bw 275.4
My starting weight is a bit lower, but two and a half weeks ago I started adding a half gallon of milk and a cup of oats to my diet. Started at ~172lbs and am up to 182lbs. Planning to continue on at least to 200.
Bulking Legz workout
BW: 273 lb (8 hours on my feet losing water like crazy)
Avenger Leg Press Drop set
595 x 10, 505 x 5, 415 x 4
Nautilus Leg Ext Drop Set
200 x 14, 140 x 7, 90 x 6
Hammerstrength isolateral leg curl
50 x 12, 35 x 9
Hammer Strengh Lunge
115 x 10 (left) x 7 (right)
HS Straight leg horizontal calf raise
315 x 16
HS seated bent knee calf raise
90 x 15 10 forced reps (no typo)
Standing Calf raises on 45 lb plate (focusing on the “double pop” as described in BOI or T-ALPHA)
x AMAP x AMAP
Trying to bring the lower legs especially the sol-ee-us up. Neglected for wayy too long.
Food is going to be epic today
Meal 1
1 cup oatmeal
2 organic pop tart deals
6 oz of pork
Meal 2
2 slices of homeade wheat bread
1/4 blueberries
1 cup of cottage cheese
natty pb
6 oz pork
4 oz steak
Pre Workout
10 grams peptopro
caff.
10 grams peptopro during workout
Post workout
1.75 cups oats w/ brown sugar and cin. to taste
2 organic pop tart deals
40 grams whey
^^^^post missing info
EPIC Tex-mex dinner to follow. Homemade salsa, grilled chicken, fruit and fixings. Perhaps diz-urt if the mood hits me.
[quote]zraw wrote:
To me, my biggest mistake was to always go for like… 6 months mass, 3 months cut, 3 months maintenance of a lean physique for summer so I’m kinda hoping that by not leaning out this summer ill be able to “harden” my gains
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Yes, this is what I’m getting at. I’m glad you have decided to alter that approach, I think you will be much happier in the long term with the results you see from doing this.
AND
Gentlemen, Waylander is back on the bulking horse. Please allow me to show you how this thing is done! haha happy bulking fellas!
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
To me, my biggest mistake was to always go for like… 6 months mass, 3 months cut, 3 months maintenance of a lean physique for summer so I’m kinda hoping that by not leaning out this summer ill be able to “harden” my gains
[/quote]
Yes, this is what I’m getting at. I’m glad you have decided to alter that approach, I think you will be much happier in the long term with the results you see from doing this.
AND
Gentlemen, Waylander is back on the bulking horse. Please allow me to show you how this thing is done! haha happy bulking fellas![/quote]
Finally I can respect you again.
Btw, could you shoot a pic with your arm shown straight and from the rear? Your long head has come up nicely and it’s really noticeable when viewed from the side with the arm straight, but your medial head is nowhere to be seen in those poses… So I wanna see what it looks like from a different angle, maybe it’s too short/wimpy (happens, see shawn ray if I remember right).
May just be genetic shape that’s hampering you there, but I wonder if we can’t fix that like with your long head… It would make your arm look somewhat thicker just above the elbow when straight and viewed from the side, basically continue the sweep from the long head a bit, and make it look more powerful in a front double-bi and so on.
Also gotta work some on the rear delts and lateral head (tri, but you knew about that one anyway), arms and delts look just a little weak compared to the rest when in a “hands on the hips, elbows out” pose (always gonna look weaker than it is there, but that doesn’t mean we can’t make it look bigger… May also be your posing).
Probably should have posted this in your thread, but whatever.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
To me, my biggest mistake was to always go for like… 6 months mass, 3 months cut, 3 months maintenance of a lean physique for summer so I’m kinda hoping that by not leaning out this summer ill be able to “harden” my gains
[/quote]
Yes, this is what I’m getting at. I’m glad you have decided to alter that approach, I think you will be much happier in the long term with the results you see from doing this.
AND
Gentlemen, Waylander is back on the bulking horse. Please allow me to show you how this thing is done! haha happy bulking fellas![/quote]
Finally I can respect you again.
Btw, could you shoot a pic with your arm shown straight and from the rear? Your long head has come up nicely and it’s really noticeable when viewed from the side with the arm straight, but your medial head is nowhere to be seen in those poses… So I wanna see what it looks like from a different angle, maybe it’s too short/wimpy (happens, see shawn ray if I remember right).
May just be genetic shape that’s hampering you there, but I wonder if we can’t fix that like with your long head… It would make your arm look somewhat thicker just above the elbow when straight and viewed from the side, basically continue the sweep from the long head a bit, and make it look more powerful in a front double-bi and so on.
