Diet Help - Getting Sub-10% BF Diet

Hi TN Community,

I have an issue with my diet right now that I’d like to run by you because I’ve hit a plateau, it seems, and I am not losing anymore fat despite going hard in the gym.

Some Stats first:

  • Age: 38
  • Weight: ~185lbs
  • Height: 6’2

Workout:

  • HIIT exercises for 45 min per day (boxing workout)
  • No free weights, just body weight exercises
  • Supposed calorie burn of 300-500

Diet (based loosely on the “get shredded diet” on here:

  • Total of 6 scoops of Oatmeal per day (~500-600 cals)
  • 2 large chicken breasts per day (~500-600 cals)
  • 20ish almonds per day (~150-200 cals)
  • Hot sauce (0 cals)
  • Stevia (0 cals)
  • Diet Coke and Dr. Prepper (0 cals)

Problem:

  • My energy levels are fine and I get enough sleep but I am really not losing any fat, it seems, despite heavy training and dieting
  • There is a persistent small “fat tire” around my belly and hips that gets and stays bloated all day and it is really unsightly and feels “off”.

Goal:

  • Looking to get back into fighting shape (used to have an 8-pack and sparred regularly when I was in my mid-to-late 20s)
  • Not in a super rush (can take 2-3 months) but I would like to see progress and right now, I am not seeing any

Ask:

  • Can anybody chime in and help me out with some diet advice please to help me shed that “fat tire”?
  • I’m pretty sure my workouts are fine as I am getting fitter with each one (on week 2 already with the boxing classes), so I assume it’s all in the diet

Post a picture.

You are 6’2,185 lbs. eating 1400 calories max and have a fat tire?

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I know, right? My body is so weird …

Do you know why / how this diet and exercise plan may not be working?

Am I working out too little or eating the wrong things?

Or is my body in a state where it holds on to fat for dear life because I am dieting?

Pic I will do later (tomorrow am) to show the base level of what I wake up to every morning :confused:

how are you tracking progress?

what makes you say this?

we may have different ideas about what constitutes heavy training.

what was your starting point? when did you start?

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Straight up whats your current Bf%?
What is the % your shooting for?
Why are you shooting for it?

Would you rather be in good condition for boxing or look really lean? I recognize they likely trend together, but which matters more?

Are those almonds your only daily fat?

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Muscle is anabolic.

Try a period of 8 to 12 weeks of lifting weights and eating slightly above your maintenance calories with a heavy bias towards protein.

You can still do HIIT training as well.

If you want to feel more athletic, look to someone like Phil Daru for programs and exercise selection. He has an excellent video on YouTube about a 2 days per week condensed conjugate program for fighters, as well as many other great resources

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Cardio is excellent and you should definitely do it, but remember that fitter doesn’t always mean leaner. If you’re training to be a professional/amatuer boxer then ignore the below, but if you just want to have the appearance of one then:

Have you tried any low intensity steady state or just HIIT style?

The likelihood of being able to maintain a true high intensity for 45 minutes is pretty hard, and it ends up becoming a fatigue accumulation exercise.

Short sprints and short distance intervals like 400s and 800s are brutally anabolic. If you allow yourself sufficient rest to recover a workout like
5x400 max effort with 5 minute rest between efforts is hard to beat in terms of “high intensity”

Hill sprints are also amazing

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Get thee behind me, Satan.

But you’re right.

And to the OP, I’d cut out the diet sodas and see if that helps. I know the info on artificial sweeteners is conflicting, but try it and see if it helps.

Also is oatmeal your only carb source? No fruit or veg?

“Carbs should make up 10-15% of your intake. All of your carbohydrates on The Get Shredded Diet should come from fresh vegetable sources (preferably organic) like spinach, broccoli, green beans, asparagus, zucchini, cauliflower, different color peppers, carrots, tomatoes, etc. Again, right now you’ll need all the nutrition you can get in as few calories as possible. The veggies listed above fit the bill beautifully. Every day I’d like you to get at least one serving (1/2 cup) of each of the veggies listed above.” - JB

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What is a “scoop” of oatmeal?

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At 1500 calories and that much activity this is not the problem.

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Possibly, but it wouldn’t hurt to elimate a variable. Without pictures I have no idea if it’s subcutanious, visceral, or psychological.

Is this just a sample of your diet? Surely you have more variety than this. Where are the green vegetables? You need a varied diet to get all of your nutrients.

How long have been on this boring diet?
BTW, a 1/3 cup of dry oatmeal is 100 calories.

How often do you eat? Frequent meals without simple sugars help to keep your insulin from spiking. When your insulin spikes all the sugars that are in excess of that needed to replenish muscle glycogen is stored as fat.

Another thought is that your diet is too severe and has caused your body’s metabolism to slow. Hit a day or two a week of 150% the calories you now eat.

There are people who have a very difficult time getting lean.

But, in most all cases, those people never have been lean.

Clearly, you have been lean.

It makes no sense to me that at 38 years old, that you cannot get as lean as you were in your late 20’s. Something is wrong.

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I’d love a picture, because I’m wondering about body dysmorphia/eating disorder.

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Im with you on that. The math isn’t " mathing" based on the stats given.

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Here i a pic from this am - to get sub-10%, I likely have 2-3 months to go, I assume, but let me know what you guys think and how I could help progress along because I’ve been looking at this view for almost 2 weeks now with no change

TY!

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No offense but it doesn’t look like you train at all. In pic you look shinny fat.
Bodyweight exercise is not gonna cut it.

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Two weeks is nothing.

Why not try using weights to fill out the skin with muscle, rather than focusing on sucking yourself in?

Edit: or what he said ^^.

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That’s my point - I feel fine during the burnout workouts that I’m doing but I do not seem to be shedding any weight / fat …

I don’t want to bulk up (hence no free weights) - just want to lean out fully.

So you’re saying that I should add free weight exercises to my regimen on top of the 45-min. HIIT boxing training?

It is not just skin, though - I have a “fat tire”, which is what I want to get rid off via diet and HIIT boxing / body weight training - unfortunately, I’m obviously failing to see any progress in 2 weeks … :confused:

Was way easier in the past for me to shed weight - maybe I’m just too old now and my metabolism sucks?

Any intel re: diet or workout (or both) plan updates to get to goal here would be super.