[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
I hurt my back pulling conventional once, and sumo twice all within a few months. Last summer my goal was to get a 315 deadlift conventional and I did it but my lower back was rounded and I was too fatigued. I gave up deadlifting heavy for a month after that. I switched to sumo and loved it because I was able to do it pain free. Then again I would go for a new max every week and I hurt myself. Then during Spring I tried doing the Coan/ Philippi routine. I hurt my back again (too much volume, definately wasn’t eating enough, I was only 155 lbs). The pain has always been right above the glutes , I have no idea what it was though. Once I started stretching my hip flexors every few hours and using a foam roller I’ve been pain free. Basically my form sucked, my hip flexors were way too tight causing my lowerback to be very stiff all the time, and I tried to go for maxes every single week.[/quote]
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Thanks xb-C for the insite. That is the same kind of pain I was having, knocks on wood, but I haven’t had it the last two times I pulled. If it continues I will switch to sumo and give that a try.
yvanehtnioj, how did you use the foam roller to help your pain. I might invest in one if it’s worthwhile. I mean I just atarted doing deads since over a year ago, stopped because of LB pain and then didn’t continue cause I was a pussy. I will say it’s always been a strong lift of mine. If I pulled with a belt and mixed grip I’m sure my max now would be fairly close to my old max. However I stopped using the belt and the mixed grip, but now am back to the mixed grip. I’m so much stronger that way. I can pull 405 x 5 after a 1.25 year lay off and a few weeks of deading under my belt, I hope my strength sky rockets soon. Andy Bolton here I come.[/quote]
Definately get a foam roller. Best 20 bucks I’ve ever spent. It also helped a lot with my knee pain too. I’m only 17 years old and I’ve hurt myself so many freaking times haha. I just lied down on the roller and went up and down and it helped immediately. I lean to the left to get that side of the lower back and also lean to the right. Hope I helped…
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
yvanehtnioj wrote:
I hurt my back pulling conventional once, and sumo twice all within a few months. Last summer my goal was to get a 315 deadlift conventional and I did it but my lower back was rounded and I was too fatigued. I gave up deadlifting heavy for a month after that. I switched to sumo and loved it because I was able to do it pain free. Then again I would go for a new max every week and I hurt myself. Then during Spring I tried doing the Coan/ Philippi routine. I hurt my back again (too much volume, definately wasn’t eating enough, I was only 155 lbs). The pain has always been right above the glutes , I have no idea what it was though. Once I started stretching my hip flexors every few hours and using a foam roller I’ve been pain free. Basically my form sucked, my hip flexors were way too tight causing my lowerback to be very stiff all the time, and I tried to go for maxes every single week.
[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Thanks xb-C for the insite. That is the same kind of pain I was having, knocks on wood, but I haven’t had it the last two times I pulled. If it continues I will switch to sumo and give that a try.
yvanehtnioj, how did you use the foam roller to help your pain. I might invest in one if it’s worthwhile. I mean I just atarted doing deads since over a year ago, stopped because of LB pain and then didn’t continue cause I was a pussy. I will say it’s always been a strong lift of mine. If I pulled with a belt and mixed grip I’m sure my max now would be fairly close to my old max. However I stopped using the belt and the mixed grip, but now am back to the mixed grip. I’m so much stronger that way. I can pull 405 x 5 after a 1.25 year lay off and a few weeks of deading under my belt, I hope my strength sky rockets soon. Andy Bolton here I come.
Definately get a foam roller. Best 20 bucks I’ve ever spent. It also helped a lot with my knee pain too. I’m only 17 years old and I’ve hurt myself so many freaking times haha. I just lied down on the roller and went up and down and it helped immediately. I lean to the left to get that side of the lower back and also lean to the right. Hope I helped…
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You sound just like me. My lower back and knee are shit right now. How exactly do you foam roll you knee? Do you actually have your knee on the roller, or do you just roll around it? What I’ve been doing is rolling from my waist down to an inch or two above my knee (I’m also having IT band issues).
I roll the IT band, quads, inner thighs, and my calves. It really helped with the knee pain. I’ve also been adding five tablespoons of olive oil in my oatmeal which has helped my joints a lot
Had an awesome training session today. I worked with a pro female (my first friend at the gym and I’ve worked there for a year and a half) today that by shear chance was doing the same program and same movements.
