I’ll bet money he hasn’t gone without a single injury. Like I said, rare cases like a comp or a big PR attempt I think it’s OK to do something like this, but I don’t think it should be disregarded just because the son of a bitch is strong. I don’t know about you but weightlifting for me is just as much about health as it is strength and aesthetics.
And saying just because he DLs more than me means his form is better is kind of an oxymoron, seeing as how it’s a lot easier to pull a lot more weight with shittier form.
P.S.: Your grammar still sucks (dick).
[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
BlakedaMan wrote:
What the fuck is it with people and saying that just because you’re strong, you don’t need to keep good form for safety reasons? I can understand breaking form like that for a competition lift, or in this case as a rare occasion, but other than that I think it’s retarded to use THAT shitty of form all the time, especially when you’re moving 7+ bills.
Definitely impressive strength, but doesn’t mean he should just fuck up his body “because it works.”
Fucking stupid.
Ya know, as long as his back doesn’t round and he’s not tearing both biceps, how is his form bad?
How much do you deadlift? If he’s gotten to that point injury free, than I think his form is better then yours.
his upper back is rounded but you cant see if his lowerback is on that vid - isnt this a proper technique for shortening the stroke for the deadlift just like arching for a powerlifitng bench?
massive over reaction to his form - yes he hitches slightly but its not that bad
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i think once you can deadlift 765x6
people have to shut up about your form.
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I think people should ALWAYS be concerned with form. with proper form they will in the long run be able to lift more anyway. plus if he gets injured is it still proper to ignore form?
[quote]danjo228 wrote:
MikeyKBiatch wrote:
danjo228 wrote:
His form looks so bad, but that dude is wicked strong. I mean he just looks brutally strong and looks like he would just be mind boggling with better technique.
Well I think he is using what he has found to work best for him. What specifically do you think he could do better?
I think he could use a bit more leg drive. As you suggested, I looked at a few other of his vids. He has a very ugly clean and bench technique. I’m not taking anything away from the guy, he’s strong. I think he has potential to do more.
If that form works for him, great![/quote]
Do you realize that every video of him doing a clean, it’s a CONTINENTAL clean, not a power clean, not a hang clean, not a full clean or any other type? If you did, you’d know that it’s not even comparable to a normal clean. As for his bench, it looks perfectly fine to me.
I have known this guy for a couple of years. Yes he is f-ing strong and no, he has never had a serious injury. For all you talking about his form, you dont know anything and you probly dont deadlift anything either or else you would know better.
[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i think once you can deadlift 765x6
people have to shut up about your form.
I think people should ALWAYS be concerned with form. with proper form they will in the long run be able to lift more anyway. plus if he gets injured is it still proper to ignore form?[/quote]
Notice how almost every insane deadlifter has bad form?
i think somewhere along the way of being one of the world’s strongest men you learn a thing or two about what works for you and what you can get away with safely.
i agree with Kalle, so many great pullers use less than textbook form.
[quote]BlakedaMan wrote:
it’s a lot easier to pull a lot more weight with shittier form.
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If you pull more with bad form than you do with “good form” than your “good form” sucks
[quote]Kalle wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i think once you can deadlift 765x6
people have to shut up about your form.
I think people should ALWAYS be concerned with form. with proper form they will in the long run be able to lift more anyway. plus if he gets injured is it still proper to ignore form?
Notice how almost every insane deadlifter has bad form?
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i think insane was a good choice of word. no doubt the man is strong, but i am sure there are many competitors that wish they would have done things right from the beginning. i think ultimately, if safety and longevity are in any way part of his goals, he may want to rethink things form-wise.
[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
Kalle wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i think once you can deadlift 765x6
people have to shut up about your form.
I think people should ALWAYS be concerned with form. with proper form they will in the long run be able to lift more anyway. plus if he gets injured is it still proper to ignore form?
Notice how almost every insane deadlifter has bad form?
i think insane was a good choice of word. no doubt the man is strong, but i am sure there are many competitors that wish they would have done things right from the beginning. i think ultimately, if safety and longevity are in any way part of his goals, he may want to rethink things form-wise.[/quote]
I bet your the kind of person who thinks 3 plates is a big deadlift. As long as done with “picture perfect form” No one ever thinks everyone is built differently? So everyone should look exactly the same when deadlifting right?
