[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]babaganoosh wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
I agree with brick, when doing this type of routine, doing tris the day after chest isn’t such a grand idea.
(I’ve trained them the day after shoulders though, but then again, I only tend to use one overhead pressing exercise per shoulder day on this type of split).
Do you have any particular weaknesses? If so, won’t hurt to pick one bodypart or so and train it twice a week.
My triceps sessions back when I did this type of stuff (note: Elbow sleeves! Neoprene ones like Tommy Konos work fine, PL-style sleeves are too much of a bother to wear throughout the whole workout… You just want to keep the elbows warm and “lubricated”):
1-Big Press (always PL setup, CGP elbows tucked all the way / CGP in the smith with slightly flared elbows pressing towards feet as well as up / SWRGB / CGP off pins set some inches above the chest / Board CGP / neutral grip DB presses, V-Squat/Power-squat push presses work well for both tris and delts / HS machine dips with pronated grip handles)
2-Some relatively elbow friendly extension mostly to give the long head some love (the lying ones are all done with bar behind the head and upper arms stopping at an incline rather than right above your chest) or Pullover+extension hybrid (PJR Pullover+extensions with DB or EZ bar, Dead Stop Extensions with EZ Bar off floor or bench / Lying DB extensions with arms at an incline or “rolling” extensions / Scott Extensions i.e. bent forward at the hip joints facing away from cable stack and doing a pullover-extension standing or kneeling / In the regular non-wide HS incline machine: JM Presses)
3-Ok, I often skipped the third exercise… Pushdowns don’t do anything for me, though I sometimes did them light for high reps just to get some blood in… Personally I’d train the tris twice a week with 2 main exercises per session if they’re a weak point and you’re using regular bb style training ala bodybuilding bible.
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Don’t want to hijack so send me a PM if you want, but if you did Shoulders + Tris/Chest + Tris, is there a good pressing movement for Tris that won’t be hurt in performance too bad from fatigued shoulders (and also shoulder friendly/safe)? or should you just stick to doing pushdowns etc and then some kind of triceps extensions/whatever for the long head? (I’m currently doing the latter…)[/quote]
See my last above. I don’t advise more than one pressing exercise for triceps for most people if they train triceps after chest or shoulders. But then again, I’m not other people! If you want to try it, do it. See how your body responds and how you feel. If you try it and during or after the workout your body tells you, “Damn, this is too much for me,” then it IS too much! If it’s not too much, then your body isn’t gonna tell you that.
And back to what I said in my “Bible” thread. There are general rules to this thing, but there are isn’t a right and wrong way to train. What benefits one, might send another to the friggin’ hospital. And in regards to this topic, I always think of Brian Siders. He trains the “wrong way” and is the one of the best powerlifters and strongmen of all time! We’re talking about 3 to 4 hour workouts, exercise selections and combos, and volumes and tonnages that would have us all calling out of work the next day! So keep this in mind when you set up a routine. If it works for you - IT’S GOOD! [/quote]
Yeah, of course. The reason I was asking is because after training chest or shoulders, if I do CGBP my poundage really suffers so I don’t feel it’s worth doing, but was looking for a good alternative pressing movement for tris where previous exercises (for chest/shoulders) wouldn’t hurt the lift too bad. DSEs are great, but for the medial + lateral heads I don’t feel doing some rope pulldowns is really enough.