I’m a 32 year old male. 6ft 2. 90kg. I spent a lot of time losing weight as I was pretty fat. Now I have gotten to where I want to be I have started my first cycle.
I am taking test e 250mg per week alongside Anavar 40mg ED. I have nolvadex and Arimidex on hand.
I’m just unsure what to eat. Some people say eat 4500 calories a day to bulk some say just go 1-200 over maintenance.
I go gym 4 times a week, 3 days off. My maintenance according to calculators is 2800. However my Apple Watch says I’m burning 3000 a day in total on rest days and 3600 on training days.
Do you know your actual maintenance calorie intake? If so, a reasonable bulk is ~500 in excess of your maintenance calories. Watch the scale daily, if it doesn’t go up any after a week, add 250 calories/day the next week (and again the week after if still no weight gain).
Why are you taking Anavar while bulking?
Take unflattering “before” pictures of yourself now, before you regret not taking them.
Not much to critique. You had diet and training on point, embraced MED strategy, and were using pharmaceutical AAS. By 1971, how many years of resistance training had you completed?
I started lifting weights in around March of 1968, doing very basic exercises for my upper body. I ran to develop my legs (I later saw that was a joke). I did get stronger fairly steadily. I would guess I weighed close to 180lbs when my doctor wrote me a prescription for 5mg of Dianabol twice a day for 30 days. Just started resistance training for legs December if 1970.
Today, I don’t believe any of you that are active on Tnation would recommend I even consider AAS.
I don’t recommend anyone take them. Especially today. Good way to check how persistent and serious someone is. Go speak to your medical provider.
You had the good fortune of being at the front end (legal quality AAS). Unfortunately the Gov’t has sent all this largely underground unless you have the medical issues/$$$ to get Rx grade compounded AAS. We have learned very little from quality randomized controlled trials since 1990, which is a shame.
OP i suggest you listen to all of these people as their knowledge of AAS is huge, but what they may tell you is probably irrelevant to what you want to know or need to hear.
An anavar and test (or similar) cycle will get you huge if you take enough and eat like crazy, true you’ll likely loose it all after but you will then be bitten by the bug and want to do it lot’s more.
Is that good? no of course not but I’m guessing that’s the way lots of people start. How many people who come on here with a cycle that’s not properly thought out, get told its wrong and change for the better?
I’m guessing most carry on and think that the large amount of water and glycogen that people commented on made them feel great so they do it again and again. Telling them no is obviously the right thing to do, after all these drugs are illegal in many countries. But how you tell people makes a world of difference, OP I’m sure you’ll continue your cycle and think it’s great.
But the next one could be much better, safer and the results longer lasting and the people commenting are the ones that can help.
Not me though, I am probably the last person who should be taking steroids, I’m 58, thin, lazy as fuck and know little about nutrition or training properly. I also live in a country where steroids are an illegal drug.
However, after checking with a genealogist I can confirm that none of you are my dad so can’t tell me what to do.
See how it works? Flame me for risking my health, you should as I am. However, it would be far better to try and steer me towards safer use (as you have many times).
Anytime. In this day and age, if hormones can be prescribed (deemed medically ethical although hotly debated for the young) for gender transition I don’t see why they can’t for body dysmorphia and other muscle related mental illness. Carry on @MrGrant !
Depends if you want to get as big as possible at the sacrifice of some excess fat or if you want to focus on lean gains. IMO 500calories over maintenance a day. That would equal a pound a week right there of slow quality gains plus whatever recomping the steroids do for you.
I intend to carry on. I’ve been following a diet plan for quite some time. I was over 18 stone. So I am aware of the dedication it takes.
I’m now ready to bulk up. The good kind. Not overweight like I was.
I’ve been going gym following a training regime. This isn’t something I just thought I’d jump into.
I shall try 3200kcal a day and check weekly for weight gain.
I was going to do a cut cycle after PCT but I may just cruise. I don’t see any point in stopping for pct only to start again a few months down the line.
Advice is always appreciated.
At the minute my libido is elevated and I feel stronger. Maybe that’s just placebo. But I’m enjoying it.
I know very little about this but from the moment I started reading up properly it seemed that cycling on and off was a poor idea with few positives and decided to cruise straight away.
This was around 3 years ago and if I was a responsible grown up I’d say I started a clinic lead TRT regime that’s steered me well, but I cruise, while trying to veer towards extreme caution because of my age.
Watching this transpire, I put the blame solely on the youth. But what did I expect? For years no one but the small esoteric group of prospective bodybuilders (and it was a small group) were the only ones taking AAS.
Arnold brought physique perfection to the general public. And it wasn’t long before teenagers began to take AAS. What else was the government going to do? They had to do something. We all know what resulted.
That same thing happened with GHB. I have a product to get a good night’s sleep in the closing weeks before a bodybuilding contest. The youth adds GHB to alcohol and bad outcomes result in many ways. The result. I cannot get GHB.
Reasonable chronological summary of the feedback from federal agencies/AMA leading up to 1990 regardless of the opinion made by the author. Quite a read to go back through testimony and findings of DHHS, FDA, DEA, AMA at the time.
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