Slay him.
P-DOG just hit the nail on the head.
Hey ND,
The difference is you’re a kid and this guy ‘Hater’ was in front of his girl.If the gym is empty then they should be able to do their program.Two people over rule one.I always had a back up program in case a group was using the same stations I was going to use.I worked out at a gym that would take your weights if you stepped more than 3 feet away from them.I don’t care if it’s been abandoned for 30 minutes,I always ask ‘is anyone is using this’.Thank God I work in an office building that has a private gym which nobody uses.
ND, the fact of the matter is, we helped that kid because he was truly in a big-time dilemma and couldn’t find a way out. So we all pitched in our advice.
This situation on the other hand, was promptly solved with a few people speaking the opinions of pretty much everybody else.
Now that the problem has been solved (in theory), it is now on to the coking and joking.
Just because we can fit more iron on our backs than is contained in the bloodstreams of every man, woman, and child in Ethiopia doesn’t mean that we can’t tell a joke.
Summary of above options.
Step 1 - Explain Superset
Step 2 - Question the need for arsebandit’s bad attitude
Step 3 - If necessary provoke situations which will either cause a fight or him to be banned from gym. I prefer the latter but this is not me and I am not there.
Question; Maybe we should all start fistfighting again but true old school did in fact use weapons. It was civilisation that in fact made them redundant. What if he has a gun in his car?
Too many people are just sittin back letting dickstains push them around. It doesn’t matter if it is at the store, a theme park , on the road, or in the gym, stand up for yourself on one else is going to. I don’t go looking for crap nor do I push it, but I am more than happy to standup for myself.“You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry”
Guru X
YOu know, I heard these same conversations all year about punching guys who “disrespect” and blah, blah, blah about kicking ass. The problem is that I teach high school and it sounds like my freshmen classes here. Punch him + kick his ass = go to jail/get sued. Now go to math class!
You know with most people who start a problem like that asswipe, usally will back down. He may have acted tough towards you but I bet after the fact he was supprised you stood up to him. I have noticed that alot with some people they act all bad towards you but when you step up they will back down, now I know there are some real idots out there who are too stupid to realize they are over matched, and keep running there mouth, and blanket party in the locker room an them. I think you did good by standing your ground.
You fuckers crack me up. If the other dude (the asshole) had posted his version of what happened you would all be telling HIM to kick haters ass and screw his girlfriend on the incline bench etc. My experience has been there are often two sides to a story like this one. If you tough guys who want to stomp ass over some shit like this come rampaging through South Carolina some body will just put a 45 caliber round in your buffed up bod and end it; in 2003 alot of people don’t intend to carry an asswhipping. This overblown rhetoric it bullshit. Violence should definitly be the last resort.
P-dog while I understand you point of view and subscribe to it to some extent, you are wrong here.
If he had beat his ass then and there, I can almost guarantee it would not have ended there. That guy would have come back with more buddies, or retaliated in some other way, perhaps judicially. Who knows, maybe he would even gone postal on him.
Defending your honor is good but withint reasons. If somebody slaps your girlfriend on the ass or even says something foul to her, then my friend you have no choice but to open that can of whoop-ass.
So I can walk up to some of you guys, act like an ass, disrespect your wife, and hide behind the fact that the staff will step in between us without fear of repercussion?
What’s the worst thing that’s going to happen if you call this guy’s bluff - he’s going to hit you? maybe. He’s going to his car to get his Glock and come back to shoot you? unlikely but I’ll give you that it’s a possibility. More than likely he’s going to back off, especially when he’s no longer in front of an audience.
So are you going to spend the rest of your life running away from guys like this out of fear that you may ultimately have to stand up to him …I thought this was TESTOSTERONE magazine, not Martha Stewart Living.
“I’m scared because people have guns these days” is a cop-out, get your balls out of your purse and stand up for what you believe in. Where’s all the people who post on the Iraq War now, is pride and honour non-existent when it’s you involved and not someone else fighting on your behalf?
Several possible solutions come to mind, however why not stick to ones that don’t result in you sitting in a jail while the dickhead that started it all is still going to the gym and probably hitting on your lady while you’re staying at the graybar motel?
Try writing a complaint to management (I know that has already been mentioned, but it is worth repeating).
Try telling management you and your girlfriend will terminate your membership if they can’t provide a safe, nonconfrontational environment to workout in. You could also mention the power of word of mouth advertising.
If that doesn’t work, find out which buttons of his you can push to set him off. Let him take the first swing (in front of witnesses) then kick his ass so badly he gets the sweats just thinking he might see you again.
Have your girlfriend kick his ass.
Or, just forget about it and get on with life.
