Berardi Phone Consultation?

[quote]chriscarani wrote:
<<< I installed my own floors, fix everything my self, but when it comes to computers, I have zero patience. Training and nutrition can be of the same confusing and utterly frustrating nature as computers are for others, and they like me would rather pay someone to get their machine running optimally. Now I could hire an IT guy, drop $200 and be on my way with specific advice on my particular problem and situation, or I could withstand hours of bombardment by knuckle head computer geeks on a forum telling me I need to learn the basics on how to set up my computer. Just another way to look at it.
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The point being made though is how much good are lessons on high end performance computing going to do somebody who doesn’t know what the start button does? I understand your point, but the overwhelmingly vast majority of guys trying to run before they can walk like this are not going real far in this game. It’s just not the attitude that wins. I don’t mean to be an ass, but thats how it is.

Nothing to do with Dr. Berardi at all.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
chriscarani wrote:
<<< I installed my own floors, fix everything my self, but when it comes to computers, I have zero patience. Training and nutrition can be of the same confusing and utterly frustrating nature as computers are for others, and they like me would rather pay someone to get their machine running optimally. Now I could hire an IT guy, drop $200 and be on my way with specific advice on my particular problem and situation, or I could withstand hours of bombardment by knuckle head computer geeks on a forum telling me I need to learn the basics on how to set up my computer. Just another way to look at it.

The point being made though is how much good are lessons on high end performance computing going to do somebody who doesn’t know what the start button does? I understand your point, but the overwhelmingly vast majority of guys trying to run before they can walk like this are not going real far in this game. It’s just not the attitude that wins. I don’t mean to be an ass, but thats how it is.

Nothing to do with Dr. Berardi at all.[/quote]

Also, if this wasn’t the case, those trying to jump the gun and act like they don’t need to spend a few years on the basics would be showing more results than they are. Where are the extremely muscular freaks worried this much about “the routine of the week”?

This guy is a classic example too. He says he has all this knowledge already, but isn’t progressing well. It doesn’t even occur to him that even more knowledge isn’t the answer. I swear if I ever hit the lottery I’m going to pick one of these guys and fly to wherever they are on my dime and demonstrate how simple the first few years of effective training and eating really are.

If the OP is still there. You either ain’t workin, ain’t eatin or both. You will no doubt swear this isn’t the case and profess to us the magnitude of your methods, but… alas… you are wrong.

Okay just so that everyone will stop with the the whole I don’t know how to eat or lift I will post my diet and training for today.

Meal 1:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup of egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/2 cup breakstone’s live bacteria cottage cheese. 1/2 grapefruit, 1/2 cup old fashioned oats, 1/4 cup almonds.

Meal 2: pre w/o
1 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine

Meal 3: post w/o
2 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine, 1 cup quick oats, 1 cup strawberries.

Meal 4:
a salad consisting of 1 can chunk white albacore tuna, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/4 cup almonds, romaine lettuce, broccli, carrots, balsamic vinegar.

Meal 5:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese. 1 cup green beans, 1/2 cup strawberries, 1/4 cup almonds.
Meal 6: 6 oz chicken breast, 1 cup mixed vegetables, 2 tbls natural peanut butter.
Meal 7:
1 1/2 cup of the breakstone’s cottage cheese 2 tbls of natural peanut butter.

plus 1 fish oil tablet with every meal and a multivitamin at breakfast.

Full body workout
2-3 sets of 6-8 for most exercises
Superset: Incline bench/ barbell rows
Superset: military press/ wide chins
Back squats.
walking lunges.
Superset: wide grip upright rows/ weighted dips
Superset: supinated pullups/close grip bench.
superset:calve raises/ barbell shrugs

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
Okay just so that everyone will stop with the the whole I don’t know how to eat or lift I will post my diet and training for today.

Meal 1:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup of egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/2 cup breakstone’s live bacteria cottage cheese. 1/2 grapefruit, 1/2 cup old fashioned oats, 1/4 cup almonds.

Meal 2: pre w/o
1 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine

Meal 3: post w/o
2 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine, 1 cup quick oats, 1 cup strawberries.

Meal 4:
a salad consisting of 1 can chunk white albacore tuna, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/4 cup almonds, romaine lettuce, broccli, carrots, balsamic vinegar.

