Bulking Thread

[quote]Carlitosway wrote:

[quote]deat wrote:
Oh yeah and I had some really poopy form on the hs flat press, I was trying to sneak a few extra reps in (even though my pecs were already fried). My left shoulder feels a little sore. No big deal.

Here’s a shot after I got done training rows, after dropping the browns off at the superbowl.[/quote]

looking swole my man, LOL@ dropping the “browns off at the superbowl” will have to remember that one.

when you say 180 on HS flat press is that per side KG’s ? or what?![/quote]

Thanks dude.
When a machine is of the iso-lateral variety I tend to write the weights per side, since each side is idendpendent similar to dbs.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]deat wrote:
Oh yeah and I had some really poopy form on the hs flat press, I was trying to sneak a few extra reps in (even though my pecs were already fried). My left shoulder feels a little sore. No big deal.

Here’s a shot after I got done training rows, after dropping the browns off at the superbowl.[/quote]

Damn, dude, you’re like a buff, white, Bootsy Collins[/quote]

I was born in Funkytown.

i am glad this thread is here, it always reminds me to eat

[quote]deat wrote:
Oh yeah and I had some really poopy form on the hs flat press, I was trying to sneak a few extra reps in (even though my pecs were already fried). My left shoulder feels a little sore. No big deal.

Here’s a shot after I got done training rows, after dropping the browns off at the superbowl.[/quote]

Sweet mustache (no homo)… is that part of the bulking process kinda like hockey players playoff beards?

.greg.

Looking big deat.
Diet looks very solid, and perfect for a bulk. I too am in a gaining phase (aren’t we all?) and am training with size in mind instead of just solely strength for the first time ever really, and am loving the results and potential results so far.
My weight right now is at 213-215 and I am hoping to get to 225. I’ll post some pictures in a little to support the bulking thread haha.

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]deat wrote:
Oh yeah and I had some really poopy form on the hs flat press, I was trying to sneak a few extra reps in (even though my pecs were already fried). My left shoulder feels a little sore. No big deal.

Here’s a shot after I got done training rows, after dropping the browns off at the superbowl.[/quote]

Sweet mustache (no homo)… is that part of the bulking process kinda like hockey players playoff beards?

.greg.[/quote]

A classmate of mine in college (no homo, he’s a flaming metro), gave me this nugget of advice.

“When guys are bulking they shouldn’t shave their body hair because it hides bodyfat well. Only guys with a low bf should shave.”

So I decided to take it one step further and digitally enhance my facial hair.

[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
Looking big deat.
Diet looks very solid, and perfect for a bulk. I too am in a gaining phase (aren’t we all?)
[/quote]

Thanks ebomb, good luck to you with gaining!

hahahah good plan. I’m going to have to take that advice

.greg.

What kind of diet do most of you follow when you bulk? Do you just try to get in a whole bunch of calories and eat semi-clean? Do you eat a ton of carbs close to workout and cut out the carbs at night? I finished leaning out about a month ago and then started bulking. I’ve gained about 7 or 8 pounds but have also gained some fat. At first I was drinking a ton of whole milk and trying to get in as many calories as possible. I’ve decided to cut out the milk and eat a ton before and after working out and then eat smaller meals the rest of the day to slow down the fat gain. Also what do you guys think of running hill sprints to limit the fat gain while bulking? Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.

Damn deat! Hoss!

164, pr + 1

Hoping now that I’m on a few sleep supplements to get a little more sleep at night I might make it to 166 before the end of the month and hopefully put on 2 pounds a week from now on.

[quote]jonmb11 wrote:
What kind of diet do most of you follow when you bulk? Do you just try to get in a whole bunch of calories and eat semi-clean? Do you eat a ton of carbs close to workout and cut out the carbs at night? I finished leaning out about a month ago and then started bulking. I’ve gained about 7 or 8 pounds but have also gained some fat. At first I was drinking a ton of whole milk and trying to get in as many calories as possible. I’ve decided to cut out the milk and eat a ton before and after working out and then eat smaller meals the rest of the day to slow down the fat gain. Also what do you guys think of running hill sprints to limit the fat gain while bulking? Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.[/quote]

I was eating sort of like this:

6:00 AM: milk and whey before exercise

8:00 AM: milk and whey after

9:00AM:oatmeal, raisins, tuna sandwich

12:30PM: rice, cabbage, meat (or chicken or fish)
Maybe a chocolate bar.

3:00PM: rice with ginger and pork

5:00PM: milk and whey

8:00PM: salad, rice, meat (or chicken or fish) fruit.

10:30PM: milk and whey and peanut butter.

Friday night is whiskey night!

This got me stronger on all lifts while going from about 225 to 265 in 3 months.

I ended my cutting diet in early February and wasn’t happy with my results. I bottomed out at 179lbs at 5’9". (see pics in profile.) I went to the doctor and found out my T levels were at 189 (normal range 250-1100). As my ego was already crushed, I started pounding anything I could find in front of me and in no time I was up to 205lbs as seen in this pic.

