CrossFit Training

Hi Coach Thibaudeau. When you coach CrossFit Athletes, what are you focusing on…Olympic Lifts, met conditioning,other? What do these athletes ask you to help them with mostly? Thanks for your time.

[quote]bradmacmillan wrote:
Hi Coach Thibaudeau. When you coach CrossFit Athletes, what are you focusing on…Olympic Lifts, met conditioning,other? What do these athletes ask you to help them with mostly? Thanks for your time. [/quote]

It started out mostly for the olympic lifts but it is now more total planning. I might have something on that topic comming up soon.

Thanks for the quick reply. I just got my CrossFit Trainer level 1 cert in Montreal in May, and my gym now is an Affiliate. I would be very,very interested in your planning and training. Looking forward to reading it. Thanks -----Brad

Really looking forward to this!

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
Really looking forward to this![/quote]

I actually love Crossfit training for one reason… I have always seen myself as a “physique/performance problem solver”. Which is why I am interested in every single training type, method and equipment. I want to understand all the things one can do to improve the body so that if there is ever a “physique/performance” problem that I need to solve that requires a specific training tool/method I will know about it and how to use it to solve the issue.

Nothing requires more problem solving than Crossfit. You need so many different things that you are always trying to “fix something”.

Hi Christian, I noticed a while back you did a coaching/training clinic in Quebec, would you consider coming to NB? If so what would be the best way to contact you. Thanks for your time.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
Really looking forward to this![/quote]

I actually love Crossfit training for one reason… I have always seen myself as a “physique/performance problem solver”. Which is why I am interested in every single training type, method and equipment. I want to understand all the things one can do to improve the body so that if there is ever a “physique/performance” problem that I need to solve that requires a specific training tool/method I will know about it and how to use it to solve the issue.

Nothing requires more problem solving than Crossfit. You need so many different things that you are always trying to “fix something”.[/quote]

I am not a crossfit competitor, but the sport itself intrigues me. We have a similar local competition to see who is the fittest person at our gym. I have not competed in it yet, but want to. That is why I am interested to see how you would train a crossfit athlete. Obviously there are problems in the randomness of the WOD, and I honestly beleive that A CT trained crossfiter could destroy any other crossfiter with similar athletic abbilities.

Yeah CF is intriguing to be sure. I was a competitor in the 60+ Div but fell just outside the Top 20, so wasn’t at the Games. I went
to the Games yesterday to watch and was impressed by LaRouche but didn’t see Bazinet up in the women’s top 15…I do not like gyrating pull-ups or repetition snatches; other than that though, I think the CF sport offers a lot of benefits. I did notice that CF is trying to become more well-rounded - there are long distance runs and rows and also there was a full on sprint yesterday (Zig-Zag run). So they are improving their reach to various athletic pursuits.

Lastly though, in a competition, there is so much work to be done, that recovery methods (Plazma?) are key.

[quote]Scipio wrote:
Yeah CF is intriguing to be sure. I was a competitor in the 60+ Div but fell just outside the Top 20, so wasn’t at the Games. I went
to the Games yesterday to watch and was impressed by LaRouche but didn’t see Bazinet up in the women’s top 15…I do not like gyrating pull-ups or repetition snatches; other than that though, I think the CF sport offers a lot of benefits. I did notice that CF is trying to become more well-rounded - there are long distance runs and rows and also there was a full on sprint yesterday (Zig-Zag run). So they are improving their reach to various athletic pursuits.

Lastly though, in a competition, there is so much work to be done, that recovery methods (Plazma?) are key. [/quote]

Yesm I have been watching the games. There were quite a few beastly events! I was kinda surprised that the C&J ladder was won with only 355lbs, but after all the work they did so far that is understandable.

The thing with Crossfit is that depending on the even you might do great or not… Camille is great at pull-ups, muscle-ups and snatch and also good at the clean & jerk. She is not as good at running due to her background (gymnastics) and body type and she tend not to do as good on the pure endurance events, she is more about speed, power and skill. Which explains why it was hard for her in the first four events. She is still the most marketable girl in the sport though.

I train a girl with a similar background (former gymnast) and she has the exact same strength and weaknesses ironically. She finished 4th at the Canada East regional behind Camille, Michele and another girl I don’t know. She is also very good at the snatch (180), pull-ups, muscle ups and decent at the clean & jerk (210) but running and rowing are a different story.

