Brotherhood of Iron Redux

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
xb-C wrote:
yvanehtnioj wrote:
Benched today

205x1 PR! I know it sucks, but it’s the first time getting over 200. My bench has finally started to move.

cgbp
185X4 PR…I think my close grip bench is more than my normal one…

db flyes
90x8

How can you only bench 205, yet youDB fly the 90’s for a set of 8?

Either way good job on yer PR

haha I was wondering the same thing, there’s no way I could even use 90’s and be even remotely productive with them.[/quote]

maybe his form sucks?

Assuming he meant 45’s, and just added them together not knowing better?

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
@ JB, yeah my biceps are strong always have been. I think its cause I’ve focused on them so hard for so long. Its a blessing and a curse because it sometimes takes its toll on my back workouts.

@ Live, I think he’s referring to the 1753 and a 1358 aint bad either I definetely had gas in the tank.

lol oh shit dude, i honestly didnt see you curled 175 x 3

thats good shit bro, seriously. [/quote]

Yeah man, and I’m surprised my posts went through because I was out visiting some family and only had my Blackberry Bold, which has been fucking up like a mother fucker lately, couldn’t quote people and shit.

Like I said before I love how strong my biceps are, but I really have to be careful when training back because it can easily turn into a bicep workout, and when I use my biceps I can toos around much more weight on back exercises.

I guess it’s from neglecting back a bit when I first started training, also why my shoulders and legs suffer a bit. :(. Nothing a few years won’t take care of though.

[quote]red04 wrote:
Assuming he meant 45’s, and just added them together not knowing better?[/quote]

He had to have meant that otherwise doing flys with the 90’s with good form means a 300+ bench.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
WS4JB wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Did some big boy bi’s yesterday.

Curls

Bar * Whatever
95 * Whatever
175 * 3
135 * 8

Hammer Curls

50 * Whatever
65 * Whatever
90 * 10

HS Plate Loaded Machine Curls Single Arm

25 per side * whatever
50 per side * whatever
75 per side * 5

Conc Curls

35 * whatever
50 * whatever
65 * 6

Fuck your bis are strong.

Just upsettingly strong.

you can’t curl 135?[/quote]

I can get 135 for a loose 3-4. 175 would look like a fucking hang clean for me though.

Or more… I mean I’m sure some of us could wrassle around the 90’s for a fly but I think the concentration and contraction of the muscle is more important than the weight used, just IMHO.

So I started feeling better this evening… then got hit by what feels like a fucking migraine. Top 5 worst headaches I’ve ever had. Crippled me. I was lying on the couch in my living room with my covers in dim lighting listening to classical music. Fucked up shit. Looking at food nauseates me.

Thanks to all you guys who added your 2 cents on the beef… I think this will give me somewhere to go once I actually start eating like a fucking man again, not like a rabbit.

Austin, fuck you and your biceps. You’re gonna get to 20 inch arms before I get to 17 and I’m gonna resign from bodybuilding. Haha

Ok this Excedrin I just found is finally kicking in. Taking some Robutussin and hittin the sack.

Haha sorry I always add the dumbells together…I wish I could do flyes with the 90s ha

Take some of that Tussin and hit the sack Bug, and you think you’re gonna keep going at that pace for another 3 3 weeks ?

This was my session from Monday.

Sumo deadlift
45x10
x6
135x2
x1
185x1
225x1
275x1
315x1
385x1 PR…very happy with this, my deadlift was 315 at the beginning of june

box Back Squat to parallel (powerlifting style)
45x5
135x2
185x1
245x8 PR, last week only got 225 for six, second time in six months that I’m squatting

Leg Extensions
160x20 PR

Are my deadlift and squat warmups excessive? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[quote]WS4JB wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
WS4JB wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
Did some big boy bi’s yesterday.

Curls

Bar * Whatever
95 * Whatever
175 * 3
135 * 8

Hammer Curls

50 * Whatever
65 * Whatever
90 * 10

HS Plate Loaded Machine Curls Single Arm

25 per side * whatever
50 per side * whatever
75 per side * 5

Conc Curls

35 * whatever
50 * whatever
65 * 6

Fuck your bis are strong.

Just upsettingly strong.

you can’t curl 135?

I can get 135 for a loose 3-4. 175 would look like a fucking hang clean for me though.[/quote]

haha same here

[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
This was my session from Monday.

Sumo deadlift
45x10
x6
135x2
x1
185x1
225x1
275x1
315x1
385x1 PR…very happy with this, my deadlift was 315 at the beginning of june
[/quote]

thats good stuff man. was your 315 a sumo or conventional pull?

