Best Place To Hit Someone

[quote]Sikkario wrote:
Better yet,how many fights have you seen were people don’t close their fists??? If your hand is open…you’ll be better off using an open hand strike or elbows.

How about, every boxing match? Do you think boxers, hold their fists as tight as they possibly can in their gloves? And those dudes, can’t grapple, can’t go for arm control or small joint manipulation. I have no idea, why anyone is arguing for hold you fist fully tight and walk around like that, that makes no sense.

I think you’re deeply mislead John Wayne. And you’re frat fights, where you guys have 5 year old girly punch matches where you stand in front of eachother and trade licks will easily crumble against someone who knows what their doing and doesn’t go for the old club hand technique you seem to espouse so much.[/quote]

Look here…any idiot knows that you can’t make a complete fist in a boxing glove. No one…including myself…is saying to walk around with a CLENCHED fist trying to pop your eyes out of ya skull. I simply argued that when you’re actually in a fight…not before…but IN…most people will make a closed fist. FOLLOW ME: not a TIGHTLY clenched fist,but a CLOSED fist. See the difference. That was my only argument other than the mental aspect I mentioned. I understand the premise of keeping a RELAXED fist until you actually strike. Hell,that goes for any strike. Anybody knows you will fuck yourself if you’re all tensed up in any confrontation.

You took the John Wayne approach my friend…by jumping the gun and assuming you know me. So get back at me when you’ve studied instructed Combat Hapkido for 10 years,worked maximum security in a prison, and currently have abused shins from 2 hour Muay Thai sessions 4 times a week. Then maybe we MIGHT have something to talk about. I’m cool if ya get to know me. Until then…fuck off. This is not Sherdog. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Jay-B wrote:
Punch 'em in the ovary

Yeah, but which ovary dood?

Left or right?

Bushy[/quote]

It’s a quote from the movie “Anchorman”

Left ovary.

g-g-g-G-Unit.

If anyone wants any PDF Martial Arts books, I have o, maybe a billion of them.

I got a good one, on striking zones, so if you’re looking for the “best place to hit someone.” For real, and not just spamming, I can send you a good text on the good spots on a person to strike.

Read anything by Animal Macyoung. Good shit.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Jay-B wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
Jay-B wrote:
Punch 'em in the ovary

Yeah, but which ovary dood?

Left or right?

Bushy

It’s a quote from the movie “Anchorman”

Ah.

“I see” said the blind man.

shuffles off

Bushy[/quote]

You’re far from blind Bushy. Everyone on this site knows that

[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:

This is how real men fight.

DB[/quote]

Is that Balbos?

[quote]Sikkario wrote:

Human bones are 80x as strong as concrete unless your pounding away at his forehead full force and driving your hand into the face like a club, there is very little change of busting your bones if you are punching correctly.

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What a load of shit, if you’ve never broken your hand hitting someone in the skull without gloves you obviously don’t hit very hard.

The density of normal concrete is 2400 kg/m3

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/KatrinaJones.shtml

The density of compact bone is surprisingly constant through out life at about 1900 kg/m3

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/AnnaYarusskaya.shtml

[quote]belligerent wrote:
Isn’t the throat off limits? If it’s just a regular brawl and you’re not actually trying to kill the guy? Hitting someone in the throat could have far worse consequences than losing an honest fight.[/quote]

What the fuck is a “regular brawl?” What is an “honest fight?” If you’re drunk and horsing around with your brother, then no, you should not punch him in the throat. That’s not a fight.

Why the fuck would you get involved in a fight if you didn’t feel like life, limb or eyesight was threatened? When people get into fights, people get injured and go to jail. If your safety isn’t seriously threatened, you should never put yourself in that kind of situation. If your safety is threatened, you should do everything in your power to incapacitate the other guy, including punching him in the throat, kicking him in the groin, etc., and you should do it fast, before he pulls out a weapon.

[quote]Sikkario wrote:
I’m pretty sure it started with the first humans and it has survived this long, so I’m pretty sure it’s natural.

I think early humans wrestled more actually.

I’m not saying there isn’t a place for making fists, but if that’s you’re main concern when fighting you probably suck.

The fist doesn’t reall come into play until you’re about to jack someone in the face.

How the fuck do you thrown someone, or swat their strikes out, if you are mister clinched fist.

I always think of some uber nerd in middle school clinching his fists really tight and shaking them at you when I’m reading this thread.

If I get this right, the majority of you all are advocating, squeezing your hands real tight, and saying PUT EM UP. John Wayne style. That’s retarded, and ineffective.

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How long does it take you to unclench a fist and turn it into a grabbing, hooking instrument? I can do it several times within one second. I can actually switch from a clenched fist into an open fist, get this, while my hand is moving forward - I shit you not!!! I guess I’m some kind of freak.

