[quote]elevationgain wrote:
I know exactly how you feel and what you mean.
That Harvey motherfucker on Celebrity Fit club always tells people to “get back in the firefight” and every time he does I just cringe.
I go to a skeet/trap/indoor range to shoot clays now and again, and when you walk through the front door there are a bunch of these guys talking about knowing a “boat guy” or “so and so ‘being with the teams.’”
Makes me want to barf. [/quote]
That and when someone refers to a buddy being an “operator”. Instant nausea.
I was at Wal-mart a few months back and some employee/jackass with pressed black cargos, bloused combat boots, a Marine Corps tattoo, and of course numerous facial piercings starts barking at another employee like a DI (full on “Your Running” DI bark) to come help me and a friend locate something. I usually give a Smeper Fi to fellow Marines but this guy just made me crindge. I really only have 2 questions about the dude.
[quote]TriGWU wrote:
3 rounds for time of:
50 Squats
7 Muscle-ups
135 pound Hang power cleans, 10 reps
Post time to comments.
With 95 pounds Annie 9:47, Eva 10:16, Nicole 12:51
Will he pay me $10,000 if I can do it with video proof?[/quote]
You would be the man to do it. The muscle ups and squats should be a breeze for you. My only worry with you, Tri, is the hang clean with 135, but I’m sure you could learn that.
An another note, I also got the impression that Glassman was a military or law enforcement wannabe. He’s got the fascist personality/mentality about him. The thing is, most people with a successful military career have a natural ability to be leaders and don’t need to be fascist. If you need to yell at your troops, it means they’re not listening to you.
Tri,I think you should take him on…Here is my opinion of Crossfit: the guy in the picture holding the shirt, “coach” or whatever his name is, looks and sounds like a wannabe, but there are those crossfit facilities that are run or started by ex-seals, or ex-military (seattle, MT.Ranier). On the other hand their whole “random method thing” dosen’t seem very smart, and I have given up trying to figure it out. However some of the workouts are pretty useful for PT.
And it seems as if the head dude “Coach” is really against everything we stand for. As leaders who are losing grips on the reigns often do, he challenged his competitor (TC) to a contest to prove once and forall who’s the better man, for $10,000.
GAINER
Are you serious?
He challenged me?
This is the first I’ve heard of it.
Yes. I went over there and couldn’t find the post where he challenged you. They may have deleted it. But he did in fact challenge you to do the following workout faster than the 3 chicks who did it (using only 95 lbs. for the clean). Basically you need to beat 9:47 and he will pay you $10,000.
TC, since you’re slow-twitch dominant (or so you’ve said), this should not be too hard. The squats are bodyweight. You may have a problem with the muscle ups but if you can crank out pull ups and dips you can learn the muscle up.
3 rounds for time of:
50 Squats
7 Muscle-ups
135 pound Hang power cleans, 10 reps
Post time to comments.
With 95 pounds Annie 9:47, Eva 10:16, Nicole 12:51
Will he pay me $10,000 if I can do it with video proof?[/quote]
TRIGWU i bet you $10,000 u couldn’t even finish that workout.
[quote]TriGWU wrote:
Does Coach understand that in any due time the body will adapt to do a given repeated event better, be that with more weight, faster time, better recover, etc?
Hey Coach, I’ll challenge you out on my course. $10,000 if you can beat me at Ironman Lake Placid. But you wouldn’t take that, coward. [/quote]
Seriously, if you’re a real man “coach” you’ll test me in my event…I can jerk off three times in less than twenty minutes to lesbian porn, post your video as evidence you fraud.
[quote]TriGWU wrote:
Show me a check and I’ll get you video proof. I want to know you’ve got the money before I take time out of my training to do this bullshit.
The only thing I would have a problem with is the clean. But thats because I have never trained to clean.
The rest of the stuff? Joke.
Can we make them pistol squats instead?
And while we’re at it… what is coach’s time. Obviously if his was better than the women he would’ve posted it.
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If this were a serious bet (is it?) I’m sure we could find you some decent or excellent coaching for the clean. Hell, I’d fly out to DC and show you. Just don’t follow “Coach’s” advice. I’ve seen his descriptions and “philosophical” comments on the Olympic lifts. The man knows shit about the O lifts.
I’ve been a T-mag member for years, posting here for years, so of course I am on TC’s side in this…but isn’t it all a little childish?
Anyhow, the video is nice. Those women are impressive. Even if their coach is a dick.
Also, the T-mag guys can be assholes, too.
