[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Caltene sounds like a calcium supplement[/quote]
I actually created the name a long time ago completely by random for a video game. It turns out that it’s a reference to a snack bar mentioned in the Mean Girls movie, although I did not realize that until a few years after the fact.[/quote]
Ah yes, I remember now[/quote]
Mean Girls is a great movie
they’re some type of peanut bar that have 1000+ calories in them, epidemiologists give them out to starving African kids to gain weight fast
in before someone recommends caltene bars and 5x5 squats for bodybuilding[/quote]
I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he means doing the ladder with a training max of 90%. While not exactly what Jim says, he has recommended using the ladder approach in a q&a before. Didn’t have the heavy singles or repeat the top set though. Its also something Paul Carter did while he was running 531.
I do singles after my 5/3/1 work sets. I never have a prescribed percentages for the singles though. It’s always based on how I feel for the day, kinda like RTS style.
[quote]Caltene wrote:
It would seem as if a lot of people in this forum are so conditioned to 5/3/1 that they’re afraid of trying something with real stupidity involved. Shame.[/quote]
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Caltene sounds like a calcium supplement[/quote]
I actually created the name a long time ago completely by random for a video game. It turns out that it’s a reference to a snack bar mentioned in the Mean Girls movie, although I did not realize that until a few years after the fact.[/quote]
Ah yes, I remember now[/quote]
Mean Girls is a great movie
they’re some type of peanut bar that have 1000+ calories in them, epidemiologists give them out to starving African kids to gain weight fast
in before someone recommends caltene bars and 5x5 squats for bodybuilding[/quote]
Only if you have whole milk to wash it down.[/quote]
true that
5x5 has produced more 400 lb benchers than the crossfit box near my house
[quote]Doh wrote:
I do singles after my 5/3/1 work sets. I never have a prescribed percentages for the singles though. It’s always based on how I feel for the day, kinda like RTS style.[/quote]
This is what I was getting at. In fact I think I mentioned this in the original post qhen I kayed this routine out. You don’t necessarily have to use 90%.
Also lol at the person who said you should only accept advice from peoole who are bigger/stronger.
[quote]Caltene wrote:
It would seem as if a lot of people in this forum or so conditioned to 5/3/1 that they’re afraid of trying something with real work involved. Shame.[/quote]
I do real work, I utilize the Joshstrength method which is a real work. In fact I will extend to you a challenge. I have a meet in 2 weeks so we can start it one week after that.
12 weeks your kick ass methodology vs. Me. Most poundage added to the total wins. Videos of maxes before and after using just a belt, wrist wraps, and knee sleeves. If you win I stop posting in the powerlifting forum. If I win you stop posting here.
I want you to show me your real work. We can post it up here in the forum.
[quote]Caltene wrote:
It would seem as if a lot of people in this forum or so conditioned to 5/3/1 that they’re afraid of trying something with real work involved. Shame.[/quote]
I do real work, I utilize the Joshstrength method which is a real work. In fact I will extend to you a challenge. I have a meet in 2 weeks so we can start it one week after that.
12 weeks your kick ass methodology vs. Me. Most poundage added to the total wins. Videos of maxes before and after using just a belt, wrist wraps, and knee sleeves. If you win I stop posting in the powerlifting forum. If I win you stop posting here.
I want you to show me your real work. We can post it up here in the forum.
are you in?[/quote]
If someone were to make a movie out of this, I would do it, lol.
[quote]Caltene wrote:
It would seem as if a lot of people in this forum or so conditioned to 5/3/1 that they’re afraid of trying something with real work involved. Shame.[/quote]
I do real work, I utilize the Joshstrength method which is a real work. In fact I will extend to you a challenge. I have a meet in 2 weeks so we can start it one week after that.
12 weeks your kick ass methodology vs. Me. Most poundage added to the total wins. Videos of maxes before and after using just a belt, wrist wraps, and knee sleeves. If you win I stop posting in the powerlifting forum. If I win you stop posting here.
I want you to show me your real work. We can post it up here in the forum.
are you in?[/quote]
If someone were to make a movie out of this, I would do it, lol.[/quote]
would it not make a great thread? Why argue back and forth when we can back up what we say. I am all about work and a challenge and if I lose you wont see me on here. I will back up anything I say on here. More people should settle arguments on this site this way.
Why is anyone even still talking to these idiots? The only way they could be more obvious trolls is if their names were Trolly McTrollerson and their avs were the troll face guy.
[quote]anonymous_burn wrote:
Why is anyone even still talking to these idiots? The only way they could be more obvious trolls is if their names were Trolly McTrollerson and their avs were the troll face guy.[/quote]
The reason for me is because he is giving advice that could possible injure someone. While most on this site can sift through the bullshit, there are still a large number of beginner lifters who don’t know who to listen to.
It is rare that I actually speak up against someone on here but I felt obligated to in order to prevent some kid from messing himself up.
