Anyone Still Doing Big Beyond Belief?

I’ve been playing around with it after coming off a dieting phase. I have gradually been adding calories each week. I am trying to see how high I can get my calories before my scale weight increases. So far I went from 2200kcal per day at the end of the diet to 3000 calories per day (I don’t count veggie calories and I have a one day carb up that’s 5000-6000kcal).

My weight today was 202 which is the lowest it ever got on the diet. I guess I’ll bump up to 3250 next week. Or I may add 100g of carbs to the carb day instead (currently I shoot for 600g net carbs that day).

My biggest problem with this program is; how can you justify doing as many sets for biceps as for the thighs and back? That just doesent make any sense.

[quote]whatever2k wrote:
My biggest problem with this program is; how can you justify doing as many sets for biceps as for the thighs and back? That just doesent make any sense.[/quote]

Your not (at least not in all the options I have checked). Check the routine again. In some ramps you might train biceps as often ‘BUT’ you might be doing a single set of biceps as opposed to 5 work sets each for legs and back.
In addition, the exercise selection would rather you do chins for biceps and that obviously has further carryover to back.

I loved this program and did well on it, although my tendons hated it.

just started BBB 4 day yesterday…combined with the anabolic diet. time to GSD (get shit done).

Are you supposed to take no rest days? or could you put rest days between workout days? i was thinking of doing the 4 day.

[quote]DazeDolo wrote:
Are you supposed to take no rest days? or could you put rest days between workout days? i was thinking of doing the 4 day.[/quote]

my understanding, and what im doing, is:

day 1
day 2
off
day 3
day 4
off
off

repeat

im wondering if a day off in between day 3 and 4 would work, or does it go against the intentions of the program.

[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:

[quote]DazeDolo wrote:
Are you supposed to take no rest days? or could you put rest days between workout days? i was thinking of doing the 4 day.[/quote]

my understanding, and what im doing, is:

day 1
day 2
off
day 3
day 4
off
off

repeat

im wondering if a day off in between day 3 and 4 would work, or does it go against the intentions of the program.[/quote]

I was going to do .

Day 1 , rest,Day 2 , Day 3, rest,Day 4 , rest . repeat

[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:

[quote]DazeDolo wrote:
Are you supposed to take no rest days? or could you put rest days between workout days? i was thinking of doing the 4 day.[/quote]

my understanding, and what im doing, is:

day 1
day 2
off
day 3
day 4
off
off

repeat

im wondering if a day off in between day 3 and 4 would work, or does it go against the intentions of the program.[/quote]

The original plan does have a day off in between 3 and 4, the text you probably have read doesn’t state that, but it really is supposed to.

I used to Day 1, Day 2, rest, Day 3, rest, Day 4, rest,

If I did the 4x per week I’d do Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat.

i assume everybody does the same exercise for the prescribed number of sets? like if chest calls for 3 sets you do your first set and then decrease the weight each set to get in the prescribed the rep range.

i was reading some of phil hernons training philosophies and was thinking of incorporating them into BBB.

so if chest calls for 3 sets, do 1 set of flat barbell press, 1 set of incline dumbbell press, 1 set of weighted dips. same rest periods and rep ranges as BBB, just doing 3 exercises instead of the same one for all 3 sets. nothing in the book says you HAVE to do the same exercise for all 3 sets.

Thinking about giving this a run in a few months. Tried it when I first started lifting, but had a crap diet, was under eating on protein, had shitty exercise selection, and horrible form. lol. Now that I know what I;m doing, will try again. Wil do the 6x a week program, because the 2 TBT days on the 4x seem like hell.

Only ‘tweak’ I feel I learned from running it last time was, presses for Chest, Triceps, AND Delts was too much. May bump up the rep ranges on delts, and do flyes/raises, to keep the area healthy and all.

Did my first workout of BBB . It was quick and intense not too hard. I can tell its going to get way more difficult though lol. Ramp 2 looks crazy.

[quote]wannabebig250 wrote:
i assume everybody does the same exercise for the prescribed number of sets? like if chest calls for 3 sets you do your first set and then decrease the weight each set to get in the prescribed the rep range.

i was reading some of phil hernons training philosophies and was thinking of incorporating them into BBB.

so if chest calls for 3 sets, do 1 set of flat barbell press, 1 set of incline dumbbell press, 1 set of weighted dips. same rest periods and rep ranges as BBB, just doing 3 exercises instead of the same one for all 3 sets. nothing in the book says you HAVE to do the same exercise for all 3 sets.[/quote]

I would definitely just use one exercise per bodypart per day. If you’re working chest 3 days per week then you could use 3 different exercises, or use the same one each day. From what I’ve read, most of the guys on here will pick one exercise to do on both the 13-15 rep day and the 8-10 rep day. Then, they use one different exercise for the 10-12 rep day.

