes on fabrics, stitching and clothing contruction. It is a bit of a reach, almost like saying going to Dental school is the same as getting your MD.
W [/quote]
??? Uh, I don’t think I said that at all. This is just more nonsense from the usual crowd who want to keep me from speaking the truth. Question: Who is more qualified to speak about this topic, someone who has “stepped on the runway” or someone who stands out everywhere he goes in public? Real talk.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
I do agree about doing a fashion split I plan to step on the runway someday (I won’t say when) so I do what the most fashionable dressers do.[/quote]
Yes but it’s not everyone’s goal to step on a runway. Why do some people seem to feel that only those who have are qualified to offer fashion advice to people who merely want to dress so snazzy that they have to turn sideways from all the attention they get when walking through a doorway and be the snazziest dude in the room.
S[/quote]
Best Post
Most here will never stand out in a crowd even though they read the latest from all the fashion gurus. Real talk. I have an education in FASHION DESIGN. Some of you act like I shouldn’t comment when few here are as educated as I am about the topic. [/quote]
I really dont want to get into this but as someone who actually has stepped on the runway and done multiple paid shoots not too mention writing a few columns on fashion I need to point out that a degree in Fashion Design doesnt mean that you are educated to be a personal stylist. It just means you took some basic classes on fabrics, stitching and clothing contruction. It is a bit of a reach, almost like saying going to Dental school is the same as getting your MD.
W [/quote]
??? Uh, I don’t think I said that at all. This is just more nonsense from the usual crowd who want to keep me from speaking the truth. Question: Who is more qualified to speak about this topic, someone who has “stepped on the runway” or someone who stands out everywhere he goes in public? Real talk.[/quote]
Wearing a neon pink jumpsuit will cause you to stand out as well, it doenst mean you are standing out for the right reason. Sorry but I am sick of you permatrenders advising fashion noobs with such nonsense. Seriously, would you really tell a guy who is dressing himself for the first time that he should disregard the rules of sartorial experts and just start wearing trendy things at all cost just to stand out? Not everyone’s goal is to have everybody look at them. Some people just want to have a nice wardrobe and be comfortable and confident in how they dress.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
I really dont want to get into this but as someone who actually has stepped on the runway and done multiple paid shoots not too mention writing a few columns on fashion I need to point out that a degree in Fashion Design doesnt mean that you are educated to be a personal stylist. It just means you took some basic classes on fabrics, stitching and clothing contruction. It is a bit of a reach, almost like saying going to Dental school is the same as getting your MD.
W [/quote]
ha
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
I do agree about doing a fashion split I plan to step on the runway someday (I won’t say when) so I do what the most fashionable dressers do.[/quote]
Yes but it’s not everyone’s goal to step on a runway. Why do some people seem to feel that only those who have are qualified to offer fashion advice to people who merely want to dress so snazzy that they have to turn sideways from all the attention they get when walking through a doorway and be the snazziest dude in the room.
S[/quote]
Best Post
Most here will never stand out in a crowd even though they read the latest from all the fashion gurus. Real talk. I have an education in FASHION DESIGN. Some of you act like I shouldn’t comment when few here are as educated as I am about the topic. [/quote]
I really dont want to get into this but as someone who actually has stepped on the runway and done multiple paid shoots not too mention writing a few columns on fashion I need to point out that a degree in Fashion Design doesnt mean that you are educated to be a personal stylist. It just means you took some basic classes on fabrics, stitching and clothing contruction. It is a bit of a reach, almost like saying going to Dental school is the same as getting your MD.
W [/quote]
??? Uh, I don’t think I said that at all. This is just more nonsense from the usual crowd who want to keep me from speaking the truth. Question: Who is more qualified to speak about this topic, someone who has “stepped on the runway” or someone who stands out everywhere he goes in public? Real talk.[/quote]
Wearing a neon pink jumpsuit will cause you to stand out as well, it doenst mean you are standing out for the right reason. Sorry but I am sick of you permatrenders advising fashion noobs with such nonsense. Seriously, would you really tell a guy who is dressing himself for the first time that he should disregard the rules of sartorial experts and just start wearing trendy things at all cost just to stand out? Not everyone’s goal is to have everybody look at them. Some people just want to have a nice wardrobe and be comfortable and confident in how they dress. [/quote]
??? WTF? This is F-Nation. We are talking about people who have extreme fashion goals. Don’t expect me to applaud the efforts of those who merely want to be “comfortable and confident.” Seems odd for a site dedicated to Building & Fueling High-Performance Fashion.
