I said it before, google the couch thread. Well over 1000 pages w/ 1,000,000+ views. Start from page one and read on. Sometimes it slow, but there is some interesting stuff in there.
—I looked at it. Its cute. Weird guys.
It may appear Crossfit has their shit together at a corporate level, but they are too young of an organization to really know what they are doing. Only thing they have, is a big new corporate sponsorship.
—The people involved have had businesses and or run companys before. Glassman has stated and Ive seen it, which is crazy, that everyone who approaches this with an MBA or related knowledge fails. If you look at PL gyms its the same way. Corporate gyms, like one I worked for, have their heads so far up their ass its astonishing. To the point that any money made is almost made on accident and or off the abilites of others. I like Tates qoute :“A students work for B students work for C students.” Yeah some of the main coaches, including those on this site, read business books and postive thought books but as far as classes and degrees, most of the best trainers dont have em, they have training knowledge.----
The Crossfit drama is huge, and I find it entertaining but don’t really give a shit either way. I would like to see more ‘good’ Crossfit gyms everywhere, as it presents a viable business opportunity to people make a good living off these group conditioning classes. It also opens the door for well, equipped more serious facilities, where former couch potatoes start getting exposed to and potentially competing in strongman, powerlifting, and oly lifting.
----Its sad and enteraining in a Lohan kind of way. I dont wish bad on some of the people involved, despite ego or elite-ism. My box I run different than the norm and because of this we only search out and associate with boxes with similar mindsets. Ill talk to some owners and their like “we dont program our own stuff, we just follow the main site.” I usually end the relationship there, Im not in the business of changing peoples mind. I coach moms of 3 oly lifts and power lifts. Our clients want to go heavy anyone who doesnt, doesnt stick around long. I took my business philosophies from Mark Twight. It makes a difference—
Either way, Couch got a divorce and I’m sure his wife got half the company. If you look at Crossfit mainsite, Lauren is posting the daily WODs who is his ex-wife and it hasn’t always been that way. Supposedly, the disheveled guy whose pic I posted earlier has had his dick in some very nice pieces of ass, all due to his leader status of the crossfit cult.
----It has always been that way. There have probably been problems for a while. He lived in Santa Cruz and travelled all over while she lived in AZ. Shes always run the main site. She is actually run a large part of the operation. If you actually met them they are super, super nice people. I just dont agree with all they preach. Ive had my own really bad experiences with conversing with him.—
The qualifers for regionals were done online in a submit a video format. The submission system was screwed up for a long time, and now people are already bitching about unfair judging at regionals. There is no qualifty control for crossfit certifications, so you end up with people who go to a crossfit level 1, then end up coaching a room full of people when they are most likely unqualified to even coach themselves. Theres also a big hullaboo that judges at regionals had no qualifications whatsoever, not even a level 1 cert.
—I competed in these. 2nd year for me. It was a fukcing joke for me. I disliked all 6 weeks and how they did it. The judging was way off. I wouldnt be surprised about regionals, Ive heard some horror stories. Ive also been a judge several times, Ive been cussed out, miscounted, let shit slide and be an asshole. They are claiming the the judging is now too strict (from what ive heard). There is quality control in some ways, we test now, but it still has loop holes. A lot of places who do certs dont have quality control. I hear tons of people complain about getting lost at a Poliquin cert. And those people go home with the abiliy to just crush you hormonally in so many ways. Its the same mostly everywhere. Ive met (and most will complain on here) of Dr’s who dont know a fucking thing. Stupid people are stupid people, we need them to look good. I didnt hear about noncerted people judging - I cant believe that.—
A big exodus occurred awhile ago, where I bunch of big name coaches/gym owners in the crossfit community, either quit crossfit or were kicked out for slanderous talk of crossfit HQ. A lot of the crossfit claims, i.e. 600lb+ deadlifts produced from metcons are unsubtantiated, on tops of numerous and common devastating injuries. There are numerous people who end up with Rhabdo, spend a week in the hospital, think they are awesome for it, then end up back in the hospital a month later with the same condition. On top of ripped and bloody callouses, SLAP tears, busted shins from high rep box jumps, and general malaise from starving themselves on a shitty, eating disorder related zone diet.
—Im glad the left. They work better without being under that umbrella and they are allowed to speak their minds so the info is way different. I hear dudes on this site claim all kinds of crazy shit - impossible shit - its everywhere. Devasting injuries is usually an overexaggeration by most. Ive never seen it or heard from it. Our worst injury was a dude who CNS was done for the day and decided to try a highbox jump and scrapped his knee, to the bone. No one with Rhabdo, no one pulling disks, no broken bones. All the gyms I associate with have never reported it either. I just got done teaching a highschool track team who 85% of the team had busted shins - and they dont box jump. Ive torn my hands twice in 4 years. Dont know why its more frequent in others. Ripp taught me how to hold a bar, maybe thats the difference. Never heard anyone starve themselves either. Zone works, in theory, but just like slim fast or WW, people swear by it.—
The criticisms are huge, coming mostly from qualified and good crossfit affiliate owners and gyms. Not to mention, any and all lawsuits directed towards crossfit gym owners go to the gym owners with no help at all from crossfit HQ, except for their shame at a collective RRG? or something group, where everybody pays in 10k.
—Its not HQ’s fault - its directly the trainer on hand at that moment. RRG was/is a joke.—
Also, there are some franchise considerations, where Crossfit has a trademark on the crossfit name and collect dues from affiliate owners. As of now, you need to pay crossfit to call yourself a crossfit gym, however this may be making some franchise laws but nobody has had the balls to sue HQ yet.
—this is done for quality control. HQ can remove you from the list and sue you for using their program. Some people try to run their own boxes in a park or another gym and when someone, like an actual box or HQ finds out they threaten with a suit. I love it and have been apart of it. It helps to weed out dipshits.—
Its still a young organization compared to Powerlifting who has been around forever, so we will see what happens. [/quote]
