Exactly man. Plus if i can do a heavy triple at a certan weight it gives me a decent estimate of what my max is anyway. That being said for me its really difficult to not just want to max out all the time but im sure thats for everybody lol.
Thanks!, well i had to learn the hard way that if i want something i have to do it myself. Training in the gym especially has taught me in all aspects of life that i have to work for what i want. E.g no gains if i dont put in the effort
Thankyou, i need to find my happy leg drive medium where its just the right amount so i have some experimenting to do.
Im already training the strict press and seeing slow consistent progress, so im keeping it in. Iv added push presses on Tuesday after close grip bench to work on that. In the past doing 2 shoulder movements a week built up my strength faster so il see how they go.
Deadlift day
Wore shorts that are too small so kinda got wedgied lol. Very interruptive to my session but oh well iv had em for a year so time to get rid ofthem.
Deadlift 110
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5 pr
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Cable row iso hold 30% more then your max row hold for 20 seconds then reduce qeight and do ten reps. Three sets of that.
Farmers walk superset with kettlebell swings for conditioning
Walk 10 metres with dumbell then do ten kettlebell swings. Rest 30 seconds. Repeated ten times
One arm tbar row 3Ć10
Ab wheel
For me, nope. But i am lower body dominant (is that a thing?) Explosively so. I have never strict pressed bodyweight but i have push pressed 105kg and behind the neck jerked 130kg
For sure, if you are exploding the weight up most the way with your leg drive than lowering the weight quickly, than there will be very little carry over except for maybe the triceps.
However if you are weak at the start of your press and that is limiting how much you can put over your head, a bit of leg drive may be just what you need to overload the shoulders and build some strength and mass through the rest of the ROM.
After my push pressing, I like to DB Arnold Press to give the lower ROM of the press some attention.
See, when I did the push-press I just followed the instruction of using leg drive to help get the bar up.
The problem was that I had no idea how to get the shoulders to take over the movement as the bar goes up.
In hindsight, I think the problem was that I was always trying to use weight that was far too heavy in relation to my strict press + I have shitty shoulder strength and development. Since my shoulders have absolutely no chance of even helping to finish the rep, I had no choice but to do my best imitation of a push jerk.
The trouble is that, from what I understand, the only real difference between a push press and a push jerk is that you dip to catch the bar with the push jerk. It doesnāt seem to really make sense to limit leg drive for the push-press when the entire point is to use leg drive and be explosive.
Itās stupid technical imo, and Iām sure Destrength can correct me.
In all honesty, if you were interested in strongman, I think you should just learn how to jerk in whichever style you like. If Alpha states in his youtube video that strongman comps donāt care how you get the bar overhead, then you should use the style that lets a young woman in the 58kg class get 120kg overheadā¦
Agree entirely
I agree with @MarkKO about spending more time in Melbourne, but I would say that cause I line there !!
Well I canāt vouch for the kangaroo Islands but the stretch between Cairns and Whitsunday is absolutely amazing. Townsville is worth a look at and the small island just off its coast āMagnetic Islandā is really nice and has its own roads and cafes.
Fraser Island from memory has really nice blue water and at the right time of year does whale watching boat rides. I havenāt been there since I was like 12 so I canāt recall much.
Gold Coast is nice if she is into that sort of thing. The Hinterland is just inland of the Goldie and is really scenic as well and a nice change of pace from checking out our coastline.
Sydney but it has its landmarks, if you can get through the crowds and congestion.
Melbourne is a really nice city and definitely worth a look. Iāve never been there but I know lots of Aussies that have gone there to live and never looked back.
Adelaide didnāt give me a huge impression but in its defence, I wasnāt sightseeing when I visited and Iām not a big fan of old churches for which the city is known for.
The Great Ocean Rd is between Melbourne and Adelaide and is absolutely incredible. Well worth the drive. I havenāt gone all the way across it but the small amount that I have been on was breathtaking in places.
Hope she enjoys her trip, Iām so jealous! Haha
Thanks magick. Il have a watch of alphas power jerk videos etc
Using the jerk on a log requires a LOT of skill. The log is further out in front of you and hard to balance due to the size of the handles. Some folks can pull it off, but they are the exception.
Makes sense, the people who did it with beautiful form were some top level former corssfitters or something . And heard some of the competitors say log is like a standing incline bench.
So far, push press has done nothing noteworthy for my strict press. The gap between the two kept increasing, so this block of training im trying to fix that as I believe the opposite to be true, in that a strict press carries over to all other pressing. After this block itāll probably go back to an assistance lift or a secondary lift (assuming I meet my goal that is)
Damn. How much can you strict press vs push press?
Iām not really sure, but itās less than 185. I can push press 225 though. I went from 185x1-3 to 185x6/225x1 with no noticeable difference in my strict pressing strength. (I weigh about 175 right now for perspective)
I think because push pressing is more technical, you get a lot of pounds from just getting more efficient at the movement, and not necessarily through improvement in raw strength.
Not at all for me. I can only echo what @TX_iron already said. For example I have done 80 kg for 14 reps with push presses and I think I could not strict press that at all, even though I would have to try.
I can continue to echo that sentiment. Focusing on my push press got my push press strong but my strict press dropped a little.
I think there is a lot of value in developing a strong strict press for strongman. Leg drive is greatā¦if you have fresh legs. The press is often the first event in a show, but not always, and some promoters are awesome at being evil and putting the press event RIGHT after a lower body intensive event so that your leg drive is gone. In that situation, if you canāt strict press the competition weight or close to it, youāre hosed.
Happened to me in a show where the first event was tire squat for reps and next was a press medley with circus dumbbell for reps at the end. Most competitors couldnāt even make it through 2 of 4 implements because their legs were shot. Iāve also seen press after truck pulls. I ended up taking first in my event that day because I could still strict press whatever was thrown at me.
Pretty much. A push press is just a pressed out power jerk that you didnāt dip under. (Push jerk is synonymous with power jerk, though it can also mean a power jerk that you donāt move your feet on)
For weightlifters it is used to develop leg drive power and a little upper body strength while handling weights that arenāt high enough to tear you up like they would if you had to split jerk it if you wanted to develop leg drive. Sometimes you donāt drive hard enough and you have that awkward rep that takes like 5-7 seconds at the top while your whole body is shaking, that is all tricep and upper back.
Push press develops my strict, but my strict isnāt weak off the chest, and it probably has more to do with the fact my body is so beat up everywhere that it has to develop everywhere.
Close grip bench day
60kg
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Flat dumbell press 5Ć10
Then weighted knee raises and left.
Hmm not going up at all, iv started thinking its because deadlifts are so taxing on the cns and iv noticed it too.
The week i reintroduced deads a little while back on the day after i got home from school and fell asleep straight away, it usually takes me ages to fall sleep. I also noticed im pretty spent and weak the day after deadlifts so maybe its best to re structure my training days.
Monday
Push press,Close grip bench , chest work
Conditioning
Tuesday
Front squat , some back work and legs.
Decline situps weighted and non weighted
Wednesday rest
Thursday overhead presses, upper chest and more delt work
Friday
Deadlift. Back work
Kb swings and farmers walks for conditioning, and ab wheel rollout
Then that gives me the weekend to recover etc.
Rep ranges and progression modell?