In the month since then i’ve cleaned up my diet and have reached a steady 210-212lbs. I’ve been retested and it seems my normal levels are around 570. Still a little low but oh well.

My diet is the same every day and I lift 4/5 days per week with one extra day of hill/sprints. Get 8 hours every night from 10:30-6:30.

7:00
Large Banana
1/2 cup Oats
2 TBSP Naturally More
40g Whey

10:00, 1:00, 3:30
4oz 85/15 ground beef
2oz pulled chicken
1/3 cup black beans
3/4 cup cooked long grain rice
1/4 cup full fat cheese

pre-wo, 5:00
40g whey, 50g dextrose

during-wo, 5:30-6:30
20g whey, 50g dextrose, BCAA

post-wo, 7:00
40g whey, BCAA

9:30
4 whole eggs
4 egg whites
1/3 cup cheese
jalepenos/peppers

on my off days i substitute workout nutrition with an 8oz top round covered in cheese and a mound of broccoli

Updated pic in my avi, not quite as lean as some of you fancy guys but I put that down to gaining 70lbs in the past 15 months.

I’m hoping my body will eventually start to get leaner as I put on more muscle and increase my metabolism.

In bulking phase:

Meal 1
9 whole eggs

Meal 2
250g chicken breasts
60g almonds

Meal 3
250g ground beef

Meal 4
2 sirlion steaks (400g)

Meal 5
500g quark
60g almonds

pre-wo 60min before
50g corn starch
scoop whey

pre wo 30 min before
25g corn starch
scoop whey
25g dextro

peri-wo
25g dextro
scoop whey

post-wo 30 min after
25g corn starch
scoop whey

Deats day 2 as a juror

7am
1 chicken breast
1 whole wheat bagel
6 fish oil tabs
Gluc/cond tab

8am
2 chocolate glazed donuts
30 grams slow protein blend

10:20am
1.5 cups yogurt lowfat
.5 cup blueberries
1 cup of golean cerreal

1220pm
1.5 chicken breasts
4 pieces whole wheat hommade bread
1 baked potato

2 liters water so far!

It’s only 12:24!

3:00PM
1 Apple
1 Orange

4:30PM
Moutain dew
15 grams peptopro

445PM Workout
30 grams of peptopro (drank throughout hour long workout)

645PM
30 grams whey
5 grams leucine

7:15 PM
4 pieces wheat toast
1.5 chicken breasts
1 cup green beans (with hotsauce and garlic)
6 fish oil tabs

Workout

Bodyweight 270 (moving in the right direction!)

Avenger Leg Press
525 x 13 380 x 8, 290 x 7
Avenger Leg Curl
225 x 5 (back pump was too much had to stop repping)
225 x 7 x 3 x 1

Avenger Leg Ext.
135 x 60 sec hold at TKE x 4

Calf Raises (on two 45 lb plates)
A lot, started with one leg and a 75 lb db, finished with both legs and no added weight

Abductor
135 x 13 x 8 x 5

Hammer Strength H-Squat
One leg at a time, focusing on pushing through my heel
315 x 15 (right) x 13 (left)

[quote]jholla10 wrote:
I ended my cutting diet in early February and wasn’t happy with my results. I bottomed out at 179lbs at 5’9". (see pics in profile.) I went to the doctor and found out my T levels were at 189 (normal range 250-1100). As my ego was already crushed, I started pounding anything I could find in front of me and in no time I was up to 205lbs as seen in this pic.

In the month since then i’ve cleaned up my diet and have reached a steady 210-212lbs. I’ve been retested and it seems my normal levels are around 570. Still a little low but oh well.

My diet is the same every day and I lift 4/5 days per week with one extra day of hill/sprints. Get 8 hours every night from 10:30-6:30.

7:00
Large Banana
1/2 cup Oats
2 TBSP Naturally More
40g Whey

10:00, 1:00, 3:30
4oz 85/15 ground beef
2oz pulled chicken
1/3 cup black beans
3/4 cup cooked long grain rice
1/4 cup full fat cheese

pre-wo, 5:00
40g whey, 50g dextrose

during-wo, 5:30-6:30
20g whey, 50g dextrose, BCAA

post-wo, 7:00
40g whey, BCAA

9:30
4 whole eggs
4 egg whites
1/3 cup cheese
jalepenos/peppers

on my off days i substitute workout nutrition with an 8oz top round covered in cheese and a mound of broccoli[/quote]

Wow your testosterone went up that much from eating more…how drastic was your cut?

[quote]pumped340 wrote:

Wow your testosterone went up that much from eating more…how drastic was your cut?[/quote]

The doctor never gave me a reason for why my body wasn’t producing. Any of the opinions that say it had to do with my diet all come from people who don’t lift or eat for lifting.

I was eating between 2800-2400 calories as the diet progressed with all meals being protein and fat and only having carbs peri-wo. I ate plenty of whole eggs, beef, and coconut oil to keep my sat fat intake high, which of course is supposed to help with testosterone.

I really wish I could have taken affect of my rebound with a decent amount of T in my body.

A better way to measure regression is the use of weight and reps during workouts. So did your weight numbers regress during the cut?