[quote]You say sarcastically that you should have “proved you are tough” by beating him up but I must ask, why were you talking to him?
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well…if you MUST ask! i was talking to him because he was talking to me and i wasn’t particularly pissed off. a lot of people think that i - and a lot of o-lifters - look lighter than they are. he took it a bit further and he was annoying but…i was not injured and was kind of amused by the guy, irrespecive of my being the real moron in all this.
there’s no arguement here. so you’d ignore him when he spoke to you and freak out if he touched you, immediately trying to shove a barbell in his ass, of all places. i didn’t.
i never said he grabbed my package.
i found him non-threatening and was therefore amused. he was foolish. nothing more. you’d ignore him from the outset and go for the rectum if need be. two different styles is all.
He tickled you in the bathing-suit-place and you didn’t get his phone number?
[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
You say sarcastically that you should have “proved you are tough” by beating him up but I must ask, why were you talking to him?
well…if you MUST ask! i was talking to him because he was talking to me and i wasn’t particularly pissed off. a lot of people think that i - and a lot of o-lifters - look lighter than they are. he took it a bit further and he was annoying but…i was not injured and was kind of amused by the guy, irrespecive of my being the real moron in all this.
there’s no arguement here. so you’d ignore him when he spoke to you and freak out if he touched you, immediately trying to shove a barbell in his ass, of all places. i didn’t.
i never said he grabbed my package.
i found him non-threatening and was therefore amused. he was foolish. nothing more. you’d ignore him from the outset and go for the rectum if need be. two different styles is all. [/quote]
One thing that’s strange about my gym is that there are a number of guys that are pretty muscular (considerably bigger than me), but they don’t put up big numbers on standard ‘gym’ exercises like bench press and arm curls. And, I NEVER see them deadlifting. Not sure how they got that big.
Its kind of sad. I’m probably the strongest guy in the weight room most days, and I only deadlift 385.
[quote]weightliftr wrote:
One thing that’s strange about my gym is that there are a number of guys that are pretty muscular (considerably bigger than me), but they don’t put up big numbers on standard ‘gym’ exercises like bench press and arm curls. And, I NEVER see them deadlifting. Not sure how they got that big.
Its kind of sad. I’m probably the strongest guy in the weight room most days, and I only deadlift 385.[/quote]
I had’nt been to a commercial gym for about 10-15 yrs when a new one opened near by.There was a guy about 6’1-2" pretty good size pacing back and forth grunting and growning beating his chest trying to psych hisself for a lift,he went to a bench that had 315 on it,i thought this dude was going to do about 15-20 reps the way he was acting.
He jumped on the bench and did one struggling rep and jumped up and strutted around like he really did something.all his cronies acted like it was something to.I thought damn thats terrible a guy that size that was juiced up could only get a rep.I had to laugh.
Try Pull-throughs Anyone!!!
You could be arrested for some kind of indecent behaviour!
hahaha . . . I’m always looked at like at some kind of pervert!
Now I make sure I do them in my smelly, hard core joint (although I still get some looks)
You should see the gyms here in Montreal as off late OMG!..all the guru PT’s and the fat clients they train ,with emphasis on poorly executed box jumps and hops,agility ladder training for fat housewives, revolutionary “circuit” training,Bosu ball training for 140 pound 16 year olds,and alot of single arm barbell cleans, snatches, rows, floor presses done Really badly and various other scary stuff all for 50 to 60 bucks an hour…shudder.
All squat and dead variations are DANGEROUS! or so i was told when i was pulling 585 in the gym one day and a guy came running over to me and scolded me and told me i was gonna kill myself.Also strength seems to be a 4 letter word cause heavy training is dangerous but standing on a dyna disc doing 1 arm barbell snatches with a 20 pound barbell while curling a dumbell with your opposite arm is great for your core…
i get scared every time i step foot in a gym these days,in the old days we trained heavy and stupid and now most people train just plain stupid,thank god for T-Nation.
I’m sure you all have more great stories.
I go to a fitness center,its what we have so I go. Has what you need but it does get a little frustrating.People seem to think benches and equipment are lawn furniture. I stepped out of the squat rack (maybe its an arm curl rack now,ive never seen anybody else squat here)and I swear out of 9 people in the place not one weight is moving in anger,or moving at all for that matter.
most of them are talking to each other or on the phone,some are just looking out in space and one of them(im not making this up)is reading a novel.