Also gotta work some on the rear delts and lateral head (tri, but you knew about that one anyway), arms and delts look just a little weak compared to the rest when in a “hands on the hips, elbows out” pose (always gonna look weaker than it is there, but that doesn’t mean we can’t make it look bigger… May also be your posing).
Probably should have posted this in your thread, but whatever.
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You are right as usual CC. I always forget there even is a medial head until you mention it. You can see it’s just a little baby lump there under my long head haha. It’s pretty funny how small the arm looks when the lateral head and bicep are not shown. HIT ME WITH SOME KNOWLEDGE!
Edit: One exercise I just added a week ago thanks to Scott is that overhead pin press. The bar is at hairline level, hands shoulder width and with elbows flared. Brutal on the triceps, feels like a promising movement.
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[/quote]
All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[/quote]
All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.[/quote]
Hey Way, i thought i recall you saying you had better gains when you kept your carbs to breakfast and workout times? If i’m right, why the change to constant carb meals? I’m also 6’2 and coming off of my first bodybuilding show and taking off a year or two to focus on putting on some size and keeping it there for awhile. It’s always great to see a tall guy put on appreciable size like yourself.
[quote]Lunarisx718 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[/quote]
All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.[/quote]
Hey Way, i thought i recall you saying you had better gains when you kept your carbs to breakfast and workout times? If i’m right, why the change to constant carb meals? I’m also 6’2 and coming off of my first bodybuilding show and taking off a year or two to focus on putting on some size and keeping it there for awhile. It’s always great to see a tall guy put on appreciable size like yourself.[/quote]
Ehhhh I was kind of wrong 
lol I blamed carbs but I was actually having quite a bit of fat with those meals as well, so obviously some fat gain was going to occur. Now I Just minimize fats if I am eating high carbs and it works much better.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Lunarisx718 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[/quote]
All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.[/quote]
Hey Way, i thought i recall you saying you had better gains when you kept your carbs to breakfast and workout times? If i’m right, why the change to constant carb meals? I’m also 6’2 and coming off of my first bodybuilding show and taking off a year or two to focus on putting on some size and keeping it there for awhile. It’s always great to see a tall guy put on appreciable size like yourself.[/quote]
Ehhhh I was kind of wrong lol I blamed carbs but I was actually having quite a bit of fat with those meals as well, so obviously some fat gain was going to occur. Now I Just minimize fats if I am eating high carbs and it works much better.[/quote]
Way that was an extremely simple way of putting it. You are deff one of the most helpful big guys on this board. Now I have 2 years to gain like a 100 pounds to catch up to you. goes to eat a cow
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Lunarisx718 wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[/quote]
All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.[/quote]
Hey Way, i thought i recall you saying you had better gains when you kept your carbs to breakfast and workout times? If i’m right, why the change to constant carb meals? I’m also 6’2 and coming off of my first bodybuilding show and taking off a year or two to focus on putting on some size and keeping it there for awhile. It’s always great to see a tall guy put on appreciable size like yourself.[/quote]
Ehhhh I was kind of wrong lol I blamed carbs but I was actually having quite a bit of fat with those meals as well, so obviously some fat gain was going to occur. Now I Just minimize fats if I am eating high carbs and it works much better.[/quote]
Way that was an extremely simple way of putting it. You are deff one of the most helpful big guys on this board. Now I have 2 years to gain like a 100 pounds to catch up to you. goes to eat a cow
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haha, happy to help man.
Hm way… Sorry man, that just looks like an uncharacteristically short/high attached medial head…
Not like your long head which was there but not really used much in the exercises you did and with your technique…
Try taking another picture, this time from the side and with the arm again straight and flexed, but rotated interiorly so that we can see the medial head some… (i.e. biceps pointing almost at the chest).
I never had trouble with my own medial head, it stands out in a side-tri pose easily below my long head unless I rotate my arm too far outward.
What did make them bigger were CGP with elbows tucked all the way and similar stuff… Elbows all the way out seems to be more lateral head… But I don’t know how much that will help you as they seem to be so high and almost hidden under the long head (might push the long head up some? Dunno).
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Hm way… Sorry man, that just looks like an uncharacteristically short/high attached medial head…
Not like your long head which was there but not really used much in the exercises you did and with your technique…
Try taking another picture, this time from the side and with the arm again straight and flexed, but rotated interiorly so that we can see the medial head some… (i.e. biceps pointing almost at the chest).
I never had trouble with my own medial head, it stands out in a side-tri pose easily below my long head unless I rotate my arm too far outward.