“get your balls out of your purse and stand up for what you believe in”
that is quite possibly the funniest thing i have ever heard.
all this talk about “this is 2003 he might have a gun in his car, he will sue you, you’ll go to jail” makes me want to puke.
first of all who is really going to go through all the troubles of a court trial over something as small as an ass kicking? im sure the benefits hardly outweigh the costs.
secondly, not all people run to the trunk of their car every time they get in a little altercation, that is a typical scenario that happens 2x per year but is played 1,000,000x on the news so we act as if it is an every day occurence.
and thirdly, what makes you or that guy think that i dont have one in my car?
the problem here is that the non violence advocates are assuming that you have time to sit and think during a situation like this. as i previously stated if some a-hole said something to my girlfriend it would provoke an aoutomatice physiological response within me. yes i can control it, if i choose to. but in a situation like that i see no reason to.
im not trying to be a tough guy, nor do i pick fights, quite possibly that dude would have stomped my brains out. all im saying is that one needs to stand up for his self, his pride, his beliefs, etc.
you would be amazed at how good it makes you feel inside to stand up to an asshole like that. and conversely how shitty it makes you feel when you dont. there have been times where someone disrespected me in that way and i did nothing about it. i thought about it and got pissed off for days after because i didnt defend my pride and honor.
if he would have stood up to that guy he would feel proud, powerful, respected, his self esteem would be through the roof, and his girlfriend would also feel those same things. although she might not agree with violence, every woman wants her man to stand up for her and her honor.
i cant imagine what it is like to go through life scared of a bully, or scared someone is going to sue me, or scared someone might have a gun. living your life in fear is not the answer. crying to management is not the answer. they would probabaly laugh at you as the bully did.
im not advocating violence, i am advocating pride, respect, and honor. give it a try, i assure you that you will feel much better about yourselves because of it.
The night time is the right time for creepin
Vandalize his crib and rape his wife while she sleepin
-DMX
P-Dog, you’re contradicting yourself.
You said “first of all who is really going to go through all the troubles of a court trial over something as small as an ass kicking? im sure the benefits hardly outweigh the costs.”
In your post prior to that, you said “a remark such as what the asshole in question made, is not something that i would sit around and think about. it is an automatic reaction for me to get mad, for the adrenaline to start pumping, and for me to promptly shove a size 11 deep into his rectal cavity.”
That’s the problem. Most people don’t think, they just act. You admitted as much yourself. So if Hater did happen to whoop this guy’s ass, and this guy is an irrational person, he very well could go into a rage and grab his gun, etc., etc., etc.
This ain’t the olden days when you could get in a bar brawl and buy your opponent a beer afterward. Today, everyone thinks they automatically deserve respect without ever doing anything to earn it. Hell, I see little kids spouting off about being owed respect all the time. It’s fucking ridiculous.
The bottom line is, the essence of a “T-Man” is not someone who loses their cool at the drop of a hat, but one who is able to size up a situation and determine whether or not they feel they or their loved ones are in harms way. If this guy is following them home or making outright threats then, yes, other measures may need to be taken. But blowing your fuse because you feel someone else’s words got the better of you is just plain stupid.
I encountered a similar situation one time, while doing KB swings. I had three different weights lying around while this dude walks up and grabs one. So, i tapped on his shoulder (he had headphones on) and simple said, I have one more set and then I’ll bring it to where your at. He looks at me and says nothing, no expression and continues to walk away with it. I followed him right behind and as soon as he got to his station he layed the KB on a bench, so I grabbed it and walked back to where I was. I ignored everything he said during my workout. After I was done, I walked up to him and said “IM done with my workout, what you say you and I go for a walk in the parking lot.?” The funniest thing, he’s eyes got watery he could not stop blinking, he began to stutter with words, it was sad. So, I simply grabbed his arm and said “don’t get near me, don’t bother me, and don’t you ever say a word around or to me.!” the dude kisses my ass now… sorry piece of shit!
moral of the story: words are simple and anyone can give them, but walking is the true challenge and true victor. So, tell the dude your for real, maybe say this “You know what? I don’t like you and in a little bit I’ll deal with you personally, just let me finish my routine!” for the rest of the time the dude will be pissing his pants.
Da Boxer
All this talk of “Disrespect, Pride and Honour” is counter-productive. You’d expect advice like that from your neighbourhood 13-year-old Wigga posse, but it takes a bigger man to brush the incident off, ignore him and get on with stuff like he doesn’t exist.
Just try and focus on the task at hand.
That’s assuming that HE isn’t the one pursuing the matter every time you see him though…
God - I’m so conflicted…!
Radar,
gosh darn it, words like that really almost always make me feel real little. Their completely the right thing to do and say (or not say for that matter), it makes my situation or experience competely wrong.
Oh well, good words. And yes I do like your advice.
da boxer
Hater, you did the best thing. He will now think twice before he crosses your zone in the gym.
Unlike P-DOG, I don’t think that this called for a violent strike. For one, if you threw a punch, you would get kicked out of the gym, you would get arrested, and you would be made out to be the bad guy. There are times where you have to fight, but this isn’t one of them.