I am growing tired of saying excuse me and may I step in 20 times a workout. These people rest longer for a 40lb set on the peck deck than your average heavyweight powerlifter on max triples.The only good thing is you can somtimes get a bench when they rest on these giant rubber balls.
[quote]pparris wrote:
I just wish there were others who are more experienced than me that I could learn from. It’s hard to perfect those types of lifts from pictures and articles.[/quote]
[quote]weightliftr wrote:
One thing that’s strange about my gym is that there are a number of guys that are pretty muscular (considerably bigger than me), but they don’t put up big numbers on standard ‘gym’ exercises like bench press and arm curls. And, I NEVER see them deadlifting. Not sure how they got that big.
Its kind of sad. I’m probably the strongest guy in the weight room most days, and I only deadlift 385.[/quote]
The biggest mistake you can make, is trying to judge someone by what they are lifting during a workout RIGHT NOW.
I don’t deadlift. If someone told you it is necessary to get big, they lied to you. I simply don’t feel the need to state that often on this site. Lee Haney liked the T-bar row over the deadlift. So do I. Quit thinking in a box.
Also, my first two sets for biceps lately is just ten reps with only one 45lbs plate on the HS curl machine. I suppose if you saw me warming up, you would assume you were stronger than me. I injured my knee last week and only threw up 6 plates a side on the leg press…and that was painful. I am sure you would look at that one training session and think you were as strong or stronger than me.
Beginners should avoid making quick judgements of people who clearly carry much more muscle than they do. Instead, how about asking that guy what he actually did to get that big? Too much trouble?
[quote]ron33 wrote:
weightliftr wrote:
One thing that’s strange about my gym is that there are a number of guys that are pretty muscular (considerably bigger than me), but they don’t put up big numbers on standard ‘gym’ exercises like bench press and arm curls. And, I NEVER see them deadlifting. Not sure how they got that big.
Its kind of sad. I’m probably the strongest guy in the weight room most days, and I only deadlift 385.
I had’nt been to a commercial gym for about 10-15 yrs when a new one opened near by.There was a guy about 6’1-2" pretty good size pacing back and forth grunting and growning beating his chest trying to psych hisself for a lift,he went to a bench that had 315 on it,i thought this dude was going to do about 15-20 reps the way he was acting.
He jumped on the bench and did one struggling rep and jumped up and strutted around like he really did something.all his cronies acted like it was something to.I thought damn thats terrible a guy that size that was juiced up could only get a rep.I had to laugh.[/quote]
Read above. How do you know that guy wasn’t injured previously? Anyone serious doesn’t strop training just because they feel pain. They just back off of the weight used. If he is truly that much bigger than you, why are you judging him so readily?
Why does this seem like the “newbie” thing to do?
I honestly never acted like this. I assumed that anyone bigger than me had knowledge that I needed. Some of you act as if you are more experienced than guys dwarfing you. That is just plain stupidity on your part.
I agree that deads aren’t necessary for being big, but they are good. I deadlift now and am glad that I have included it in my training, But I was bigger and squating more a few years ago and I wasn’t doing deads.
I do feel that they are a really important excercise and have really contributed to my overall strength, especially in my core and posterior chain. My squat is well on it’s way back up to the old strength at the same time.
*And yes, people in 24hr fitness look at me funny because I go up to 405 on squats.
im quite lucky, im one of the few guys who lifts big in my gym actually i the only one. So no one really approaches me to tell me how to lift. They do however ask me how much i can lift and why I am doing vitually any exercise i do.
However I did have one lady tell me she had to stop working out because i was scaring her. She was worried i was going drop a 130lb dumbell on my head when i was doing one hand snatches.
Apart from this there are just idiots who walk along side you or in front of you as your doing snatches or cleans or jumping good mornings. I dont know how many lifts i have pulled out of so I dont hit someone.
However if i want strange looks I go the length of my gym doing Jumping Good mornings with 180lbs on the bar followed by squat jumps from a kneeling postion.
[quote]Bullmoose wrote:
Beach Billy wrote:
but my all-time favorite is doing neck bridges in the corner with a 45-lb plate on my stomach.
Wow. Do you put the plate on before you lift off, and just go slowly so it doesn’t fall, or do you have a buddy place the plate on once you’re up?[/quote]
I dunno about plates, but Its easier to use a barbell, because you can lift it off the floor once you’re in the bridge.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
weightliftr wrote:
One thing that’s strange about my gym is that there are a number of guys that are pretty muscular (considerably bigger than me), but they don’t put up big numbers on standard ‘gym’ exercises like bench press and arm curls. And, I NEVER see them deadlifting. Not sure how they got that big.