[quote]Kalle wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
Kalle wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i think once you can deadlift 765x6
people have to shut up about your form.
I think people should ALWAYS be concerned with form. with proper form they will in the long run be able to lift more anyway. plus if he gets injured is it still proper to ignore form?
Notice how almost every insane deadlifter has bad form?
i think insane was a good choice of word. no doubt the man is strong, but i am sure there are many competitors that wish they would have done things right from the beginning. i think ultimately, if safety and longevity are in any way part of his goals, he may want to rethink things form-wise.
I bet your the kind of person who thinks 3 plates is a big deadlift. As long as done with “picture perfect form” No one ever thinks everyone is built differently? So everyone should look exactly the same when deadlifting right?[/quote]
What I find the most impressive actually, is that his “bad form” comes from pretty much “stiff legging” the weights, so he’s using mostly his lower back and glutes. I wonder how tall he is, most tall guys tend to deadlift that way…
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
BlakedaMan wrote:
it’s a lot easier to pull a lot more weight with shittier form.
If you pull more with bad form than you do with “good form” than your “good form” sucks
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If you’re talking about good form only applying to how much weight you move, then fair enough. But IMO, I don’t think it’s worth it to put your back at risk like that on a regular basis. Maybe some of you boys are just too hard core to give a fuck about your body’s health.
Stop with the dick waving everyone. My personal opinion is just that I would rather pull 600 with my back in line with my neck, and my ass dropped than pull 765 with that form (again, talking about REGULARLY - for competing, I couldn’t care less).
In my mind, the point is not so much that you cannot comment if you are not as strong as him.
Rather, I think that you need to take it in the context it belongs.
This guy is a strongman competitor (I assume by his screen name). His front squat numbers are on par with his pull so you can’t really say he lacks total leg strength.
I have never watched anybody lift a heavy stone from the ground without a rounded lower back. In fact, I think it is virtually impossible. Not to mention, in SM deadlift comps, you can typically hitch and use straps.
Is his form ideal for a competitive powerlifter? Probably not as he is going to have difficulty locking out limit weight cleanly because of his starting position, but this guy is not concerned with that.
I don’t care how you do it, 765x6 not only indicates an exceptional base level of strength but also quite a high level of work capacity for a guy that size.
Anyway, I just evaluate stuff like like that relative to what the guy is trying to accomplish.
[quote]BlakedaMan wrote:
KBCThird wrote:
BlakedaMan wrote:
it’s a lot easier to pull a lot more weight with shittier form.
If you pull more with bad form than you do with “good form” than your “good form” sucks
If you’re talking about good form only applying to how much weight you move, then fair enough. But IMO, I don’t think it’s worth it to put your back at risk like that on a regular basis. Maybe some of you boys are just too hard core to give a fuck about your body’s health.
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This has nothing to do wiht being hardcore. How are you arguing that the deadlift is easier with an inferior, more dangerous form? I’m not calling you a liar, but if you are legitimately a 600 lb puller, i think you’re the only one who can manage to come out of his groove - even slightly - and somehow find it easier.
[quote]m1sf1t wrote:
Kalle wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
Kalle wrote:
honest_lifter wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i think once you can deadlift 765x6
people have to shut up about your form.
I think people should ALWAYS be concerned with form. with proper form they will in the long run be able to lift more anyway. plus if he gets injured is it still proper to ignore form?
Notice how almost every insane deadlifter has bad form?
i think insane was a good choice of word. no doubt the man is strong, but i am sure there are many competitors that wish they would have done things right from the beginning. i think ultimately, if safety and longevity are in any way part of his goals, he may want to rethink things form-wise.
I bet your the kind of person who thinks 3 plates is a big deadlift. As long as done with “picture perfect form” No one ever thinks everyone is built differently? So everyone should look exactly the same when deadlifting right?
What I find the most impressive actually, is that his “bad form” comes from pretty much “stiff legging” the weights, so he’s using mostly his lower back and glutes. I wonder how tall he is, most tall guys tend to deadlift that way…[/quote]
