Can you shin scrape someone wearing pants?
in the chin or the balls
or in the neck with a knife
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
A big mistake people make when punching with the fist is striking with the index and middle-finger knuckles. This is a wrong because they are unsupported. Use instead, the pinky and ring-finger knuckles as they are supported by the ulna (the minor bone in the forearm). I would also practice striking hard surfaces to toughen up that part of the fist so that when the time comes you won’t be taken by surprise.
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That’s absolute bullshit.
Those last two knuckles break so easily that hitting with them is asking for a shattered hand.
In fact, the only knuckle on my right hand that isn’t broken is my index finger’s. It depends upon the school of thought, of course, but it’s my take that hitting with the last two is as incorrect as you can be.
As for toughening the knuckles, I do knuckle pushups on cement so as to deaden the nerves and create hardened callouses.
Some folks hit a makirawa, others will hit a heavy bag with out gloves, but I have heard of too many problems that result in the long run because of calcium deposits, etc. to take a chance doing something like that.
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For a more deadly effect, I would take out the knee of the opponent with in instep stomp or a low kick to the outside of the knee inward toward the other knee. If the opponent falls stomp him in the throat with your heel. Beware, his arms have not been immobilized so he could still grapple you to the ground. If you strike the face in the immediate instance that you go to place a knee kick this might mitigate the opponents arms as he will most likely grab his struck face in surprise. If this is your plan of attack be prepared to follow through and take him out quick[/quote]
Christ, how many of you motherfuckers are really trying to kill someone? How many people are remotely prepared for that and should even be talking about a combat situation?
Wow.
[quote]sen say wrote:
Can you shin scrape someone wearing pants?[/quote]
Yes, although if they’re wearing shorts it will likely hurt more.
I bet half the dudes in this thread, close their fists when their fighting lol.
It doesn’t matter what knuckles you use. Keep yoru hand open and close it on impact.
The force of closing your hands, and whatever knuckles hit amplifies that damage incredibly.
Here’s an example of someone who died after one punch. Happened right where I grew up. Something to think about when someone in a bar gets lippy.
[quote]Sikkario wrote:
I bet half the dudes in this thread, close their fists when their fighting lol.
It doesn’t matter what knuckles you use. Keep yoru hand open and close it on impact.
The force of closing your hands, and whatever knuckles hit amplifies that damage incredibly.[/quote]
How the heck do you time that? Sounds like you’d break your fingers most of the time when fighting a moving opponent. Is there a particular martial art that teaches this?
[quote]HoratioSandoval wrote:
Sikkario wrote:
I bet half the dudes in this thread, close their fists when their fighting lol.
It doesn’t matter what knuckles you use. Keep yoru hand open and close it on impact.
The force of closing your hands, and whatever knuckles hit amplifies that damage incredibly.
How the heck do you time that? Sounds like you’d break your fingers most of the time when fighting a moving opponent. Is there a particular martial art that teaches this?[/quote]
Some of them advise keeping your fist “loose”, because keeping a tense fist all the time wastes energy.
I don’t know about keeping the hand all the way open though.
[quote]Sikkario wrote:
I bet half the dudes in this thread, close their fists when their fighting lol.
It doesn’t matter what knuckles you use. Keep yoru hand open and close it on impact.
The force of closing your hands, and whatever knuckles hit amplifies that damage incredibly.[/quote]
I see you have never hit anyone.
General rule of thumb: if you have to ask for advice on where/how to hit someone over the internet, you should be trying your hardest to NOT get in a fight.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
That’s absolute bullshit. [/quote]
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Yeah, something happened and I wasn’t able to finish my post…you’ll notice the unfinished paragraph. I was trying to be facetious.
I was going to finish with, “What would Chuck Norris do?”
1.boxing gym
2.cheap bar
3.football match
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
That’s absolute bullshit.
Yeah, something happened and I wasn’t able to finish my post…you’ll notice the unfinished paragraph. I was trying to be facetious.
I was going to finish with, “What would Chuck Norris do?”[/quote]
Ahh my bad. Couldn’t tell.
