[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
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All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.[/quote]
How are you preparing the oats? Cooked like oatmeal or are you blending them dry into a powder for the shakes? After using MG’s product, I like the oats taste that it has and figure the only way to get that is to blend the shit out of them dry and mix with my blend.[/quote]
4 of the meals I just microwave them in water and mix with sugar/cinnamon, the other 2 I just blend with protein powder in some water.
I don’t blend them separately and then add in the stuff though, I just do it all at once. Some gets left at the bottom but I Just swirl some water in there and chug.[/quote]
While we’re on the topic of oats and bulking. I recently starting having a bowl of 1/2 cup oat bran and 1/2 cup oatmeal with chocolate Metabolic Drive, frozen blueberries and natty peanut butter. I tried the Oat bran because of Lonnie Lowery and i gotta say, it’s good stuff, the whole meal winds up being around 600+ calories.
Oh and this is a typical breakfast on any given training day
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I love eating my oats with vanilla protein powder and frozen blue berries. I find I can eat it more easily with the berries and more of it, which is a big deal cause breakfast has always been hard for me to get down, especially on days when I get up at 5.15
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[/quote]
All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.[/quote]
How are you preparing the oats? Cooked like oatmeal or are you blending them dry into a powder for the shakes? After using MG’s product, I like the oats taste that it has and figure the only way to get that is to blend the shit out of them dry and mix with my blend.[/quote]
4 of the meals I just microwave them in water and mix with sugar/cinnamon, the other 2 I just blend with protein powder in some water.
I don’t blend them separately and then add in the stuff though, I just do it all at once. Some gets left at the bottom but I Just swirl some water in there and chug.[/quote]
While we’re on the topic of oats and bulking. I recently starting having a bowl of 1/2 cup oat bran and 1/2 cup oatmeal with chocolate Metabolic Drive, frozen blueberries and natty peanut butter. I tried the Oat bran because of Lonnie Lowery and i gotta say, it’s good stuff, the whole meal winds up being around 600+ calories.
Oh and this is a typical breakfast on any given training day
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I love eating my oats with vanilla protein powder and frozen blue berries. I find I can eat it more easily with the berries and more of it, which is a big deal cause breakfast has always been hard for me to get down, especially on days when I get up at 5.15
[quote]Mateus wrote:
Does it make any difference (nutritional value wise) if you use the oats dry (blended to powder) or if you cook them?[/quote]
I may be wrong, but I believe cooked oats have a lower GI than raw. Aside from that, maybe a difference in fiber? Not sure.[/quote]
I forgot for a second that you can search the internet for questions like this. You appear to be correct. The longer they are cooked, the higher the GI.
BB incline 275 x 7
Nautilus Neutral iso lateral Chest Press 180 x 7, 135 x 7, 90 x 6 (drop set)
Shoulders felt goofy/pumped so i skipped any direct shoulder work
Avenger pullover
225 x 12, 180 x 10 x 6
Avenger horz. row
225 x 14, 135 x 10, 60 sec negative
BB curl
130 x 7
75 x 10 x 5
Nautilus isolateral tricep ext (overhead)
170 x 7, 120 x 12 x 6
[quote]Mateus wrote:
Does it make any difference (nutritional value wise) if you use the oats dry (blended to powder) or if you cook them?[/quote]
I may be wrong, but I believe cooked oats have a lower GI than raw. Aside from that, maybe a difference in fiber? Not sure.[/quote]
So now that you are back on your bulk, are you keeping track of calories and macros? If so, i am curious to know what they look like. With 6-8 meals and a shitload of oats I suspect the CHO are around 4-500 and PRO around 3-400, maybe even 450. Fats maybe 120 or less? Just curious about the slightly new approach this time…
[quote]Mateus wrote:
Does it make any difference (nutritional value wise) if you use the oats dry (blended to powder) or if you cook them?[/quote]
I may be wrong, but I believe cooked oats have a lower GI than raw. Aside from that, maybe a difference in fiber? Not sure.[/quote]
So now that you are back on your bulk, are you keeping track of calories and macros? If so, i am curious to know what they look like. With 6-8 meals and a shitload of oats I suspect the CHO are around 4-500 and PRO around 3-400, maybe even 450. Fats maybe 120 or less? Just curious about the slightly new approach this time…[/quote]
I will have to redo my tracking because I just changed my split again. I’m going to be training twice a day 5 days a week (but ditching the morning cardio on those days, the other 2 being leg days still with AM cardio) which is going to drastically increase my carb/protein intake. I’d estimate carbs at around 750 and protein around 450. On those days I will try to keep fats <100 as well
[quote]Mateus wrote:
Does it make any difference (nutritional value wise) if you use the oats dry (blended to powder) or if you cook them?[/quote]
I may be wrong, but I believe cooked oats have a lower GI than raw. Aside from that, maybe a difference in fiber? Not sure.[/quote]
So now that you are back on your bulk, are you keeping track of calories and macros? If so, i am curious to know what they look like. With 6-8 meals and a shitload of oats I suspect the CHO are around 4-500 and PRO around 3-400, maybe even 450. Fats maybe 120 or less? Just curious about the slightly new approach this time…[/quote]
I will have to redo my tracking because I just changed my split again. I’m going to be training twice a day 5 days a week (but ditching the morning cardio on those days, the other 2 being leg days still with AM cardio) which is going to drastically increase my carb/protein intake. I’d estimate carbs at around 750 and protein around 450. On those days I will try to keep fats <100 as well[/quote]
Damn, to be young again lol. I’m not that old yet. I got ya pegged about 5500-6000. Thats alot of fucking oats! haha. Good luck!