What did make them bigger were CGP with elbows tucked all the way and similar stuff… Elbows all the way out seems to be more lateral head… But I don’t know how much that will help you as they seem to be so high and almost hidden under the long head (might push the long head up some? Dunno).
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haha, oh well! I was bound to find a genetic disadvantage eventually lol
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Hm way… Sorry man, that just looks like an uncharacteristically short/high attached medial head…
Not like your long head which was there but not really used much in the exercises you did and with your technique…
Try taking another picture, this time from the side and with the arm again straight and flexed, but rotated interiorly so that we can see the medial head some… (i.e. biceps pointing almost at the chest).
I never had trouble with my own medial head, it stands out in a side-tri pose easily below my long head unless I rotate my arm too far outward.
What did make them bigger were CGP with elbows tucked all the way and similar stuff… Elbows all the way out seems to be more lateral head… But I don’t know how much that will help you as they seem to be so high and almost hidden under the long head (might push the long head up some? Dunno).
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haha, oh well! I was bound to find a genetic disadvantage eventually lol[/quote]
Yeah well, almost everyone is a mixed bag (so to speak) genetically… You still got more good traits for bbing than most… Though with your lines/shape you’d have to be really damn huge to be competitive at a high level, but then again you can likely make it to that level of size too… Just a matter of food, strength gains, balancing out some weak areas more (and gear of course).
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Hm way… Sorry man, that just looks like an uncharacteristically short/high attached medial head…
Not like your long head which was there but not really used much in the exercises you did and with your technique…
Try taking another picture, this time from the side and with the arm again straight and flexed, but rotated interiorly so that we can see the medial head some… (i.e. biceps pointing almost at the chest).
I never had trouble with my own medial head, it stands out in a side-tri pose easily below my long head unless I rotate my arm too far outward.
What did make them bigger were CGP with elbows tucked all the way and similar stuff… Elbows all the way out seems to be more lateral head… But I don’t know how much that will help you as they seem to be so high and almost hidden under the long head (might push the long head up some? Dunno).
[/quote]
haha, oh well! I was bound to find a genetic disadvantage eventually lol[/quote]
Yeah well, almost everyone is a mixed bag (so to speak) genetically… You still got more good traits for bbing than most… Though with your lines/shape you’d have to be really damn huge to be competitive at a high level, but then again you can likely make it to that level of size too… Just a matter of food, strength gains, balancing out some weak areas more (and gear of course).
[/quote]
Haha yah, well I’m going to be pushing the envelope on all things BBing concerned for the next 12 months leading up to this show, for better or worse, and see what happens.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[/quote]
All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.[/quote]
How are you preparing the oats? Cooked like oatmeal or are you blending them dry into a powder for the shakes? After using MG’s product, I like the oats taste that it has and figure the only way to get that is to blend the shit out of them dry and mix with my blend.
[quote]Mateus wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[/quote]
All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.[/quote]
How are you preparing the oats? Cooked like oatmeal or are you blending them dry into a powder for the shakes? After using MG’s product, I like the oats taste that it has and figure the only way to get that is to blend the shit out of them dry and mix with my blend.[/quote]
4 of the meals I just microwave them in water and mix with sugar/cinnamon, the other 2 I just blend with protein powder in some water.
I don’t blend them separately and then add in the stuff though, I just do it all at once. Some gets left at the bottom but I Just swirl some water in there and chug.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Mateus wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]Elite0423 wrote:
Way is their any chance you could post your bulking diet somewhere ?
[/quote]
All it is is pretty much 1/2c of oats and a lean protein every 2 hours for 6 meals and the 7th is protein + fat.
LOTS of oats, then some lean ground beef, protein powder, LOTS of egg whites and whole eggs and some fish.[/quote]
How are you preparing the oats? Cooked like oatmeal or are you blending them dry into a powder for the shakes? After using MG’s product, I like the oats taste that it has and figure the only way to get that is to blend the shit out of them dry and mix with my blend.[/quote]
4 of the meals I just microwave them in water and mix with sugar/cinnamon, the other 2 I just blend with protein powder in some water.
I don’t blend them separately and then add in the stuff though, I just do it all at once. Some gets left at the bottom but I Just swirl some water in there and chug.[/quote]
While we’re on the topic of oats and bulking. I recently starting having a bowl of 1/2 cup oat bran and 1/2 cup oatmeal with chocolate Metabolic Drive, frozen blueberries and natty peanut butter. I tried the Oat bran because of Lonnie Lowery and i gotta say, it’s good stuff, the whole meal winds up being around 600+ calories.
Oh and this is a typical breakfast on any given training day