Here. Bas Rutten leads you through it blow by blow…
Goddamn it he’s hilarious.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Here. Bas Rutten leads you through it blow by blow…
Goddamn it he’s hilarious.
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Nice! Great catch.
Bas Rutten is fucking great! he should be on TV.
[quote]dk44 wrote:
OctoberGirl I really like your new pic, if I had a De Lorean I would hook up with you in the backseat. [/quote]
Hahahahaha…the back seat.
DB
There is no better move than a massive head butt!
The crowd gasps, “Ohhhhh” at the site
[quote]Some of them advise keeping your fist “loose”, because keeping a tense fist all the time wastes energy.
I don’t know about keeping the hand all the way open though.[/quote]
I don’t mean having your hand fully extended by open, I mean like loose, not clinched, so you could grab if need be. Having your hand super tight, is retarded amateur fighter shit. Wastes energy, and you’re more likely to hurt your hand, you’re hand is more like a talon not like a club. You want to close it, and translate the force of your whole bod into you forearm and wrist and then squeeze on impact, to concentrate extra energy of closing as you hit.
Also, if you’re hand is loose and not gripped you can, grab, parry and grapple.
I’ve never been involved in any martial art or anything, that involves, having some kind of club fist.
Maybe, TKD, or Karate, I’ve never taken those.
In boxing and hapkido, what I’ve taken, they both don’t encourage you to hold fists, at least where I’ve trained, you clinch and close before or upon impact but don’t carry the closed fist.
I’m a licensed boxer, I’ve been kicked out of two fraternities for fighting and got expelled from high school for fighting. I’m not saying that to be a hardass, but I’ve had my share of fights.
This is common fighting knowledge, my brother showed me before I ever took hapkido. But in hapkido we do the same thing. What do you mean how do you time it? How do you punch? Do you form a fist and throw or somehting, talk about a dead give away, the guy clinches a fist, is a dead give away for anyone who is observant to kick you in the balls.
You just throw the hand loose and close while in transit, when nearing your target, you close as hard as you can, and try to curl your fist and hand into pin pointing as much force possible into whatever spot you’re trying to hit.
Unless you have some giganto hands, where you’re hitting the dude, is pretty irrellevant as far as your knuckles go. You’re just trying to pinpoint as much force onto him as possible, from your hole body through your hand and into his temple, face, jaw whatever.
I don’t understand how you’d break your fingers, I’ve only broken my hand once and it was from using my hand like some kind of a dumbass club on the back of someone’s head, instead of using a palm strike on the hard region or better yet just putting him in a guillotine (that was dumb of me I was only 14 tho). Human bones are 80x as strong as concrete unless your pounding away at his forehead full force and driving your hand into the face like a club, there is very little change of busting your bones if you are punching correctly.
Throw from the body, full force, make the fist in transit, close as hard as you can on impact, when you’ve translated the energy, pull off, repeat. You’re hand will get swollen, but broken, not in my experience. I don’t have every big hands either.
[quote]Sikkario wrote:
I bet half the dudes in this thread, close their fists when their fighting lol.
It doesn’t matter what knuckles you use. Keep yoru hand open and close it on impact.
The force of closing your hands, and whatever knuckles hit amplifies that damage incredibly.
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How many fights have you been in? Better yet,how many fights have you seen were people don’t close their fists??? If your hand is open…you’ll be better off using an open hand strike or elbows.
Its natural to make a fist. In fact,that brings up another point…just think of someone who has trained years and years in ANY form of self defense or martial art. Lets say that person is a bad ass in sparring,training,etc.
Said person has never been in a fight…at least in uncontrolled environment. Its a late night and he gets in a confrontation outside an adult movie shop(of all the places…why!) and in that instant he forgets every damn thing he’s ever learned and human habit,instinct,or whatever the fuck you wanna call it kicks in.
He makes a fist…beats the shit out of the dude…fight lasts maybe 30 seconds. Adrenaline wears off…then you realize that you’ve broken your fucking left hand and big toe…but don’t even remember what the fuck you did. Anyways,enough of my cough best friends story.
The point(I know,finally) is that you don’t know what the fuck you’ll do in a situation…especially when you don’t have the mental for it…and trust me,you’ll never be as prepared as you think.