I was a trainer in my past career and the last thing I wanted to do was fuck somebody up with bad advice. I guess it just struck a cord with me.
[quote]anonymous_burn wrote:
Why is anyone even still talking to these idiots? The only way they could be more obvious trolls is if their names were Trolly McTrollerson and their avs were the troll face guy.[/quote]
The reason for me is because he is giving advice that could possible injure someone. While most on this site can sift through the bullshit, there are still a large number of beginner lifters who don’t know who to listen to.
It is rare that I actually speak up against someone on here but I felt obligated to in order to prevent some kid from messing himself up.
I was a trainer in my past career and the last thing I wanted to do was fuck somebody up with bad advice. I guess it just struck a cord with me.[/quote]
And likewise you have struck a cord with me with opinions that you express that I happen to not agree with. I do not possess the means to provide you with credible evidence that this program will not hurt people and vice versa. To all of you other people who have decided to conduct the world grandest bullshit symphony you should know that I log on to TNation to dicuss training not to have semi-circular philosphical debates on semantics.
[quote]anonymous_burn wrote:
Why is anyone even still talking to these idiots? The only way they could be more obvious trolls is if their names were Trolly McTrollerson and their avs were the troll face guy.[/quote]
The reason for me is because he is giving advice that could possible injure someone. While most on this site can sift through the bullshit, there are still a large number of beginner lifters who don’t know who to listen to.
It is rare that I actually speak up against someone on here but I felt obligated to in order to prevent some kid from messing himself up.
I was a trainer in my past career and the last thing I wanted to do was fuck somebody up with bad advice. I guess it just struck a cord with me.[/quote]
And likewise you have struck a cord with me with opinions that you express that I happen to not agree with. I do not possess the means to provide you with credible evidence that this program will not hurt people and vice versa. To all of you other people who have decided to conduct the world grandest bullshit symphony you should know that I log on to TNation to dicuss training not to have semi-circular philosphical debates on semantics.[/quote]
Well maybe you should continue to log onto T-Nation to DISCUSS training and learn but stop giving ADVICE on things your not sure or experienced on and you will be ok.
[quote]anonymous_burn wrote:
Why is anyone even still talking to these idiots? The only way they could be more obvious trolls is if their names were Trolly McTrollerson and their avs were the troll face guy.[/quote]
The reason for me is because he is giving advice that could possible injure someone. While most on this site can sift through the bullshit, there are still a large number of beginner lifters who don’t know who to listen to.
It is rare that I actually speak up against someone on here but I felt obligated to in order to prevent some kid from messing himself up.
I was a trainer in my past career and the last thing I wanted to do was fuck somebody up with bad advice. I guess it just struck a cord with me.[/quote]
And likewise you have struck a cord with me with opinions that you express that I happen to not agree with. I do not possess the means to provide you with credible evidence that this program will not hurt people and vice versa. To all of you other people who have decided to conduct the world grandest bullshit symphony you should know that I log on to TNation to dicuss training not to have semi-circular philosphical debates on semantics.[/quote]
Well maybe you should continue to log onto T-Nation to DISCUSS training and learn but stop giving ADVICE on things your not sure or experienced on.
Bangggkk…wrong again…by what criteria can I possibly use to prove my statements are true or false? A video does not work as criteria. In fact there is no possible way anybody can prove anything over the web.
[quote]casperthegst wrote:
By the way 375 is 75% of 500.[/quote]
Your recommendation had nothing do with 75% for 5 reps it was 85% for 5+ reps which 425.[/quote]
Apparently you do not know to use a training max at 90% of your real max. Now that I think about it you could actuslly use your real max and not do amrap. This would essentially be westide max effort method of course you would have to change exercises each cycle but I digress.[/quote]
If we want to be all technical about it, 85% of 90% =/= 75%. 0.85x0.9 = 76.5% of actual 1RM. While this is much more reasonable, you did not make this clear initially, which is just as bad advice if no one freaking gets it. I still wouldn’t recommend anyone take training advice based on 1RM percentages from someone who doesn’t understand basic mathematical concepts.
[quote]casperthegst wrote:
By the way 375 is 75% of 500.[/quote]
Your recommendation had nothing do with 75% for 5 reps it was 85% for 5+ reps which 425.[/quote]
Apparently you do not know to use a training max at 90% of your real max. Now that I think about it you could actuslly use your real max and not do amrap. This would essentially be westide max effort method of course you would have to change exercises each cycle but I digress.[/quote]
If we want to be all technical about it, 85% of 90% =/= 75%. 0.85x0.9 = 76.5% of actual 1RM. While this is much more reasonable, you did not make this clear initially, which is just as bad advice if no one freaking gets it. I still wouldn’t recommend anyone take training advice based on 1RM percentages from someone who doesn’t understand basic mathematical concepts.[/quote]
This great advice for anyone who understands 531 and is generally understood that you use a training max. I believe I stated that if there were any questions to ask in the original post. I will be sure and try to include every detail I can if I post in the future.