I’m getting a lot of PM’s from “jeans and a t shirt” noobs asking if they must mix and match color pallets and patters to get fashionable…
I don’t know what you MUST do.
I just know I don’t see many people who don’t do this or who didn’t do this to gain most of their PERSONAL FASHION SENSE.
And no, it is NOT just about how many outfits a day you wear and your man accessories.
I dress the way I do because it allows me to accent certain body parts the way they need to be hit.
My daily shoe selectioncan take an hour and a half. I also don’t see many people with better shoes who do “shop at Payless” primarily to gain most of that swag…
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
I do agree about doing a fashion split I plan to step on the runway someday (I won’t say when) so I do what the most fashionable dressers do.[/quote]
Yes but it’s not everyone’s goal to step on a runway. Why do some people seem to feel that only those who have are qualified to offer fashion advice to people who merely want to dress so snazzy that they have to turn sideways from all the attention they get when walking through a doorway and be the snazziest dude in the room.
S[/quote]
Best Post
Most here will never stand out in a crowd even though they read the latest from all the fashion gurus. Real talk. I have an education in FASHION DESIGN. Some of you act like I shouldn’t comment when few here are as educated as I am about the topic. [/quote]
I really dont want to get into this but as someone who actually has stepped on the runway and done multiple paid shoots not too mention writing a few columns on fashion I need to point out that a degree in Fashion Design doesnt mean that you are educated to be a personal stylist. It just means you took some basic classes on fabrics, stitching and clothing contruction. It is a bit of a reach, almost like saying going to Dental school is the same as getting your MD.
W [/quote]
??? Uh, I don’t think I said that at all. This is just more nonsense from the usual crowd who want to keep me from speaking the truth. Question: Who is more qualified to speak about this topic, someone who has “stepped on the runway” or someone who stands out everywhere he goes in public? Real talk.[/quote]
Wearing a neon pink jumpsuit will cause you to stand out as well, it doenst mean you are standing out for the right reason. Sorry but I am sick of you permatrenders advising fashion noobs with such nonsense. Seriously, would you really tell a guy who is dressing himself for the first time that he should disregard the rules of sartorial experts and just start wearing trendy things at all cost just to stand out? Not everyone’s goal is to have everybody look at them. Some people just want to have a nice wardrobe and be comfortable and confident in how they dress. [/quote]
??? WTF? This is F-Nation. We are talking about people who have extreme fashion goals. Don’t expect me to applaud the efforts of those who merely want to be “comfortable and confident.” Seems odd for a site dedicated to Building & Fueling High-Performance Fashion.[/quote]
This is what is wrong with fashion these days. The pros have taken it too far and pushed the envelope too much. Ill take the outfits of the golden era anyday over todays. Back then it was pure, it was about looking timeless and effortless where today it is now just some laughable freakshow. And dont give me any nonsense like you see guys dressed like Cary Grant and Steve Mcqueen all the time just because tailors are more widespread now.
My question is, why take advice from suit wearers?
My work is very casual and we are not supposed to wear suits (some people dabble with ties and still pretend to be casual, but that’s a whole different issue). Guys even wearing cheaper suits easily look better than the most coordinated casual employees. Yes, you still have to find a good fit when in a suit, but you can’t brush the issue under a rug and act like it doesn’t change how good someone can look.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
My question is, why take advice from suit wearers?
My work is very casual and we are not supposed to wear suits (some people dabble with ties and still pretend to be casual, but that’s a whole different issue). Guys even wearing cheaper suits easily look better than the most coordinated casual employees. Yes, you still have to find a good fit when in a suit, but you can’t brush the issue under a rug and act like it doesn’t change how good someone can look.[/quote]
Look, one thing that needs to be highlighted is that NO, you should not dress certain ways if your goal is all out fashion and basic style.