PLAZMA is indeed a big help during the multi-days event. At the Canada East regionals I had 5 girls competing in the individual competition and all used PLAZMA.

Just for fun my wife and I did a 24 hours Crossfit marathon (1 workout every hour, teams of 4, 6 workouts each) and PLAZMA was a lifesaver.

Camille is awesome, she was one of the CF trainers at the CF1 course I attended last May in Montreal. It was really impressive to watch her workout in person. @CT, Camille is indeed built for power,power and skill as opposed to endurance stuff. She is Powerfully built to say the least.

Hey Christian, long time no see!

Ironically, despite my lack of love for it, I was asked and have been coaching lifting technique and strength work at a local Crossfit gym. It got me thinking and I wanted to ask your opinion after seeing this post. With proper workout nutrition, i.e. Plazma, and obviously a little more programming, do you think a guy who actually knows how to lift and is relatively strong could be successful with Crossfit and not just wither away? I had the crazy idea of trying it but also using Plazma to recover.

[quote]BigIron77 wrote:
Hey Christian, long time no see!

Ironically, despite my lack of love for it, I was asked and have been coaching lifting technique and strength work at a local Crossfit gym. It got me thinking and I wanted to ask your opinion after seeing this post. With proper workout nutrition, i.e. Plazma, and obviously a little more programming, do you think a guy who actually knows how to lift and is relatively strong could be successful with Crossfit and not just wither away? I had the crazy idea of trying it but also using Plazma to recover.[/quote]

I actually do Crossfit with my wife twice a week. I wont say much as I might put it in an article, but my physique is actually better now then it has been in years. Futhermore if you look at the Crossfit games that were this past weekend you will not see “withered away guys”… The average guy is around 195 on 5’10" at a very low level of body fat. Now a ton of people on bodybuilding forums will be quick to point out that “they aren’t even 200lbs”… but trust me at 195 at the level of body fat they are, they would be 220-225 on 5’9" at “normal” gym body fat levels and suddenly would be called huge and jacked!

Furthermore out of the 40+ competitors only 3 or 4 didn’t clean and jerk over 300lbs in the competition with several being in the 335 - 355 zone… and don’t forget that they actually had another even prior to that one, and 4 in the 2 days prior so they were far from being in their optimal shape!

Last year I calculated the average lifting numbers for the guys who qualified for the games and I came up with:

235lbs snatch
335lbs clean & jerk
450lbs back squat
550lbs deadlift

That is the average, you have guys even stronger than that. They certainly didn’t wither away!

I personally coach a lot of Crossfit athletes and they have physiques that rank way above most of the type of athletes I have trained.

Awesome stuff CT. In my experience so far with CrossFit. The WOD’s(the met con’s mostly) are varied but the strength/muscle building parts are programmed well in most good CF boxes. At most CF boxes’ there is lots of heavy,heavy lifting and lots of met con work and imho that is a great recipe for a great physique.

But yeah, I wouldn’t do it without PLAZMA and MAG-10 pulsing

So if you did CrossFit training and added in the Plazma protocol that would be a good choice for physique performance and body composition. I am going to do the Paleo Diet for Athletes and use plazma for the loaded carb part of the diet plan. Thanks.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]BigIron77 wrote:
Hey Christian, long time no see!

Ironically, despite my lack of love for it, I was asked and have been coaching lifting technique and strength work at a local Crossfit gym. It got me thinking and I wanted to ask your opinion after seeing this post. With proper workout nutrition, i.e. Plazma, and obviously a little more programming, do you think a guy who actually knows how to lift and is relatively strong could be successful with Crossfit and not just wither away? I had the crazy idea of trying it but also using Plazma to recover.[/quote]

I actually do Crossfit with my wife twice a week. I wont say much as I might put it in an article, but my physique is actually better now then it has been in years. Futhermore if you look at the Crossfit games that were this past weekend you will not see “withered away guys”… The average guy is around 195 on 5’10" at a very low level of body fat. Now a ton of people on bodybuilding forums will be quick to point out that “they aren’t even 200lbs”… but trust me at 195 at the level of body fat they are, they would be 220-225 on 5’9" at “normal” gym body fat levels and suddenly would be called huge and jacked!