Its kind of sad. I’m probably the strongest guy in the weight room most days, and I only deadlift 385.
The biggest mistake you can make, is trying to judge someone by what they are lifting during a workout RIGHT NOW.
I don’t deadlift. If someone told you it is necessary to get big, they lied to you. I simply don’t feel the need to state that often on this site. Lee Haney liked the T-bar row over the deadlift. So do I. Quit thinking in a box.
Also, my first two sets for biceps lately is just ten reps with only one 45lbs plate on the HS curl machine. I suppose if you saw me warming up, you would assume you were stronger than me. I injured my knee last week and only threw up 6 plates a side on the leg press…and that was painful. I am sure you would look at that one training session and think you were as strong or stronger than me.
Beginners should avoid making quick judgements of people who clearly carry much more muscle than they do. Instead, how about asking that guy what he actually did to get that big? Too much trouble?[/quote]
Um Lee Haney would probably make gains regardless of what he did considering that he juices pretty regularly. Additionally, deadlifting isn’t necessary in bodybuilding. If you choose not to deadlift, good for you, but I don’t think that guy was really making huge judgments, at least not as much as you judging him.
[quote]geoffsherman wrote:
Um Lee Haney would probably make gains regardless of what he did considering that he juices pretty regularly. Additionally, deadlifting isn’t necessary in bodybuilding. If you choose not to deadlift, good for you, but I don’t think that guy was really making huge judgments, at least not as much as you judging him. [/quote]
He wrote that he never sees them deadlifting so he is not sure how they got that big. Deadlifts are not necessary for being muscular. How is pointing that out judging him? I judge you to have wasted internet bandwidth with this last post of yours.
[quote]geoffsherman wrote:
Professor X wrote:
weightliftr wrote:
One thing that’s strange about my gym is that there are a number of guys that are pretty muscular (considerably bigger than me), but they don’t put up big numbers on standard ‘gym’ exercises like bench press and arm curls. And, I NEVER see them deadlifting. Not sure how they got that big.
Its kind of sad. I’m probably the strongest guy in the weight room most days, and I only deadlift 385.
The biggest mistake you can make, is trying to judge someone by what they are lifting during a workout RIGHT NOW.
I don’t deadlift. If someone told you it is necessary to get big, they lied to you. I simply don’t feel the need to state that often on this site. Lee Haney liked the T-bar row over the deadlift. So do I. Quit thinking in a box.
Also, my first two sets for biceps lately is just ten reps with only one 45lbs plate on the HS curl machine. I suppose if you saw me warming up, you would assume you were stronger than me. I injured my knee last week and only threw up 6 plates a side on the leg press…and that was painful. I am sure you would look at that one training session and think you were as strong or stronger than me.
Beginners should avoid making quick judgements of people who clearly carry much more muscle than they do. Instead, how about asking that guy what he actually did to get that big? Too much trouble?
Um Lee Haney would probably make gains regardless of what he did considering that he juices pretty regularly. Additionally, deadlifting isn’t necessary in bodybuilding. If you choose not to deadlift, good for you, but I don’t think that guy was really making huge judgments, at least not as much as you judging him. [/quote]
If you think that Lee Haney became Mr. Olympia 8 times simply because he “juices,” then you are a moron.
Prof.X .The particular person i speak of was acting like a cocky ass, like he was something special and could only bench 315.I dont try to put on a show to draw attention to myself when i train,i have had several illnesses and injuries through the yrs. that i have had to come back from,and when i am training regularly i played with weights like that,where i trained that was nothing to get excited about.These people at this gym were the newbies that got juiced up without first training naturally to make gains.
[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
You say sarcastically that you should have “proved you are tough” by beating him up but I must ask, why were you talking to him?
well…if you MUST ask! i was talking to him because he was talking to me and i wasn’t particularly pissed off. a lot of people think that i - and a lot of o-lifters - look lighter than they are. he took it a bit further and he was annoying but…i was not injured and was kind of amused by the guy, irrespecive of my being the real moron in all this.
there’s no arguement here. so you’d ignore him when he spoke to you and freak out if he touched you, immediately trying to shove a barbell in his ass, of all places. i didn’t.
i never said he grabbed my package.
i found him non-threatening and was therefore amused. he was foolish. nothing more. you’d ignore him from the outset and go for the rectum if need be. two different styles is all. [/quote]
Heh. I like your style a lot better than the “freak out, ignore him, then impale him on a bar bell” technique.