Style isn’t just about outfit changes while trying to incorporate as many pocket squares as possible. That is NOT what leads to them reaching their maximal potential as far as SWAG.
…and my take on this is, you have very limited time to utilize your bodys full potential (different pro’s and cons at different ages and experience levels).
Wasting time dressing in a way that leads to downplaying the importance of accentuating certain body parts is not how you should do it if your goal is OPTIMAL FASHION.
No one says it doesn’t result in a stylish look at all.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
My question is, why take advice from suit wearers?
My work is very casual and we are not supposed to wear suits (some people dabble with ties and still pretend to be casual, but that’s a whole different issue). Guys even wearing cheaper suits easily look better than the most coordinated casual employees. Yes, you still have to find a good fit when in a suit, but you can’t brush the issue under a rug and act like it doesn’t change how good someone can look.[/quote]
Look, one thing that needs to be highlighted is that NO, you should not dress certain ways if your goal is all out fashion and basic style.
Style isn’t just about outfit changes while trying to incorporate as many pocket squares as possible. That is NOT what leads to them reaching their maximal potential as far as SWAG.
…and my take on this is, you have very limited time to utilize your bodys full potential (different pro’s and cons at different ages and experience levels).
Wasting time dressing in a way that leads to downplaying the importance of accentuating certain body parts is not how you should do it if your goal is OPTIMAL FASHION.
No one says it doesn’t result in a stylish look at all.
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Lol I knew you would give me crap for “holding back peoples’ fashion”. It’s a simple question, that I know you’ll skirt around as always. Do you really think you can look as good as a suit wearer?
Yeah, you look good in your weekly mirror selfies, but that’s only a front angle, and doesn’t show how your blazer is loose in the back, and your pants are a completely different shade of black hahaha. You are truly delusional if you think separately purchased black pants and a black blazer can ever match. Inb4 you’re not done finding your perfect fit and material yet. Quit being so scared and just go to a tailor already. You permawindow shoppers are annoying.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Maybe I am late here but as the most fashionably accomplished poster on this site I have to give my unsolicited advice.
First you guys are all doing it wrong. Dressing yourself fullbody is a waste. Sure you maye end up with an outfit, but the only way to be dapper to the EXTREME is to do wardrobe splits. There is just no way you can give your shirt the proper attention if you are picking out your pants at the same time.
Before you take my words out of context understand that CLOTHING CATEGORY SPLITS are the way that the PRO stylists put together outfits. All of them. I know because the Nordstroms I go to have tons of them there and we are all besties.
The split that worked best for me is:
Shoes/Belt/Watch
Shirt/Socks/Pocket Square
Trousers
Jacket/accessories
Notice how Trousers get their own split. I also skipped Underwear in the split because you do underwear EVERYDAY.
Fact: There is no way you can do a fullbody outfit without neglecting your accessories. PERIOD.
No PRO puts together their outfit all at once. Find me a cover of GQ and I’ll show you an outfit put together peice by peice everytime.
Before this turns into every other thread about NATTY or NOT remember that just because someone used a stylelist doesnt mean you would look as good as them if you did so dont even bring it up. [/quote]
I know you mentioned this in another thread how you split your belt/watch/shoe day into 2 days - one for brown leather, one for black leather. How did you know when your fashion sense was developed enough for that? I’m still using a reversible belt and a neutral steel-banded Seiko with every outfit, so I think I’m still in the “focus on the # of outfits noob stage” you talked about. Thanks in advance
Ok real talk… You want a little history of the personal style evolution of gregron?
Well buckle up and hold onto your tits cause things are about to get real.
This is a young gregron. I wanted to he a cowboy. Hat, scarf, tight jeans… I had it all.
I grew out of that rather quickly. I thought “cowboys are out dated. You know what’s in? Fisherman! Long John Silver here I come.”
Fashion and function all roles into one. Oh it just happened to start drizzing? Someone drove by and ran through a big puddle? Not a problem for young me. Looking back I did look like a big banana.