Ultimately, the best way to strike depends on the situation and the target area. Sometimes finger strikes are best (eye jabs), sometimes open hand (ear slaps, drags, etc), sometimes closed fist, sometimes palm strikes, etc. and being able to employ any of them is your best bet.

DB

[quote]Weasel42 wrote:
belligerent wrote:
Isn’t the throat off limits? If it’s just a regular brawl and you’re not actually trying to kill the guy? Hitting someone in the throat could have far worse consequences than losing an honest fight.

What the fuck is a “regular brawl?” What is an “honest fight?” If you’re drunk and horsing around with your brother, then no, you should not punch him in the throat. That’s not a fight.

Why the fuck would you get involved in a fight if you didn’t feel like life, limb or eyesight was threatened? When people get into fights, people get injured and go to jail. If your safety isn’t seriously threatened, you should never put yourself in that kind of situation. If your safety is threatened, you should do everything in your power to incapacitate the other guy, including punching him in the throat, kicking him in the groin, etc., and you should do it fast, before he pulls out a weapon.[/quote]

You are allowed to use the “appropriate level of force” in respect to your situation.

That means if someone hits you, you can’t shoot him. Or knife him. Or rip his throat out.

I wish the world was that black and white my friend, but violence is the least clear of anything… it’s causes, it’s ends, it’s accomplishments… ridiculous really that it’s so ingrained into us…

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Read anything by Animal Macyoung. Good shit.

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Read it all.

Pee on him.

Then you can attack him from behind when he goes to change his clothes. You should be able to finish before he even knows what’s going on.

Yep, that’s the best way to rape your friend (that was the question, right?)

Upper cut someone in the nose and drive their nose into their brain

just a guess

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Sikkario wrote:

Human bones are 80x as strong as concrete unless your pounding away at his forehead full force and driving your hand into the face like a club, there is very little change of busting your bones if you are punching correctly.

What a load of shit, if you’ve never broken your hand hitting someone in the skull without gloves you obviously don’t hit very hard.

The density of normal concrete is 2400 kg/m3

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/KatrinaJones.shtml

The density of compact bone is surprisingly constant through out life at about 1900 kg/m3

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/AnnaYarusskaya.shtml

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I’ve broke facial bones(not mine) and caused stitches, maybe your striking technique is shitty. If you do grip work(or probably just heavy lifting) your bone density in your hands will increase so they will become stronger and less prone to injury.

On a more serious note, what you should do is spend 45 minutes in the gym doing jumping jacks then put your hoody over your head and do shadowboxing for another hour and a half.

Density doesnt equal strength. Lead is more dense than steel. Which one is stronger?
I might have to get out my freaking chemistry book to figure out that doozy.

and your bones do adapt to stress, fucking neanderthals had right hands that had bigger/more dense bones than their left because of how they used them. SO is mine and I am pretty damn sure im not a neaderthal. its a common occurance to adapt to stresses.

Old ladies can lift weights(light ones to most of us I’d hope) and improve their bone strength and density but genetics does play a role.

[quote]rander wrote:
Density doesnt equal strength. Lead is more dense than steel. Which one is stronger?
I might have to get out my freaking chemistry book to figure out that doozy.

and your bones do adapt to stress, fucking neanderthals had right hands that had bigger/more dense bones than their left because of how they used them. SO is mine and I am pretty damn sure im not a neaderthal. its a common occurance to adapt to stresses.

Old ladies can lift weights(light ones to most of us I’d hope) and improve their bone strength and density but genetics does play a role.[/quote]

And steel is three times the density of aluminum, which is stronger? There are many other factors, such as ductility and molecular structure that determine strength. All I was pointing out is that your assertion that bone was 80 times stronger than concrete was without merit.

Those blocks they use in breaking competitions are cement, not concrete. If they used concrete every one of them would walk away with broken arms or hands

Bone density has a direct correlation to bone strength. The denser your bones, the stronger they are.

I also said if you hit someone in the SKULL, you will break your hand, I’m not talking about the orbital bone.

I think you’ve been watching too many kung fu flicks, do you also have the death touch.

Throat punching is a bad idea unless you have no way out of a really bad situation. For most people, it is not a good idea to have maiming and killing techniques as part of your primary game plan.

One of the most one sided fights I have ever seen was a kid who had karate training who used to tell me about how he would handle a fight. He would say he was going to kick out the knee, gouge out the eyes, punch in the throat and all these nasty, viscious things if he got into a fight.

One day he did get into a real fight, right in front of me. The other guy worked this kid over without him throwing as much as one punch.

The reason why the kid didn’t defend himself was his whole game plan relied upon techniques that he really didn’t want to use.

There are a lot of people who will say they would maim or kill someone without thinking about it, but when the time comes they don’t have the neccessary background to follow through.

Galic Gun? I’m just saying, if it were me I would use that first. If that doesn’t incinerate them, them maybe a final flash. That should about do it. (his name doesn’t happen to be Goku does it if so disregard my post)

V