[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I was skeptical but I have to admit, hazzyhazz is not a beginner. He still has a long way to go (who doesn’t though, right?) but he looks pretty good at 195 pounds.[/quote]
Fair enough. Good work on the progress, and I retract my diskish statements regarding it.
BUT
You still have your head up your ass about low reps, and you’re a dick for shitting on Jax without your own face public.[/quote]
alright the jax thing was a joke and I do apologize. But I don’t think I have my head up my ass about low reps. I just think more hypertrophy gains can be made with a higher rep range and better strength gains with a much lower rep range. This isn’t anything new. So maybe you should get your head out of your ass I’m done. This website has gone batshit crazy that people get called out for stating common fucking sense.[/quote]
The point is, all rep ranges are beneficial and can be used
You had used the term never, someone would be a total fool to throw a tool out of their toolbox for no real reason. If you notice I gave you a hard time with the use of the word never. I didn’t say only do low reps, i said don’t fucking tell people to NEVER do low reps.
You have a mind, open the fucking thing.[/quote]
Actually if you watch Ronnie’s vids he states that deadlifts are the only thing that he does low reps with on a regular basis, those strength feats you see on youtube were mostly to show the limits of Ronnie’s abilities.
Actually if you watch Ronnie’s vids he states that deadlifts are the only thing that he does low reps with on a regular basis, those strength feats you see on youtube were mostly to show the limits of Ronnie’s abilities.
That being said I personally agree with Hazz, [/quote]
As you get older, the less you will identify with the word never.
I mean, outside of shit like Meth and wrestling with bears, saying you or anyone else should never do something can be foolish. [/quote]
Well it’s not like your quads are going to fall off if you squat your 1rm instead of your 6rm, I just think it’s more conductive to growth if you use weights that you can control very efficiently on a regular basis.
That being said I’m very impressed by powerlifting in general, that sport takes alot of focus and drive just getting under the kind of weights they use would be pretty innerving.
Actually if you watch Ronnie’s vids he states that deadlifts are the only thing that he does low reps with on a regular basis, those strength feats you see on youtube were mostly to show the limits of Ronnie’s abilities.
Those are great dvds btw.[/quote]
You are proving my point.[/quote]
I don’t think so, since bodybuilders use the deadlift to overload the upper back and lats yet they aren’t primary muscles moving the weight it becomes more about the weight used and less about the tension on the primary movers (lower back hamstrings and quads). That’s my understanding anyways. That’s why rack pulls/ top half Dl’s are used for bbing purposes.
That being said I personally agree with Hazz, [/quote]
As you get older, the less you will identify with the word never.
I mean, outside of shit like Meth and wrestling with bears, saying you or anyone else should never do something can be foolish. [/quote]
Well it’s not like your quads are going to fall off if you squat your 1rm instead of your 6rm, I just think it’s more conductive to growth if you use weights that you can control very efficiently on a regular basis.
That being said I’m very impressed by powerlifting in general, that sport takes alot of focus and drive just getting under the kind of weights they use would be pretty innerving.[/quote]
Trav, I’m not arguing that any rep range is better than any other. I AM arguing that blindly telling someone NOT to use a certain rep range EVER is fucking stupid. People are individuals, and they need to find out what their body responds to.
That being said I personally agree with Hazz, [/quote]
As you get older, the less you will identify with the word never.
I mean, outside of shit like Meth and wrestling with bears, saying you or anyone else should never do something can be foolish. [/quote]
Well it’s not like your quads are going to fall off if you squat your 1rm instead of your 6rm, I just think it’s more conductive to growth if you use weights that you can control very efficiently on a regular basis.
That being said I’m very impressed by powerlifting in general, that sport takes alot of focus and drive just getting under the kind of weights they use would be pretty innerving.[/quote]
Trav, I’m not arguing that any rep range is better than any other. I AM arguing that blindly telling someone NOT to use a certain rep range EVER is fucking stupid. People are individuals, and they need to find out what their body responds to.[/quote]
That’s fine, I just think using weights that you can control and not just barely lever up is more productive for members of the bodybuilding forum and that focusing on 1-3 rms and ‘ego lifting’ shouldn’t be the focus if you want to gain mass while avoiding injury.
I’m also covertly trying to stop you from constantly using low reps isitworking? lol
I’m also covertly trying to stop you from constantly using low reps isitworking? lol[/quote]
I know, I fully expect us to have this back and forth for the next few years.
At least I know we can disagree and neither gets butthurt. lol
I don’t use only low reps. Most of my back work is 6-8 (T-bars are 8+ outside of my top set), all my shoulder work outside of OH pressing is 8-12, lol.
You guys just focus on my bench, which has pretty much always been low reps on my top sets.
[quote]Hazzyhazz24 wrote:
Dude, seriously Im not trying to be an asshole but that argument is not old like you said. Substantial hypertrophy gains are made in the 6-12 rep range. and their is a big difference in 3 sets x 6-12 reps vs 10 sets x 3 reps, hence why Pro bodybuilders do one and not the other. Im not trying to flame anyone here or call out any programs. I just stated that personally, I feel that the 3-6 rep range should not be used if the goal is pure hypertrophy which it should be since were in a bodybuilding forum. Im done arguing and this has gotten way out of hand. I fucking had to email Lanky my photos to prove I am not a newb just to say that a bodybuilder shouldn’t be doing triples. [/quote]
You emailed revealing photos of yourself to a guy whose avatar is Danny Tanner?? Who knows what Lank is going to do with them [shakes head].
Yes this argument is old, and I have heard it hundreds of times. Do you really think pro bodybuilders never go or have never gone below 6 reps or above 12? Powerlifters can transition into bodybuilding relatively easily. Actually back in the day, a lot of the best bodybuilders WERE powerlifters.
Nobody called you out for working out with reps from 6-12. You made a blanket statement assuming that everyone is exactly like you
I don’t get how people can see someone use loose form on one exercise and instantly tell whether it’s good or bad without knowing how the rest of his training looks. Maybe he uses very strict form on other exercises like HS low row or seated cable row? If you do a couple of exercises with strict form I really don’t see much of a problem with using somewhat loose form on one exercise, it might even benefit you. If his form is sloppy on everything there might be a problem though.
Also, loose doesn’t necessarily equal sloppy. If it’s intentional, if you know why you’re doing it and if every rep looks roughly the same, then it’s not sloppy, it’s simply loose.
isitworking? lol