Let me get some cookies.
In the American south the “pick out your switch” thing is a pretty common punishment for kids.
I’ve never seen a man tell a woman to go get a switch.
But I did see it in an old Italian movie. Anthony Quinn was a traveling strongman and he bought this chick from her parents to be his assistant. He whacked her with a stick when she didn’t introduce him properly for his show.
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I’m not. If you make a claim and are asked for proof, and then fail to produce it, it’s you who are dodging.
Obviously, people who are unfit to be parents shouldn’t procreate however, those people are usually low IQ and/or garbage people so logic and common sense don’t apply.
Go into the inner cities or any low income, crime ridden area, and the majority of those single mothers are dumb as shit and completely unaware of the reality they exist in. What kind of men do you think they have access to? The ones who are on the path to prison or out of prison.
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The thing is, when a man commits an act of violence against a woman, some try to view that act as being part of some war between the sexes; a war between the oppressed and the oppressor. Even though men have been allowed by law to beat their wives, and in some parts of the world still are, I would argue that wife beating was, and is, more likely the act of a weak man, a man with emotional issues or a scumbag. Nero killed, or had women killed, but that had nothing to do with some oppression of women but was about him being a psycho.
Look at a man who beats women today; he is probably an all around dirtbag. He beats women because he’s a coward who preys on the weak. It has nothing to do with some sex based dynamic.
I would also argue that spousal abuse was never rampant and the norm. Sticking with the US, the Puritans banned family violence. And the US started creating laws regarding family violence in the 19th century. Going back to Ancient Rome, although a husband and father had control over his family, domestic violence was not seen as an expression of proper behavior for a man. And the Romans even began to create laws limiting a husband’s and father’s power over his family at one point.
Quinn’s character in La Strada is hardly portrayed as heroic. He’s a violent, angry and ultimately cowardly man. And his violence was not limited to women. He took advantage of a mentally disabled girl and in the end cries like a baby when he realizes his treatment of her ended her life because in spite of his abuse, her innate innocence and naivety made her love him and unable to hate him.
It is strange but to be clear I’m not in support of abortion. I’m just suggesting the vast majority of people on either side of the fence are not inherently bad, as the common rhetoric would suggest. I think abortion is an unrealized tragedy of the highest scope when you look at numbers.
I do believe the largely female led stance of controlling outcomes without say from 50/50 responsible parties while expecting responsibility should they choose the birth route is incredibly manipulative. And “my body, my choice” is a lie. They aren’t killing themselves.
Regarding women’s rights in general I’m all for equality in opportunity, with success to be earned via merit, and believe the equity line of conversation is horse shit.
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I don’t think all responsibility for everything should be put on men, but this is one area where I don’t personally think things should be equal. I don’t have an exact percentage, haha, but let’s say something more than half of this area should fall on men. I have higher standards for men. Not because women are incapable of something, but because I just think if men want to “lead”, which means different things to other people, they should willingly accept a larger burden of responsibility.
Once again, I don’t think we’re on the same page.
I posted primarily for the King and Warrior archetypes - specifically the shadow presentation of these two archetypes that seem to be represented prominently in this thread.
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Ok. But give them the power that is proportionate to the responsibility.
Good luck convincing women of that.
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As long as we allow shitty women to make babies with shitty men, there will be shitty outcomes.
How often is it a case of one responsible, well adjusted, stable adult making a child with a loser? It’s most often two losers hooking up.
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Yes, these are surely the most important. We need strong men who can lead and fight, now more than ever. Superficially, these archetypes seem to be realised in our soldiers and politicians when the opposite is the case.
In the spirit of this thread, obese people cannot make good leaders or fighters. They lost the fight within themselves. They cannot lead anybody when their sugar addiction has taken control of the body.
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Specifically, a warrior’s primary role is not to fight but to enforce order. Mature masculinity uses only what force is necessary to enforce order. Immature masculinity gets in stupid arguments on the internet, humble brags about wealth, and talks tough.
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Aren’t they on the endangered species list?
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Women have held the responsibility of selecting viable candidates for mating, for the entirety of human history.
They are the genetic filters.
You want men to own >50% of that burden now too?
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But don’t men also do this? Isn’t that why we’re attracted to a full figured woman with an ample bosom and good birthing hips (I’m just exaggerating here, I don’t typically describe women that way) instead of thin, sickly ones?
To hear most men talk, they feel pretty much the same. I’ve spent a lot of time around balding dudes with potbellies complaining about how so-and-so super model would be better looking if her knees weren’t so pointy or something. Some of them call their wives lard ass and fat ass. They’re not actually attracted to them.
Usually said land whales are accompanied by a male land whale. People’s partners are usually somewhat similar to them, so if one is unhealthy, the other probably is as well. I don’t see what’s so notable about this - fat women can’t snag Brad Pitt and fat men can’t snag Jennifer Anniston. So they get with each other.
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More often than not, it’s just one dominant man showing up or standing out as clearly superior. The man initiates and the woman then nods. Or not. Depending on society, the man still takes whatever it is he wants from her. Or some related males take care of the man’s needs.
Women liberally selecting from a huge group of punters is new. It doesn’t work so good, it seems.
What would you change to make him that?
Maybe in a one-way mirror experiment. Let the sexes interact and it changes.