The man clearly knows what he is doing considering the size he is. But I just wanted to say that if I do rows like that I cant even feel anything in my lats. I have to keep my back much more streched out and flat, and do them much slower.
I wonder if having exellent muscle coordination is allowing him to do the movement so fast and still hit his back muscles?
I am someone who mostly reads what is being said on the forums (Including original posts)and does not feel confident enough to comment;this time I decided to add my 2 cents. I use 170 pounders for DB rows and yes the grip is the weak link. I reach 12-14 reps max but I must use straps to reach that #.
I will say that “correct form” is a subjective matter and the way performed in this video is the “correct form”. Sorry Edders you loose.
[quote]DanErickson wrote:
But I just wanted to say that if I do rows like that I cant even feel anything in my lats. I have to keep my back much more streched out and flat, and do them much slower.
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Try doing 33 reps with 175 pounds with the form used in the video. You’ll find that your lats will be sore.
When you get to very heavy weights on one-arm rowing, you realize that it’s pretty hard to the core. There is no way you can use that much weight without a bit of body english, unless you have some crazy obliques/abs strength.
You also can’t have as much ROM. I think the scapula retractors just can’t get as strong as the lats/biceps. With heavier weight, the first 75% of the ROM is so much more easier than that last 25%. You’re seriously limiting yourself if you want to keep doing that 25%. You could add some very strict rowing on machine or with a barbell, focusing on that 25%, squeezing the back for a second or 2 at the end.
[quote]ChuckyT wrote:
Try doing 33 reps with 175 pounds with the form used in the video. You’ll find that your lats will be sore.
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^^LOL
Dude you’ll feel it in your little toe.
Shit that’s some humble pie right there.
My max is 105lb for 8 reps, and then 5 sets of those. With straps!
Guys dimishing the effort need a cluebat.
It’s like watching a guy rolling a tractor tyre and then saying “so? I roll the tyre from my Corolla with better form!”
Fucking comedians…
I saw this while looking at another video beside the first video. Extremely off topic but amazing.
[quote]Edders wrote:
Is the guy strong? Yes. But those are NOT dumbbell rows. His form sucked.
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His form doesn’t suck. There are many different ways to perform many different exercises for many different objectives.
If that’s good form, then I need to give a little on mine. I’ve been too strict and probably would do well to loosen up a bit. I’ve been doing sets with 100lbs db and strictly without too much problem. I could probably hit 120lb easily given some of that advice.
[quote]Edders wrote:
Is the guy strong? Yes. But those are NOT dumbbell rows. His form sucked.
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Trying picking up a 175lb dumb bell for one rep. Stfu.
I don’t think he’s trying to hit his lats, I think he’s working on his huge upper back, his 500 raw bench testifies to that.
[quote]naughtybox wrote:
Edders wrote:
Is the guy strong? Yes. But those are NOT dumbbell rows. His form sucked.
Trying picking up a 175lb dumb bell for one rep. Stfu.[/quote]
We all know at this stage Edders is pretty much a jealous, hating, troll.
I can’t believe that video, from a clearly experienced lifter, descended into a debate over form…
Did anybody notice how he pumped himself up? “Shit!..Fuck!!” lol that’s badass.
Is this the same guy that survived cancer?
[quote]wbfalcon79 wrote:
Is this the same guy that survived cancer?[/quote]
Yep
[quote]Dougal wrote:
I can’t believe that video, from a clearly experienced lifter, descended into a debate over form…[/quote]
I can totally believe it. I mean he’s seriously shortchanging himself lifting like that. If he did them properly he’d probably get stronger and wouldn’t suck.
Dude you do realise what site you logged onto right… this is T-Nation. We’re so hardcore we criticise EVREYONE. Even Kroc.
Ugh I’m really beginning to dislike this site.
Everybody take note- THIS is how you should train. Go hard. And study this form!
I watched Matt’s DB rows and I’m here to say that his set should have been redlighted by the duly appointed gym accessory lift judges at Matt’s gym. I don’t blame the lifters, but I do blame the judges for allowing the great sport of gym accessory lifting to be run into the ground. I mean- when I see a triceps pushdown, I want to see an upright torso, a good lockout, and correct hand positioning on the cable attachments.
Between the loose judging and all this bullshit cheat-gear like tapered Valeo cinch belts and wrist straps, gym accessory lifting just ain’t what it used to be. Christ, how do we expect accessory gym lifts to get into the Olympics?
[quote]Pinto wrote:
I watched Matt’s DB rows and I’m here to say that his set should have been redlighted by the duly appointed gym accessory lift judges at Matt’s gym. I don’t blame the lifters, but I do blame the judges for allowing the great sport of gym accessory lifting to be run into the ground.
I mean- when I see a triceps pushdown, I want to see an upright torso, a good lockout, and correct hand positioning on the cable attachments.
Between the loose judging and all this bullshit cheat-gear like tapered Valeo cinch belts and wrist straps, gym accessory lifting just ain’t what it used to be. Christ, how do we expect accessory gym lifts to get into the Olympics?[/quote]
Nice.
Anyway, I do two-armed DB Rows [both arms at once, bent over like a BB Row], and I can go up to 150s X 4. That video’s freaking amazing. Hats off to him.