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
Josh, how do you cook it? I find sometimes it just gets too dry… and if it’s too fatty (because, say, it was on sale), then the smell of the lard makes me nauseous. Haha, thanks brotha[/quote]

I cook mine in a regular pan and drain the fat out after…I used to even rinse it to get extra fat out but it just makes it way too bland and I’m still leaning out without doing that so I’m not going to anymore. lol

Mine never seems too dry, maybe its because when I cook it I keep it covered in between stirrings? I am getting sick of the taste tho, need to find a new flavoring to use for a while. Ive been having it 3-4x a day with the same seasoning for over a month now.

[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
yvanehtnioj wrote:
This was my session from Monday.

Sumo deadlift
45x10
x6
135x2
x1
185x1
225x1
275x1
315x1
385x1 PR…very happy with this, my deadlift was 315 at the beginning of june

thats good stuff man. was your 315 a sumo or conventional pull?
[/quote]

sumo, i used to pull conventional but my form got sloppy and I hurt my lower back. It didn’t heal for two months. My goal is to get 405 by the end of august and 500 by next summer.

[quote]yvanehtnioj wrote:
This was my session from Monday.

Sumo deadlift
45x10
x6
135x2
x1
185x1
225x1
275x1
315x1
385x1 PR…very happy with this, my deadlift was 315 at the beginning of june

box Back Squat to parallel (powerlifting style)
45x5
135x2
185x1
245x8 PR, last week only got 225 for six, second time in six months that I’m squatting

Leg Extensions
160x20 PR

Are my deadlift and squat warmups excessive? Any thoughts would be appreciated. [/quote]

Your warmups look good to me.
I think you could probably ditch doing the bar IMHO.

Good job on 385. Funny that you say you hurt yourself pulling sumo.
I switched to sumo after fucking my back up many times pulling conventional.
Keep up the good work.

[quote]xb-C wrote:
yvanehtnioj wrote:
This was my session from Monday.

Sumo deadlift
45x10
x6
135x2
x1
185x1
225x1
275x1
315x1
385x1 PR…very happy with this, my deadlift was 315 at the beginning of june

box Back Squat to parallel (powerlifting style)
45x5
135x2
185x1
245x8 PR, last week only got 225 for six, second time in six months that I’m squatting

Leg Extensions
160x20 PR

Are my deadlift and squat warmups excessive? Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Your warmups look good to me.
I think you could probably ditch doing the bar IMHO.

Good job on 385. Funny that you say you hurt yourself pulling sumo.
I switched to sumo after fucking my back up many times pulling conventional.
Keep up the good work.[/quote]

How did you fuck your back up? What kind of pain and where was it located, trying to see if I suffered the same shit?

Why do people pull sumo anyways? The only reason I can think to do it is if you are a PLer and want to shorten your ROM. I see no purpose for it whatsoever from a BBing perspective.

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:

How did you fuck your back up? What kind of pain and where was it located, trying to see if I suffered the same shit?

[/quote]

It was always my lower back sort of where my spinal erectors are. It was either one side or the other and it would hurt for a few weeks. I’d ice it lift heavy again and fuck it up again. It never hurt while i was deadlifting always later that night or the next day was when the pain started.

I kicked conventional deads out and have been doin sumo deads since. Have never had it happen again.

I also started doing 45 degree back raises these gave me supa pumps in my lower back/spinal erectors area. Which helped strengthen I think the weak links back there that always got strained or pulled when I lifted heavy on conventional.

I hurt my back pulling conventional once, and sumo twice all within a few months. Last summer my goal was to get a 315 deadlift conventional and I did it but my lower back was rounded and I was too fatigued. I gave up deadlifting heavy for a month after that. I switched to sumo and loved it because I was able to do it pain free. Then again I would go for a new max every week and I hurt myself.

Then during Spring I tried doing the Coan/ Philippi routine. I hurt my back again (too much volume, definately wasn’t eating enough, I was only 155 lbs). The pain has always been right above the glutes , I have no idea what it was though. Once I started stretching my hip flexors every few hours and using a foam roller I’ve been pain free. Basically my form sucked, my hip flexors were way too tight causing my lowerback to be very stiff all the time, and I tried to go for maxes every single week.

some of you guys really need to watch more vids of people deadlifting.

…ironically this is coming from a guy who apparently would hyper-extend like a mofo

Thanks xb-C for the insite. That is the same kind of pain I was having, knocks on wood, but I haven’t had it the last two times I pulled. If it continues I will switch to sumo and give that a try.

yvanehtnioj, how did you use the foam roller to help your pain. I might invest in one if it’s worthwhile. I mean I just atarted doing deads since over a year ago, stopped because of LB pain and then didn’t continue cause I was a pussy. I will say it’s always been a strong lift of mine. If I pulled with a belt and mixed grip I’m sure my max now would be fairly close to my old max. However I stopped using the belt and the mixed grip, but now am back to the mixed grip. I’m so much stronger that way. I can pull 405 x 5 after a 1.25 year lay off and a few weeks of deading under my belt, I hope my strength sky rockets soon. Andy Bolton here I come.