Since, I have been a dip shit lately and not progressing as I should (still hitting PR’s). Even though her shoulders were probably as big as mine, and had been lifting for the last ten years, I couldn’t let her get anywhere near my lifts. So, for the sole fact that I have a cock I PR’d on every lift, added about 300lbs total my rp and straight sets.
Preacher Curl 8-3-2 (50#/side)
Pin Wheel Curl 80#x10 (a little body English, I won’t lie)
Toe Press 14x6 plates/side
Leg Curl 9-3-5 x 185 (weird)
Hack Squat (go up on toes ultra-close stance) 6 plates/side x 10 * 3 plates/side x 20 WM
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
Had an awesome training session today. I worked with a pro female (my first friend at the gym and I’ve worked there for a year and a half) today that by shear chance was doing the same program and same movements.
Since, I have been a dip shit lately and not progressing as I should (still hitting PR’s). Even though her shoulders were probably as big as mine, and had been lifting for the last ten years, I couldn’t let her get anywhere near my lifts. So, for the sole fact that I have a cock I PR’d on every lift, added about 300lbs total my rp and straight sets.
Preacher Curl 8-3-2 (50#/side)
Pin Wheel Curl 80#x10 (a little body English, I won’t lie)
Toe Press 14x6 plates/side
Leg Curl 9-3-5 x 185 (weird)
Hack Squat (go up on toes ultra-close stance) 6 plates/side x 10 * 3 plates/side x 20 WM
Brother[/quote]
And here you are again.
We chatted briefly over facebook.
Fuck the internet.
All you guys talking about back pain, I feel ya, I was in the same boat for a few months trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with me. I would do dead, do my back extensions get hurt. Ice, motrin, back extensions then back in the game and get hurt again. So I started thinking what the fuck was wrong with me.
Turns out all the back extensions are great, but what has really been helping me is weighted ab work. I’ve even been able to do deadlifts touch and go, which normally would cripple me in even belt. I attribute my painfree deadlift, squatting, and everything else to the ab work. Try it if you arent.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Why do people pull sumo anyways? The only reason I can think to do it is if you are a PLer and want to shorten your ROM. I see no purpose for it whatsoever from a BBing perspective.[/quote]
I actually agree with this unless maybe if you do it as a hamstring/glute movement.
Ok guys…this is both a diet update and a plea for help from the vets, though I have doubts anyone will be able to help.
I’m sure everyone has noticed I only post pics of my back and my legs…never really my front and this pic shows why. The broken collar bone I suffered has left my chest/traps/delts (delts from side few)…triceps and biceps seem elongated on the left side - which makes them look flatter, extremely unsymmetrical. So much so that I really can’t BB incline or flat bench without it eventually fucking up my shoulder.
Just look at the pic and you will see, both pecs are completely RELAXED. See how uneven they are? As you could probably guess this also gives me pretty serious neck pain all day, almost every single day. I wish I could go back in time and have the surgery where they put the collar bone back together with a plate instead of letting it heal over itself - I didn’t realize all this would happen because of it. The doctors really should have said something.
CC, anyone, any ideas on something I can do to minimize how horrible this looks?
Diet wise - you can see I’m MUCH leaner than previously…few more weeks and I’ll be done with this and ready to gain again.
Edit: Upon looking closer, you can even see just how much less wide my left clavicle comes out from the neck…sigh this is rather depressing. I used to think about just quitting because of it, but I’ll never let that happen. I keep pushing through, but it motherfucking infuriates me EVERY DAY! I feel like I may never build an impressive chest because of it, I also feel this is a huge reason my chest pressing numbers are always rather horrible compared to my tricep/shoulder/back strength.
Double Edit : I know we all clown on each other a lot, but this is a very sensitive topic for me - probably the only thing that really really bothers me. So if people could refrain from making fun of it I’d really appreciate it.
Josh, that front relaxed shot, there is shadow hitting your left shoulder that is distorting the pic a little bit, but from looking at your chest, yes you can definitely see whats going on.
[quote]WS4JB wrote:
Josh, that front relaxed shot, there is shadow hitting your left shoulder that is distorting the pic a little bit, but from looking at your chest, yes you can definitely see whats going on.
And yeah, your back is sick as fuck.[/quote]
Yeah its just the way the lighting is in my room I can’t really get around it atm…but the difference in lengths is no illusion I assure you.
