Are you kidding? Why would you dick around with 21 semi-half-assed reps? Why not be consistent and knock out 5x5 on bicep curls with a heavy enough weight to stimulate it? Or 5xfail is also a good choice. Maybe I am just a moron, but I found 21’s to be as useless as a football bat.
Workout A
Squats 5x5
Bench press 5x5
Bent over row 5x5
Workout B
Chin-ups 5x5
Deadlifts 5x5
Overhead press 5x5
Plus some assistance exercises - flyes, calf raises, etc. I don’t see why you would go to failure on a programme where you’re working most muscle groups 3 times a week, period.
Workout A
Squats 5x5
Bench press 5x5
Bent over row 5x5
Workout B
Chin-ups 5x5
Deadlifts 5x5
Overhead press 5x5
Plus some assistance exercises - flyes, calf raises, etc. I don’t see why you would go to failure on a programme where you’re working most muscle groups 3 times a week, period. [/quote]
[quote]thosebananas wrote:
G87 wrote:
IMO, a better idea would be:
Workout A
Squats 5x5
Bench press 5x5
Bent over row 5x5
Workout B
Chin-ups 5x5
Deadlifts 5x5
Overhead press 5x5
Plus some assistance exercises - flyes, calf raises, etc. I don’t see why you would go to failure on a programme where you’re working most muscle groups 3 times a week, period.
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Do the way it says. Add a grip workout if you have DL trouble. Farmers walk is great for grip.
keep the 1x5 DL the routine was written like that for a reason. as for the 21’s. Loose them.
as for the overhead press, up to u if u would keep it 5x5 or 3x5.
Are you kidding? Why would you dick around with 21 semi-half-assed reps? Why not be consistent and knock out 5x5 on bicep curls with a heavy enough weight to stimulate it? Or 5xfail is also a good choice. Maybe I am just a moron, but I found 21’s to be as useless as a football bat.[/quote]
mate what you chatting bout you ever tried doin em with a heavy weight!? so much harder than 5x5 on curls anyway!
If you think 21 reps, 14 of which are half-assed, is going to lead to hypertrophy, think again. Unless I am missing something huge, no one on these boards uses them. If you can do 21 reps with a “heavy” weight, then clearly the weight is not very heavy for you.
Others above have agreed with me. Maybe if you select an appropriate weight for the 5x5 you would be all set. 5xfail works excellently for me, assuming that fail is approx = 5.
21s is a hypertrophy exercise :
(from a google search)
“Build Massive Biceps with 21s”
“Buff up your biceps with the ‘21’ - The Fit List - msnbc.com”
“21s for biceps - Bodybuilding, Fitness and Health Forum …”
…but enough credence to an exercise that has no place in a beginners’ forum
Stronglifts is a fantastic program and website. However, somewhere you copied it down wrong.
Do you consider press ups to be dips? Anyway, do dips on workout A and drop the curls, for now. Dips are a fantastic exercise for the triceps and chest.
After having gone through the program (Starting Strength; similar) twice, I would do pull-ups over chin-ups. I found that the chins did not work the biceps nearly as much as was needed to stimulate growth.
Add curls in on every Friday. That is taken directly from the Starting Strength program.