I remember one time I bought some MAG-10, and they only gave me one free bottle of M. What do you expect from “supplement salesmen”?
I guess when someone pisses me off I go after them with a vengeance. I was curious to see if there was anymore talk about the “challenge” over on the CF site and found this:
“Whether push-pressing or jerking, the dip and drive should keep the torso perpendicular to the ground. The explosive potential of the perpendicular torso is a recurring theme (study 060107 and 060120) and crucial to big cleans, snatches, jerks, push-press, vertical leap, and throw for height. None of these movements is the result of a hip thrust. Developing the push-press, then the push-jerk, and finally hang cleans and snatches without the chest coming forward at all provides essential training and practice for developing maximal explosive power.”
This is wrong. Cleans and snatches do rely on a powerful hip thrust (or hip snap as some like to call it) to get the bar up. Cleaning and snatching with a vertical torso will only use the quadriceps to impart force to the bar. Bending forward slightly activates the glutes and hams.
TriGWU is a triathlete who also trains with weights. A muscle-up is pretty damn simple for anyone that is not overweight. I am sure he can handle it.[/quote]
[quote]MikeTheBear wrote:
I guess when someone pisses me off I go after them with a vengeance. I was curious to see if there was anymore talk about the “challenge” over on the CF site and found this:
“Whether push-pressing or jerking, the dip and drive should keep the torso perpendicular to the ground. The explosive potential of the perpendicular torso is a recurring theme (study 060107 and 060120) and crucial to big cleans, snatches, jerks, push-press, vertical leap, and throw for height. None of these movements is the result of a hip thrust. Developing the push-press, then the push-jerk, and finally hang cleans and snatches without the chest coming forward at all provides essential training and practice for developing maximal explosive power.”
This is wrong. Cleans and snatches do rely on a powerful hip thrust (or hip snap as some like to call it) to get the bar up. Cleaning and snatching with a vertical torso will only use the quadriceps to impart force to the bar. Bending forward slightly activates the glutes and hams.
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you don’t lean forward during the dip and drive.
maximal explosive power is not generated by a hip thrust.
The hip is verticaly raised during the first pull followed by the horizontal (hip) travel of the scoop bringing the torso to “perpendicular” before the explosive vertical launch (jump) of the hip and bar during the second pull.
i’m sure thats correct,please let me know if i’m wrong
[quote]Spoken wrote:
TRIGWU i bet you $10,000 u couldn’t even finish that workout.[/quote]
he dude…
I’ll bet you $10,000 that neither you, any of those girls in the video, or “coach” could do one of my workouts…
all any of you have to do is match me pound for pound and rep for rep to earn the cash…if any of you fail then you owe me $10,000…
care to make a wager?
one of the things that I find hilarious about “coach’s” wager is that HE couldn’t do what those three girls in that video do…yet he calls T.C. a fraud …
You are correct that in the push press and jerk there is no hip thrust. The torso needs to remain vertical in these lifts or else the bar will be lost forward.
However, there is a hip thrust in the second pull. And the torso is not completely vertical. Look at the following pulling sequence that I pasted. In case in doesn’t load right, go to Mike Burgener’s site (Mike is a friend of CF) and find Ribakou on the photos page. Look closely at the third panel from the left.
Although it looks like the lifter’s torso is vertical, he leans slightly forward. This is enough. And if you practice the O lifts, you’ll find that as the weight gets heavy, you tend to lean less forward right before the second pull. Now look at the fourth panel. Notice how the lifter is actually pull back.
This is the result of an aggressive hip thrust. You do not get into this position by having a vertical torso and relying only on quad strength to “jump.” I can give you other sources that go over the hip thrust but I figured that a picture is worth a thousand words.
[quote]DPH wrote:
MikeTheBear wrote:
My only worry with you, Tri, is the hang clean with 135, but I’m sure you could learn that.
I watched the video…
the plate says 25 lbs on it…
so that’s only 95 lbs not 135 lbs…[/quote]
I knew that, but the actual workout requires using 135 on the clean. This presents and interesting question: was the bet for the “true” workout using 135 or simply going head to head with the girls and using 95? Most of us here can upright row 95. It’d be easy for Tri to learn to clean 95.
Try google. This exercise is deceptively challenging. It is traditionally done on rings but can also be done on a bar or almost anything else. I can do ~15 pull-ups and over 20 dips in a set and can not manage 1 muscle-up. You owe it to yourself to try it before you comment on the difficulty of it.
