I was talking about the people you see doing these in the gym, lol
with ya there, I start dead hang, but I like to lean back, and try and drive my elboes into my sides, the bar ends up around my eyes, feel my lats beter this way, the last extra foot just tires my arms out,
I’m workin on pic, just gotta get the old lady to shave my back, hopfuly tonight (foreplay)
I hear ya, mines been in Florida on a golfing trip so my back hair has gotten a little out of hand as of late.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
In fact, on the topic of heavy DB rows, this is the product I use
http://www.westcarybarbell.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=152
It is definitely functional, but if I could buy all over again, I’d love to pick this up
http://www.southcarolinabarbell.com/Olympic-Dumbbell-Handle-Equip18/
It is a cut down texas power bar. How sweet is that.[/quote]
ah I saw that db handle in some of your posts before. I’ll definitely pick it up or build my own once I get tired of tbars/bb rows and am a bit less broke.
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
In fact, on the topic of heavy DB rows, this is the product I use
http://www.westcarybarbell.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=152
It is definitely functional, but if I could buy all over again, I’d love to pick this up
http://www.southcarolinabarbell.com/Olympic-Dumbbell-Handle-Equip18/
It is a cut down texas power bar. How sweet is that.[/quote]
ah I saw that db handle in some of your posts before. I’ll definitely pick it up or build my own once I get tired of tbars/bb rows and am a bit less broke. [/quote]
I always forget about this guy’s site, but he has an even better deal
T3hPwnisher thanks for posting that site, my wallet is getting lighter just browsing the pages. Good find!
nice, when I get the $ and need the bar I might ask him to make DB handles with a long loading area so I could use 25s or 10s. I like that these guys are charging fair prices for PL stuff that is just welded and coated.
do you not find you get same feel from anything like DB rows. I mean the handles don’t cost much, but there has to be a differnt way, like meadow rows, single handed low pully row, when you stand in front of it(sprinter stance)hits the same spot for me as DB rows(low lat) and I use a 4ft strap on T bar’s so I can rotate my hands, it just seems DB’s never used to go over 100lbs, and there was lot a big backs in 70’s and 80’s(Yates and Haney)with no world record DB lifts. 2cents
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
do you not find you get same feel from anything like DB rows. I mean the handles don’t cost much, but there has to be a differnt way, like meadow rows, single handed low pully row, when you stand in front of it(sprinter stance)hits the same spot for me as DB rows(low lat) and I use a 4ft strap on T bar’s so I can rotate my hands, it just seems DB’s never used to go over 100lbs, and there was lot a big backs in 70’s and 80’s(Yates and Haney)with no world record DB lifts. 2cents[/quote]
It took a while for me to adjust to the design. You can’t do the rows on a bench anymore, you have to support your off hand on some equipment instead, like this
But otherwise, it still will murder your lats.
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
thumpin traps steely, what do ya do for those ?[/quote]
Thanks, man, that’s the nicest thing someone could say to me right now 
I perceive my traps as a huge weakness and have been hitting them twice a week for several months.
Shrugs. Trap bar one day, BB shrugs another day.
[quote]tattoo’d’popeye wrote:
T3hPwnisher thanks for posting that site, my wallet is getting lighter just browsing the pages. Good find![/quote]
Glad you enjoyed it. I too am a gym equipment addict, haha.
Its easier for me to spend money when you know its going to small business like Black Widow and their stuff is priced reasonable as well.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
do you not find you get same feel from anything like DB rows. I mean the handles don’t cost much, but there has to be a differnt way, like meadow rows, single handed low pully row, when you stand in front of it(sprinter stance)hits the same spot for me as DB rows(low lat) and I use a 4ft strap on T bar’s so I can rotate my hands, it just seems DB’s never used to go over 100lbs, and there was lot a big backs in 70’s and 80’s(Yates and Haney)with no world record DB lifts. 2cents[/quote]
It took a while for me to adjust to the design. You can’t do the rows on a bench anymore, you have to support your off hand on some equipment instead, like this
But otherwise, it still will murder your lats.[/quote]
Kroc is a monster.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I always forget about this guy’s site, but he has an even better deal
http://www.blackwidowtg.com/product_p/bar-rowhandle.htm[/quote]
I bought my sled from him and can vouch for the quality of his work.
james
[quote]Mike__Madden wrote:
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
I saw that you’re benching around 280.