Furthermore out of the 40+ competitors only 3 or 4 didn’t clean and jerk over 300lbs in the competition with several being in the 335 - 355 zone… and don’t forget that they actually had another even prior to that one, and 4 in the 2 days prior so they were far from being in their optimal shape!

Last year I calculated the average lifting numbers for the guys who qualified for the games and I came up with:

235lbs snatch
335lbs clean & jerk
450lbs back squat
550lbs deadlift

That is the average, you have guys even stronger than that. They certainly didn’t wither away!

I personally coach a lot of Crossfit athletes and they have physiques that rank way above most of the type of athletes I have trained.[/quote]

Always keeping us on our toes CT! Just when I order Plazma and ready to pound layers you say stuff like your physique never looked better integrating Crossfit training and now I’m curious how you integrate that style :slight_smile:

[quote]-Sigil- wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]BigIron77 wrote:
Hey Christian, long time no see!

Ironically, despite my lack of love for it, I was asked and have been coaching lifting technique and strength work at a local Crossfit gym. It got me thinking and I wanted to ask your opinion after seeing this post. With proper workout nutrition, i.e. Plazma, and obviously a little more programming, do you think a guy who actually knows how to lift and is relatively strong could be successful with Crossfit and not just wither away? I had the crazy idea of trying it but also using Plazma to recover.[/quote]

I actually do Crossfit with my wife twice a week. I wont say much as I might put it in an article, but my physique is actually better now then it has been in years. Futhermore if you look at the Crossfit games that were this past weekend you will not see “withered away guys”… The average guy is around 195 on 5’10" at a very low level of body fat. Now a ton of people on bodybuilding forums will be quick to point out that “they aren’t even 200lbs”… but trust me at 195 at the level of body fat they are, they would be 220-225 on 5’9" at “normal” gym body fat levels and suddenly would be called huge and jacked!

Furthermore out of the 40+ competitors only 3 or 4 didn’t clean and jerk over 300lbs in the competition with several being in the 335 - 355 zone… and don’t forget that they actually had another even prior to that one, and 4 in the 2 days prior so they were far from being in their optimal shape!

Last year I calculated the average lifting numbers for the guys who qualified for the games and I came up with:

235lbs snatch
335lbs clean & jerk
450lbs back squat
550lbs deadlift

That is the average, you have guys even stronger than that. They certainly didn’t wither away!

I personally coach a lot of Crossfit athletes and they have physiques that rank way above most of the type of athletes I have trained.[/quote]

Always keeping us on our toes CT! Just when I order Plazma and ready to pound layers you say stuff like your physique never looked better integrating Crossfit training and now I’m curious how you integrate that style :slight_smile: [/quote]
Same here Sigil.

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]BigIron77 wrote:
Hey Christian, long time no see!

Ironically, despite my lack of love for it, I was asked and have been coaching lifting technique and strength work at a local Crossfit gym. It got me thinking and I wanted to ask your opinion after seeing this post. With proper workout nutrition, i.e. Plazma, and obviously a little more programming, do you think a guy who actually knows how to lift and is relatively strong could be successful with Crossfit and not just wither away? I had the crazy idea of trying it but also using Plazma to recover.[/quote]

I actually do Crossfit with my wife twice a week. I wont say much as I might put it in an article, but my physique is actually better now then it has been in years. Futhermore if you look at the Crossfit games that were this past weekend you will not see “withered away guys”… The average guy is around 195 on 5’10" at a very low level of body fat. Now a ton of people on bodybuilding forums will be quick to point out that “they aren’t even 200lbs”… but trust me at 195 at the level of body fat they are, they would be 220-225 on 5’9" at “normal” gym body fat levels and suddenly would be called huge and jacked!

Furthermore out of the 40+ competitors only 3 or 4 didn’t clean and jerk over 300lbs in the competition with several being in the 335 - 355 zone… and don’t forget that they actually had another even prior to that one, and 4 in the 2 days prior so they were far from being in their optimal shape!

Last year I calculated the average lifting numbers for the guys who qualified for the games and I came up with:

235lbs snatch
335lbs clean & jerk
450lbs back squat
550lbs deadlift

That is the average, you have guys even stronger than that. They certainly didn’t wither away!