The split I’m looking at is:

Day 1:
Incline DB
Rev Pulldowns
Hammer Curls
Calves

Day 2:
Rear Delt Flyes
CGBP
Squats
Abs

Day 3:
Rack Pulls OR Kroc Rows
Cable Fly/Press
Rev Incline Curls
Calves

Day 4:
Lateral Raises
OH DB Extension
SLDL OR Leg Curls or Sumo Leg Press
Abs

Day 5:
Same as Day 1 with different rep range. except DP Press for Delts

Day 6:
Same as Day 2 with different rep range

As MODOK has suggested in other threads, may up the rep range on biceps and delts, just because they respond better and seems to keep the area healthier. Thinking I need a row variation, so could do a row instead of Pulldowns again OR a set of Kroc rows after Rack Deads. Trying not to change shit up too much. The chest fly variation I’m doing is on a cable and kind of a ‘press flye’ hybrid, so will allow a lot of progression just BTW.

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
The split I’m looking at is:

Day 1:
Incline DB
Rev Pulldowns
Hammer Curls
Calves

Day 2:
Rear Delt Flyes
CGBP
Squats
Abs

Day 3:
Rack Pulls OR Kroc Rows
Cable Fly/Press
Rev Incline Curls
Calves

Day 4:
Lateral Raises
OH DB Extension
SLDL OR Leg Curls or Sumo Leg Press
Abs

Day 5:
Same as Day 1 with different rep range. except DP Press for Delts

Day 6:
Same as Day 2 with different rep range

As MODOK has suggested in other threads, may up the rep range on biceps and delts, just because they respond better and seems to keep the area healthier. Thinking I need a row variation, so could do a row instead of Pulldowns again OR a set of Kroc rows after Rack Deads. Trying not to change shit up too much. The chest fly variation I’m doing is on a cable and kind of a ‘press flye’ hybrid, so will allow a lot of progression just BTW.[/quote]

I think you’re doing too much single joint stuff. The point of the program is to do as many compound movements as possible. There are some changes you could make to get better results. Delts should be mostly overhead pressing and upright rows. Chest should be some type of barbell press unless you have REALLY heavy dumbbells. Legs should be mainly squat, deadlift, or leg press variations. Tris should be close grip pressing, board pressing, or reverse band/Sling Shot bench.

[quote]Zach Rounsaville wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
The split I’m looking at is:

Day 1:
Incline DB
Rev Pulldowns
Hammer Curls
Calves

Day 2:
Rear Delt Flyes
CGBP
Squats
Abs

Day 3:
Rack Pulls OR Kroc Rows
Cable Fly/Press
Rev Incline Curls
Calves

Day 4:
Lateral Raises
OH DB Extension
SLDL OR Leg Curls or Sumo Leg Press
Abs

Day 5:
Same as Day 1 with different rep range. except DP Press for Delts

Day 6:
Same as Day 2 with different rep range

As MODOK has suggested in other threads, may up the rep range on biceps and delts, just because they respond better and seems to keep the area healthier. Thinking I need a row variation, so could do a row instead of Pulldowns again OR a set of Kroc rows after Rack Deads. Trying not to change shit up too much. The chest fly variation I’m doing is on a cable and kind of a ‘press flye’ hybrid, so will allow a lot of progression just BTW.[/quote]

I think you’re doing too much single joint stuff. The point of the program is to do as many compound movements as possible. There are some changes you could make to get better results. Delts should be mostly overhead pressing and upright rows. Chest should be some type of barbell press unless you have REALLY heavy dumbbells. Legs should be mainly squat, deadlift, or leg press variations. Tris should be close grip pressing, board pressing, or reverse band/Sling Shot bench.
[/quote]

Sorry bud, you may have missed my previous post in the thread. I ran the program before, presses for chest, triceps, AND delts was just too much for me. I decided I’d do more ‘iso’ work for delts, to save myself the issues frequent OH pressing and Upright rows have done to me before. DB’s go up to I40, doubt I’ll be inclining those for 10+ reps anytime soon lol.

Like I’ve said, I’ve done it with EVERYTHING as compound movements, and it just don’t think I can handle THAT much pressing, at least to failure as frequently as this calls for.

How many calories were you eating each day?

[quote]Zach Rounsaville wrote:
How many calories were you eating each day?[/quote]

Then? 4500-5000 kcal minimum daily. I honestly ate too much and put on too much fat. It wasn’t a recovery issue in that regard. I meant more aches and pains on my shoulders and elbows.

Got my first day of 13-15 rep Squats. Wish me luck. lol