Meal 5:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese. 1 cup green beans, 1/2 cup strawberries, 1/4 cup almonds.

Meal 6:
1 1/2 cup of the breakstone’s cottage cheese 2 tbls of natural peanut butter.

plus 1 fish oil tablet with every meal and a multivitamin at breakfast.

Full body workout
2-3 sets of 6-8 for most exercises
Superset: Incline bench/ barbell rows
Superset: military press/ wide chins
Back squats.
walking lunges.
Superset: wide grip upright rows/ weighted dips
Superset: supinated pullups/close grip bench.
superset:calve raises/ barbell shrugs[/quote]

I think you missed the point. There are people who make a shit load more progress without even knowing what they ate because they understand how to push past their comfort zone in the gym and to eat enough to gain body weight. No one even needed to know your entire caloric breakdown. It doesn’t mean much IF YOU AREN’T GROWING LIKE A WEED FROM IT.

Why 1/2 a cup of egge whites and not simply several whole eggs?

You eat like someone trying to diet down.

If you guys have any comments on my diet or workout please let me know.

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
Okay just so that everyone will stop with the the whole I don’t know how to eat or lift I will post my diet and training for today.

Meal 1:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup of egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/2 cup breakstone’s live bacteria cottage cheese. 1/2 grapefruit, 1/2 cup old fashioned oats, 1/4 cup almonds.

Meal 2: pre w/o
1 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine

Meal 3: post w/o
2 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine, 1 cup quick oats, 1 cup strawberries.

Meal 4:
a salad consisting of 1 can chunk white albacore tuna, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/4 cup almonds, romaine lettuce, broccli, carrots, balsamic vinegar.

Meal 5:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese. 1 cup green beans, 1/2 cup strawberries, 1/4 cup almonds.

Meal 6:
1 1/2 cup of the breakstone’s cottage cheese 2 tbls of natural peanut butter.

plus 1 fish oil tablet with every meal and a multivitamin at breakfast.

Full body workout
2-3 sets of 6-8 for most exercises
Superset: Incline bench/ barbell rows
Superset: military press/ wide chins
Back squats.
walking lunges.
Superset: wide grip upright rows/ weighted dips
Superset: supinated pullups/close grip bench.
superset:calve raises/ barbell shrugs[/quote]

I rest my case.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

I rest my case.[/quote]

But…but it’s like really complicated…and I eat .5 cups of egg whites and everything!!

Does someone truly need “keep it simple, stupid” spelled out so specifically that it is no longer simple?

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
matt_t2004 wrote:
Okay just so that everyone will stop with the the whole I don’t know how to eat or lift I will post my diet and training for today.

Meal 1:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup of egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/2 cup breakstone’s live bacteria cottage cheese. 1/2 grapefruit, 1/2 cup old fashioned oats, 1/4 cup almonds.

Meal 2: pre w/o
1 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine

Meal 3: post w/o
2 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine, 1 cup quick oats, 1 cup strawberries.

Meal 4:
a salad consisting of 1 can chunk white albacore tuna, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/4 cup almonds, romaine lettuce, broccli, carrots, balsamic vinegar.

Meal 5:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese. 1 cup green beans, 1/2 cup strawberries, 1/4 cup almonds.

Meal 6:
1 1/2 cup of the breakstone’s cottage cheese 2 tbls of natural peanut butter.

plus 1 fish oil tablet with every meal and a multivitamin at breakfast.

Full body workout
2-3 sets of 6-8 for most exercises
Superset: Incline bench/ barbell rows
Superset: military press/ wide chins
Back squats.
walking lunges.
Superset: wide grip upright rows/ weighted dips
Superset: supinated pullups/close grip bench.
superset:calve raises/ barbell shrugs

I rest my case.[/quote]

please explain

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
If you guys have any comments on my diet or workout please let me know.[/quote]

Try taking what you eat now and doubling it. Then you’ll probably see the gains you’re looking for.

Actually, maybe tripling it would be better.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
<<< Why 1/2 a cup of egge whites and not simply several whole eggs? >>>[/quote]

Why not some meat? Fish? Chicken? Why the almost total avoidance of fat outside of “tablets” (this here is very telling) and yes some whole eggs. This reads like an early 90’s fat free Fitness America Pageant lab experiment.