I personally coach a lot of Crossfit athletes and they have physiques that rank way above most of the type of athletes I have trained.[/quote]

What’s a Crossfit workout look like for you?

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]BigIron77 wrote:
Hey Christian, long time no see!

Ironically, despite my lack of love for it, I was asked and have been coaching lifting technique and strength work at a local Crossfit gym. It got me thinking and I wanted to ask your opinion after seeing this post. With proper workout nutrition, i.e. Plazma, and obviously a little more programming, do you think a guy who actually knows how to lift and is relatively strong could be successful with Crossfit and not just wither away? I had the crazy idea of trying it but also using Plazma to recover.[/quote]

I actually do Crossfit with my wife twice a week. I wont say much as I might put it in an article, but my physique is actually better now then it has been in years. Futhermore if you look at the Crossfit games that were this past weekend you will not see “withered away guys”… The average guy is around 195 on 5’10" at a very low level of body fat. Now a ton of people on bodybuilding forums will be quick to point out that “they aren’t even 200lbs”… but trust me at 195 at the level of body fat they are, they would be 220-225 on 5’9" at “normal” gym body fat levels and suddenly would be called huge and jacked!

Furthermore out of the 40+ competitors only 3 or 4 didn’t clean and jerk over 300lbs in the competition with several being in the 335 - 355 zone… and don’t forget that they actually had another even prior to that one, and 4 in the 2 days prior so they were far from being in their optimal shape!

Last year I calculated the average lifting numbers for the guys who qualified for the games and I came up with:

235lbs snatch
335lbs clean & jerk
450lbs back squat
550lbs deadlift

That is the average, you have guys even stronger than that. They certainly didn’t wither away!

I personally coach a lot of Crossfit athletes and they have physiques that rank way above most of the type of athletes I have trained.[/quote]

CT doing Crossfit?! Say it ain’t so! Ha ha ha. Actually, that gets me thinking even more about how to incorporate it. Are you using it more as a conditioning tool in addition to your strength training?

That’s also good that you can train with your wife. I quote your “proximity theory” quite a bit!

[quote]BigIron77 wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]BigIron77 wrote:
Hey Christian, long time no see!

Ironically, despite my lack of love for it, I was asked and have been coaching lifting technique and strength work at a local Crossfit gym. It got me thinking and I wanted to ask your opinion after seeing this post. With proper workout nutrition, i.e. Plazma, and obviously a little more programming, do you think a guy who actually knows how to lift and is relatively strong could be successful with Crossfit and not just wither away? I had the crazy idea of trying it but also using Plazma to recover.[/quote]

I actually do Crossfit with my wife twice a week. I wont say much as I might put it in an article, but my physique is actually better now then it has been in years. Futhermore if you look at the Crossfit games that were this past weekend you will not see “withered away guys”… The average guy is around 195 on 5’10" at a very low level of body fat. Now a ton of people on bodybuilding forums will be quick to point out that “they aren’t even 200lbs”… but trust me at 195 at the level of body fat they are, they would be 220-225 on 5’9" at “normal” gym body fat levels and suddenly would be called huge and jacked!

Furthermore out of the 40+ competitors only 3 or 4 didn’t clean and jerk over 300lbs in the competition with several being in the 335 - 355 zone… and don’t forget that they actually had another even prior to that one, and 4 in the 2 days prior so they were far from being in their optimal shape!

Last year I calculated the average lifting numbers for the guys who qualified for the games and I came up with:

235lbs snatch
335lbs clean & jerk
450lbs back squat
550lbs deadlift

That is the average, you have guys even stronger than that. They certainly didn’t wither away!

I personally coach a lot of Crossfit athletes and they have physiques that rank way above most of the type of athletes I have trained.[/quote]

CT doing Crossfit?! Say it ain’t so! Ha ha ha. Actually, that gets me thinking even more about how to incorporate it. Are you using it more as a conditioning tool in addition to your strength training?

That’s also good that you can train with your wife. I quote your “proximity theory” quite a bit![/quote]

Again I do not want to give out too many info yet on how it has affected my training. But you know, since I do train a lot of crossfit athletes I felt bad (1) not understanding the exact demands of the sport (theory and practice are two different things) (2) about not being able to do what I ask of others (leaders lead from the front, not from the back)