What’re you using on the barbell rows, pulldowns, deadlifts, and cleans?[/quote]
for bb rows I do about 165 for 4x6 and 145 for 3x10 but I can’t do those anymore because I was diagnosed with a herniated disc yesterday.[/quote]
I hate to be Billy Big Picture (Bobby Buzzkill’s half-brother), but this is absolutely a factor in why you got injured. A 100-ish pound discrepancy between your bench and rowing strength left you in a position where your back was weak, never mind “not big.”
At your age - 16, for the folks posting here who were unaware - you do not want to start racking up injuries yet, especially anything disc-related since those can become chronic and something you end up dealing with/having to work around for years down the line.
I think it might be best if you spent the next month or two letting your back heal 100%, rather than worrying about training for size. Follow your doc’s advice and basically doing everything you can to not only not make it worse, but to encourage healing (training what you can without doing harm, rehab strength work for the back, mobility/stretching, etc.).
Consider using the time to also drop 10-15 pounds (mostly by reeling your diet in a little bit and with some regular cardio). That shouldn’t hurt your strength much at all, it’ll set you up for better gains after, and it’ll put you back into a healthy place to train hard in the long term.
This thread equals badass.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This thread equals badass.[/quote]
I’m going to think about you when I do shrugs today.
and steely
no homo
someone post that picture of the white guy and black guy doing the handshake of peace, that’d represent steelyd and prof x’s traps meeting
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
[quote]Mike__Madden wrote:
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
I saw that you’re benching around 280.
What’re you using on the barbell rows, pulldowns, deadlifts, and cleans?[/quote]
for bb rows I do about 165 for 4x6 and 145 for 3x10 but I can’t do those anymore because I was diagnosed with a herniated disc yesterday.[/quote]
I hate to be Billy Big Picture (Bobby Buzzkill’s half-brother), but this is absolutely a factor in why you got injured. A 100-ish pound discrepancy between your bench and rowing strength left you in a position where your back was weak, never mind “not big.”
At your age - 16, for the folks posting here who were unaware - you do not want to start racking up injuries yet, especially anything disc-related since those can become chronic and something you end up dealing with/having to work around for years down the line.
I think it might be best if you spent the next month or two letting your back heal 100%, rather than worrying about training for size. Follow your doc’s advice and basically doing everything you can to not only not make it worse, but to encourage healing (training what you can without doing harm, rehab strength work for the back, mobility/stretching, etc.).
Consider using the time to also drop 10-15 pounds (mostly by reeling your diet in a little bit and with some regular cardio). That shouldn’t hurt your strength much at all, it’ll set you up for better gains after, and it’ll put you back into a healthy place to train hard in the long term.[/quote]
While I definitely agree with the advice about the training…why tell him to lose 10-15lbs? He is 16. He could grow into 10-15lbs by next month.
I am very reluctant to tell TEENAGERS who are into serious weight lifting to lose weight unless truly over-fat or obese.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
While I definitely agree with the advice about the training…why tell him to lose 10-15lbs? He is 16. He could grow into 10-15lbs by next month.
I am very reluctant to tell TEENAGERS who are into serious weight lifting to lose weight unless truly over-fat or obese.[/quote]
The dude’s 6’0", 230, and “not lean” (I don’t recall the exact phrase, but it was something along those lines). He could drop 10 or 15 pounds and still be well ahead of the curve as probably one of the biggest, strongest kids in his grade.
I’m not saying the kid should do a hardcore summertime cut, just drop a bit of bodyfat which shouldn’t take a ton of effort. Also, it would give him a target to shoot for while he’s healing and doing the boring rehab work.