Why whole body training if you aren’t gaining? I suspect your fear of fat has you trying to train to lose because you read, probably here that full body routines burn more fat. They may, but at least in your case this move everything while not REALLY pushing anything method is not working.

For all your “knowledge” you haven’t demonstrated the intuition to apprehend this simple state of affairs and adjust accordingly.

You are the quintessential poster boy for why the hell so few people are progressing these days. Head stuffed full of information and body going nowhere. Don’t take me as picking on you. You are not alone. I’ll say it again. I started with nothing.

No internet, no books, just a bunch of equipment and I really think guys like you would be better off like that than being blitzkrieged with mountains of resources like it is now.

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
Meal 1:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup of egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/2 cup breakstone’s live bacteria cottage cheese. 1/2 grapefruit, 1/2 cup old fashioned oats, 1/4 cup almonds.
Meal 2: pre w/o
1 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine
Meal 3: post w/o
2 scoop whey, 1 tsp bcaa, 1 tsp glutamine, 1 cup quick oats, 1 cup strawberries.
Meal 4:
a salad consisting of 1 can chunk white albacore tuna, 1/4 cup fat free cheese, 1/4 cup almonds, romaine lettuce, broccli, carrots, balsamic vinegar.
Meal 5:
1 whole egg, 1/2 cup egg whites, 1/4 cup fat free cheese. 1 cup green beans, 1/2 cup strawberries, 1/4 cup almonds.
Meal 6: 6 oz chicken breast, 1 cup mixed vegetables, 2 tbls natural peanut butter.
Meal 7:
1 1/2 cup of the breakstone’s cottage cheese 2 tbls of natural peanut butter.

plus 1 fish oil tablet with every meal and a multivitamin at breakfast.[/quote]

I’m honestly surprised you even weigh 190 lbs with that diet. If your goal is to gain muscle mass you need to eat more than you are, maybe much much more.

As far as your lifting routine goes…just listing that stuff doesn’t mean shit, what matters is that you’re busting your ass with whatever workout you choose.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
<<< Why 1/2 a cup of egge whites and not simply several whole eggs? >>>

Why not some meat? Fish? Chicken? Why the almost total avoidance of fat outside of “tablets” (this here is very telling) and yes some whole eggs. This reads like an early 90’s fat free Fitness America Pageant lab experiment.

Why whole body training if you aren’t gaining? I suspect your fear of fat has you trying to train to lose because you read, probably here that full body routines burn more fat. They may, but at least in your case this move everything while not REALLY pushing anything method is not working.

For all your “knowledge” you haven’t demonstrated the intuition to apprehend this simple state of affairs and adjust accordingly.

You are the quintessential poster boy for why the hell so few people are progressing these days. Head stuffed full of information and body going nowhere. Don’t take me as picking on you. You are not alone. I’ll say it again. I started with nothing.

No internet, no books, just a bunch of equipment and I really think guys like you would be better off like that than being blitzkrieged with mountains of resources like it is now.[/quote]

They try to out-think the effort. I haven’t seen one person yet who this actually works for, and I’ve honestly been on this site long enough that the idiots claiming they are going to “lose body fat and gain muscle at the same time” should have grown to extreme proportions by now.

One can only wonder why that isn’t happening and why those who actually focused on gaining as a primary goal have made the most significant progress.

It is like the concept of lifting hard is foreign. They run around chanting specific routines as if “full body training”, simply because you do certain exercises, is the key to building muscle.

One thing you can’t write down is how HARD you fucking lifted. You can’t write down the intensity level. You can’t calculate it out.

This is why you never needed to show off how many books you’ve read in the gym. This is what separates those that try to show off how much they think they know…from those who actually show it in their own bodies.

Most of these guys need to actually put the books down until they figure out how to balance EFFORT with what they think they know.

The specific program you are doing is LEAST important, regardless of who says it is the best one way to train.

Until you figure that out, no one gives a shit how many authors you can quote or how many name brand routines you can rattle off from memory.

Your professed IQ means shit when the game involves sheer will, intensity, focus and consistency.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
<<< Why 1/2 a cup of egge whites and not simply several whole eggs? >>>

Why not some meat? Fish? Chicken? Why the almost total avoidance of fat outside of “tablets” (this here is very telling) and yes some whole eggs. This reads like an early 90’s fat free Fitness America Pageant lab experiment.

