Any Late-Starter Boxers Here?

you should make a log man! i would follow it in a heartbeat.

[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
you should make a log man! i would follow it in a heartbeat.[/quote]

I really thought about it to keep myself accountable w/ my nutrition, but I don’t think I would be consistent enough since I’m at 2 different gyms all day long. Funny enough any spare time I have I’m on here, EliteFts, etc. looking for nutritional and training tips, or watching my favorite fighters on YouTube.

Just a question regarding weight cutting in the amateur ranks.Is there much credence to the belief that you should try to keep at your natural bw at amateur?A friend of mine is naturally around 185 and he cuts to light heavyweight which isn’t that much of a stretch.I’m around 205/210 pounds naturally and would have to do something very different with my diet to lower my weight I’d say.I haven’t been training long so it’s not like I have any upcoming fights in my crosshairs but around what weight class do you guys think I should fight at?

take it slow… dont beat your body up trying to make weight and fight the same day, AND NOT GET PAID FOR IT. obviously it would be best for you to DIET yourself down to 201 lb weight class, but judging by your picture your not all that big and the boys get big from 178lbs and up. I would really focus on leaning up and seeing what weight class your diet takes you, people often have more body fat than they know. unless you are 6’1" or above, you need to get down in weight. There is much more that goes into it, but so far that’s what I have seen at Light heavy’s(178Lbs) and above.

I started late at 32. Love it. Have had a few fights, and I am kicking myself I didnt choose this sport as a teenager.

[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
take it slow… dont beat your body up trying to make weight and fight the same day, AND NOT GET PAID FOR IT. obviously it would be best for you to DIET yourself down to 201 lb weight class, but judging by your picture your not all that big and the boys get big from 178lbs and up. I would really focus on leaning up and seeing what weight class your diet takes you, people often have more body fat than they know. unless you are 6’1" or above, you need to get down in weight. There is much more that goes into it, but so far that’s what I have seen at Light heavy’s(178Lbs) and above.[/quote]

Thanks for that.It’s good to get advice from someone with a bit of experience in it.Im 6:2 in height but I agree with you that I might be a bit on the small side for the 201 pound class just yet maybe.Thanks for the advice man.

[quote]law8 wrote:

[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
take it slow… dont beat your body up trying to make weight and fight the same day, AND NOT GET PAID FOR IT. obviously it would be best for you to DIET yourself down to 201 lb weight class, but judging by your picture your not all that big and the boys get big from 178lbs and up. I would really focus on leaning up and seeing what weight class your diet takes you, people often have more body fat than they know. unless you are 6’1" or above, you need to get down in weight. There is much more that goes into it, but so far that’s what I have seen at Light heavy’s(178Lbs) and above.[/quote]

Thanks for that.It’s good to get advice from someone with a bit of experience in it.Im 6:2 in height but I agree with you that I might be a bit on the small side for the 201 pound class just yet maybe.Thanks for the advice man.[/quote]

6’2" would be nice at 178Lbs

[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:

[quote]law8 wrote:

[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
take it slow… dont beat your body up trying to make weight and fight the same day, AND NOT GET PAID FOR IT. obviously it would be best for you to DIET yourself down to 201 lb weight class, but judging by your picture your not all that big and the boys get big from 178lbs and up. I would really focus on leaning up and seeing what weight class your diet takes you, people often have more body fat than they know. unless you are 6’1" or above, you need to get down in weight. There is much more that goes into it, but so far that’s what I have seen at Light heavy’s(178Lbs) and above.[/quote]

Thanks for that.It’s good to get advice from someone with a bit of experience in it.Im 6:2 in height but I agree with you that I might be a bit on the small side for the 201 pound class just yet maybe.Thanks for the advice man.[/quote]

6’2" would be nice at 178Lbs
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heh, it’d be even better at middleweight.

Yeah, you wanna be on the taller side of a weight class…

I started training MMA at 21, and boxing is actually my best asset. It’s all about how hard, and smart you want to train. With proper coaching, the right attitude/dedication, and a little bit of natural gifts (coordination, strength, balance etc), you could def go far.

Here’s me doing a warm up round of padwork in preparation for my 3rd fight, this is about 3 years after I started training. I was def not a natural at this sort of thing when i started, it took a lot of work. So I feel that if I can do it, anyone can.

BTW, I know my boxing needs a ton of work, but not bad for a MMA guy…right?

[quote]law8 wrote:
Just a question regarding weight cutting in the amateur ranks.Is there much credence to the belief that you should try to keep at your natural bw at amateur?A friend of mine is naturally around 185 and he cuts to light heavyweight which isn’t that much of a stretch.I’m around 205/210 pounds naturally and would have to do something very different with my diet to lower my weight I’d say.I haven’t been training long so it’s not like I have any upcoming fights in my crosshairs but around what weight class do you guys think I should fight at?[/quote]

I’ve cut weight for all of my amateur fights. I did it because I didn’t grow up wrestling, so I figured I’d practice before going pro. Your record doesn’t matter when you’re an amateur, so it’s best to try things out then, rather then find out the hard way once you’re pro.

ugaMMA411 - Your straight punches look pretty good from what I can see, and your chin looks like you’re keeping it in tight. (Small screen, so I might miss details)

Your uppercuts look like feints though, most of them look like they had zero power behind them. Was that intentional? I’m not a big fan of throwing a punch with no power repeatedly in training, it’s teaching you to pull it in the ring. If you meant to throw them hard you need to work on your uppercut, mostly on getting your legs into it. Right now it looks like just your arm and shoulder throwing the punch.

Also, you seem to telegraph a lot of your punches with your feet. Kind of a bouce-bounce-plant-punch rhythm that gives your opponent that half-second to realize that you’re going to throw with power. Personally I could never overcome this by planting less, I’m something of a plodding fighter, so I settled down and bounced less instead. Irish may be able to help you with more advice, I think he’s move of an in-close bob and weave style guy.

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
ugaMMA411 - Your straight punches look pretty good from what I can see, and your chin looks like you’re keeping it in tight. (Small screen, so I might miss details)

Your uppercuts look like feints though, most of them look like they had zero power behind them. Was that intentional? I’m not a big fan of throwing a punch with no power repeatedly in training, it’s teaching you to pull it in the ring. If you meant to throw them hard you need to work on your uppercut, mostly on getting your legs into it. Right now it looks like just your arm and shoulder throwing the punch.

Also, you seem to telegraph a lot of your punches with your feet. Kind of a bouce-bounce-plant-punch rhythm that gives your opponent that half-second to realize that you’re going to throw with power. Personally I could never overcome this by planting less, I’m something of a plodding fighter, so I settled down and bounced less instead. Irish may be able to help you with more advice, I think he’s move of an in-close bob and weave style guy.[/quote]

Thanks for the advice man, we have great resources at the gym, but my pure boxing definitely needs a ton of work. That padwork is reflexive, therefore I don’t know what counters he is going to throw at me, and I have to be able to react accordingly. My left hook and straight punches are my better strikes (my left hook has won me a few fights), but I def need work on the uppercuts. I’ve been trying to plot more, and only bounce/move effectively when necessary.

I’m still trying to find the right style of combining boxing, kickboxing/thai boxing, and other striking arts, in order to find what will work for me in MMA. Everything I learn, I try to adapt for the demands of MMA. I will make sure to review your suggestions with my striking coach, I’ll do anything to improve. Thank you again for the advice, and please keep it coming, it always helps me to look for ways to become better at my art.