[quote]Mateus wrote:
Does it make any difference (nutritional value wise) if you use the oats dry (blended to powder) or if you cook them?[/quote]
I may be wrong, but I believe cooked oats have a lower GI than raw. Aside from that, maybe a difference in fiber? Not sure.[/quote]
So now that you are back on your bulk, are you keeping track of calories and macros? If so, i am curious to know what they look like. With 6-8 meals and a shitload of oats I suspect the CHO are around 4-500 and PRO around 3-400, maybe even 450. Fats maybe 120 or less? Just curious about the slightly new approach this time…[/quote]
I will have to redo my tracking because I just changed my split again. I’m going to be training twice a day 5 days a week (but ditching the morning cardio on those days, the other 2 being leg days still with AM cardio) which is going to drastically increase my carb/protein intake. I’d estimate carbs at around 750 and protein around 450. On those days I will try to keep fats <100 as well[/quote]
Damn, to be young again lol. I’m not that old yet. I got ya pegged about 5500-6000. Thats alot of fucking oats! haha. Good luck![/quote]
Yah 5500 should be plenty. No joke on the oats lol, I picked up a big ass bag of splenda today just for them
I went from 180 to 190 fairly quickly recently(within 3-4 weeks) and thought it was too fast so I cleaned up my eating a bit but my 190 has been just stuck there for the past 2weeks. Do you guys add more food about this time? Or am I just being too impatient?
[quote]KTranman wrote:
How fast are you guys expecting to gain weight?
I went from 180 to 190 fairly quickly recently(within 3-4 weeks) and thought it was too fast so I cleaned up my eating a bit but my 190 has been just stuck there for the past 2weeks. Do you guys add more food about this time? Or am I just being too impatient?[/quote]
I recomend making small incremental increases in calories and see how you respond over a week. If you don’t gain any weight over a week, try upping it another 400 kcals. Make sure to weigh yourself at the same time of the day (hydration and the amount of food in your digestive system)
[quote]KTranman wrote:
How fast are you guys expecting to gain weight?
I went from 180 to 190 fairly quickly recently(within 3-4 weeks) and thought it was too fast so I cleaned up my eating a bit but my 190 has been just stuck there for the past 2weeks. Do you guys add more food about this time? Or am I just being too impatient?[/quote]
I recomend making small incremental increases in calories and see how you respond over a week. If you don’t gain any weight over a week, try upping it another 400 kcals. Make sure to weigh yourself at the same time of the day (hydration and the amount of food in your digestive system)[/quote]
In the last month I have had at least 15 people ask (some honestly, some jokingly) if I was taking PEDs (test, hgh, ect.)? 5 of those people are people who have known me for a long time, guys I played football with. A lot of the people are familiar with weightlifting. I usually just laugh it off, and say no (i’ve got nothing against PEDs, just not for me).
If I keep getting questions I will simply explain to them that I eat on average of 5 meals a day with 40-70 grams of protein a meal, their eyes get wide. Some of the guys comment that they often eat more than that. I explain to them that they might eat more than that for a meal, but certainly not five.
I explain to them I’ve been lifting for 8 years, hard for 5.5 years and smart for 2.5 years.
Barbell Bench Press Chains
135 x 12
225 x 6
275 40 lbs of chain (4 chains each 14 lbs) x 11 ( 3 rep PR
Nautilus Rotary Pec (drop set)
200 x 6, 140 x 6 two 30-second negative
Standing Barbell Military from dead stop below chin w/ thumbless grip
185 x 1 (opps too much weight) 135 x 9
Directly into db front raise
20 x 10, 20 x 8, 20 x 6
Hammer Strenght Iso Lateral Pulldown (drop set)
180 x 10 (tied PR) 135 x 7 two 30-second negatives
Hammer Strength Standing Shrug (started using thsi machine and it’s awesome because you can lean forward 5-10 degrees and really load your traps, I can feel them with a slight burning about an hour later)
225 x 7 (10 second hold on top each rep) 135 x 10 two 30-second holds
Alternating DB curlz
60 x 20 (focusing on contracting the biceptz for 2 sec. lower on a 4-count, really crushing the db grip)
Seated Incline DB curl
40 x 10 (treat it light a barbell, raise both arms at the same time)
Standing Alternating Hammer Curlz
40 x 16ish (raise, hold 2 seconds, lower in 4)
Lying dead stop ez bar tricep extension
115 x 14 x 7 x 3 (rest pause)
Pushups focusing on triceps
bw x 30 total reps (3 sets)
Pretty solid workout. Weights are moving in the right direction. I feel suprisingly agile for being 277 lb (lfitetime high), work has me walking around constantly for 4-6 hours a day. Reading BOI and some T-Cell Alpha (Waylander, akuma/600-lb smith bench guy ;), ceph, X, meat, others) stuff has given me solid motivation. All you BOI guys who are improving are inspirational.
^You look like a very solid guy. I would expect much more than 285 for 6 out of you. Oh well. Anyways, I was up around 220, went travelling to Indonesia and Vietnam for 6 weeks and went all the way down to 190. 1 month back and I’m up around 210-212 and setting PRs in lots of stuff. Crazy weight swings are fun.
Thanks for the compliment. I’m sure my DL would be better (as well as my squat) if I didn’t have a couple of severe back injuries over time. I’ve gone through bouts ranging 3 to 8 months of not being able to train at all in the relatively short time I’ve been lifting.
Regardless, much rehab and a month or two later I’m back and getting better than I ever was. Thank you again!
Also, good job getting about 20 lbs back on within a month! Keep up!