Why whole body training if you aren’t gaining? I suspect your fear of fat has you trying to train to lose because you read, probably here that full body routines burn more fat. They may, but at least in your case this move everything while not REALLY pushing anything method is not working.

For all your “knowledge” you haven’t demonstrated the intuition to apprehend this simple state of affairs and adjust accordingly.

You are the quintessential poster boy for why the hell so few people are progressing these days. Head stuffed full of information and body going nowhere. Don’t take me as picking on you. You are not alone. I’ll say it again. I started with nothing.

No internet, no books, just a bunch of equipment and I really think guys like you would be better off like that than being blitzkrieged with mountains of resources like it is now.[/quote]

Dude have you not read my food list at all. I don’t know where you get no fat. Peanut butter and almonds are pretty concentrated in healthy fats. In total I took in today over 80 grams of mostly polyunsaturated and mono unsaturated fats.

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:

Dude have you not read my food list at all. I don’t know where you get no fat. Peanut butter and almonds are pretty concentrated in healthy fats. In total I took in today over 80 grams of mostly polyunsaturated and mono unsaturated fats.
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Good for you. Where’s the muscle?

Try eating what you are currently, but at 3,500-4,000 calorie range. You should see results and if you don’t - train harder.

Your breakfeast consists of like 100 calories of carbs at the main time of day when carbs are the most useful. Stop measuring your shit and just put those oats in the bowl until you can’t fill the bowl no more!

My breakfeast:

-Old fashion 1 minute oatmeal (probably 3 cups)
-Mix with 1% milk, microwave it.
-Add crunchy peanut butter (200-300 calories worth)
-Add 1 scoop whey protein (any flavor tastes good, but chocolate is great addition to the peanuts)

I used to fear fat.

But the truth is… I love muscle more than I hate fat because you can always get rid of fat later. Think long term.

Your diet is pretty strict, your program is pretty pointless. That’s not to belittle you but to point out there is no focus in your program. You stated you wanted to consult a dietician without even stating why. You displayed your diet without saying why, and your workout without saying why(unless I missed it all). Are you trying to gain weight, lose weight, maintain weight but go up in strength, what?

If you are trying to gain weight as everyone has pointed out your on the wrong path. While it’s possible even under your calorie reduced diet, it will be awfully slow and your workout doesn’t appear to support it also.

Another example of lack of focus, no display of weight lifted from last month to this month. It’s pretty much basic math that if you had the same diet last month, lifted the same wieghts the same number of times then your not going to see growth. Pretty much 0change + 0change = 0growth.

I have seen people who claim to grow on TB workouts however, if your seriuos it’s just not the most efficient way to gain size. Supersetting compound exercises on top of that unless your rest periods or food intake are high, it is not that good for growth.

As far as losing weight, if you are going intense with your workout I would think your program would be pretty decent for wieght loss. We are not there to be able to tell your intensity, but the best way for us is to see some progress in your program.

As far as intensity goes, keep in mind there are figure competitors at 120lbs(women) that are lifting seriuos weight while eating what you eat to cut. So no benching or squatting 225 6-8 times expecting to cut at 190lbs.

Hope this helps.

[quote]matt_t2004 wrote:
<<< Dude have you not read my food list at all. I don’t know where you get no fat. Peanut butter and almonds are pretty concentrated in healthy fats. In total I took in today over 80 grams of mostly polyunsaturated and mono unsaturated fats.
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Are you a squirrel? How bout a burger? Or some scrambled eggs. Professor X should sell t-shirts that say “you can’t out-think the effort”. You could be his mascot. “Smarter not harder” DOES NOT WORK with weight training. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t use your head, but guys like you have made an art form out of overanalysis.

One thing’s for sure. On that diet there is no way you are pushing all those supersets to any meaningful level, especially in the same workout.

It’s no small thing either that, while you try to convince yourself otherwise with self assured mental exercises about how “it’s all worth it” I doubt if you’re really enjoying what you’re doing. you’ve reduced the whole process to a tedious chore.

.9 banana.

OP, you look like you have a bit of paralysis by anaysis going.