What does everyone think of 5x5 traning, for mass. Also if anyone knows of any 5x5 programs I can find on the Internet.
Thanks
[quote]Emre wrote:
What does everyone think of 5x5 traning, for mass. [/quote]It is excellent. [quote]Also if anyone knows of any 5x5 programs I can find on the Internet.
Thanks[/quote]
You don’t need any set routine or program. Make up one of your own. Do every exercise you usually do, just do it 5x5. Experiment to see what works best for you.
I utilize 5x5 for nearly all of my movements, and enjoy it quite a bit. Poundages increase faster for me using this set-up.
Here’s hoping that’s really you in your avatar.
B.
I can’t seem to recover fast enough to do 5x5 at every workout. Rather, I only do 5x5 once a week, and usually on my Sunday workout when I’m really fresh. The other workouts use the more ‘traditional’ rep ranges.
My advice it to pick three big exercises - i.e the squat, bench and pullup. 5x5 with these three (3 mins rest between sets) gets you done in about 45 minutes total. You’ll be sore for days!! 
Rob Miller
Philadelphia, PA
I love 5x5, and it can be brutal if you’re using the right loads. Play around with it to find the right weights to train with. If you’re looking for specific programs that incorporate it, check out some of Waterbury’s.
[quote]Emre wrote:
What does everyone think of 5x5 traning, for mass. Also if anyone knows of any 5x5 programs I can find on the Internet.
Thanks[/quote]
Dude…pick a routine, go to the gym, start lifting and start eating! Stop asking these silly questions about programs for mass.
Read through the “Daily Tips” archive and re-read over the one posted by CT about training and intensity…that should provide all the answers you need.
The best 5x5 routine I ever did was Bill Starr’s. I gained a good bit of strength and size and stayed on it for about 8 weeks before I quit seeing results.
[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
Emre wrote:
What does everyone think of 5x5 traning, for mass. Also if anyone knows of any 5x5 programs I can find on the Internet.
Thanks
Dude…pick a routine, go to the gym, start lifting and start eating! Stop asking these silly questions about programs for mass.
Read through the “Daily Tips” archive and re-read over the one posted by CT about training and intensity…that should provide all the answers you need.[/quote]
Hey man,
Thanks for your concern, but I have been lifting for some time now, and I’m still lifting. Just wanted to start a new program, I just finished TBT.
Check out Ripped Rugged and Dense 2.0 by Joel Marion (google it), it’s perfect for cutting or bulking, just eat a lot if you wanna put on weight.
I do a variation on a 5X5 that is out of Berardi’s S2B book. I did all 4 of his phases and have gone back to this one because it was my favorite.
I like the replies from: kroby, JimmyRipp & Djwlfpack. IMHO fantastic replies. Smart replies!
As many know and are probally sick of my approach. I am a HUGE advocate of Ian Kings methods, and approach to training.
Want the fastest answer to your question?
Experiment, log & learn. It’s that simple.
If you realy want to maximize the 5x5. I would only do it on a select few lifts you want to exploit. You can’t make gains in everything. So focus on whats important to you and reduce the loads in unnecessary lifts.
I would recomend reading Ian Kings books Get Buffed I–>III and How to Write Strength Training programs.
Hope this helps
&
Good luck Amigo
Never tried it, but i just borrowed from a friend Bill Starrs “Strongest Shall Survive”, looks excellent, the key to not burning out on it seems to be the heavy day , light day , medium day set up, only on the heavy day are working at your 5RM, the medium day and light day workouts are 90% and 80% of your 5RM.they should be completed fairly easily.everyone i know who has tried it has seen good gains in strength and size, which is what got my interest. Not to mention its very simple and hard to mess up.
[quote]pegasus3 wrote:
Never tried it, but i just borrowed from a friend Bill Starrs “Strongest Shall Survive”, looks excellent, the key to not burning out on it seems to be the heavy day , light day , medium day set up, only on the heavy day are working at your 5RM, the medium day and light day workouts are 90% and 80% of your 5RM.they should be completed fairly easily.everyone i know who has tried it has seen good gains in strength and size, which is what got my interest. Not to mention its very simple and hard to mess up.[/quote]
Hard to mess up. That’s key for me and why I’ve stuck with 5x5 past the typical 8 week expiration date.
I love it, but I know that if I love it too much it will become eventually counterproductive. So I’m going to do EDT after I do the 5x5 for 12 weeks.
Prior to doing 5x5 I was a mess. My focus sucked, weights either felt too light or too heavy, and I kept fucking around with my rep ranges, probably a big detriment to my goals. But now, only having 5x5 keeps my head in the game, only referencing my log for poundages. It’s good for me, for now.
B.
Here is what I do for 5x5. Every five weeks I take a deload then switch the exercises if they aren’t producing. Then I switch the 5x5 to something like 6x4. These workouts are hard if you put everything into them.
I also do 4 extra workouts a week consiting of weak points (abs, upper back, triceps) and one full extra workout for neck and grip
A)Deadlift5x5 2 min rest
B)Pushpress 5x5 2 min rest
C)1 arm bent row 3x6-8 90 sec
D)Good morning 3x6-8 90 sec
Ei)Face pull 3x8-10
A)Bench Press5x5
B)Clean Pull 5x5
C)Lunges3x6-8 90 sec
D)Dumbell incline press 3x6-8 90 sec
ei)barbell rollout 3 to failure
A)Front Squat 5x5
B)Pull up 5x5
C)1 Arm military press3x6-8 90 sec
D) Rack Pull 3x6-8 90 sec
ei)Side lying external rotation 3x8-10
I love 5x5 training. Heres a link:
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table_of_contents_thread.htm#PART%20I:%20The%20Program
You can thank me later.
-J
[quote]JuliusA wrote:
I love 5x5 training. Heres a link:
Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos
table_of_contents_thread.htm#PART%20I:%20The%20Program
You can thank me later.
-J[/quote]
You beat me to it! Good stuff here…
5x5 is one of the first parameters I ever used, and it’s still my favorite. You can get a lot of mileage out of Bill Starr’s program. Plain and simple, it just fucking works.
5x5 is good for you.
So is Dan John’s article on the topic.
I have an upcoming article on the topic - should be out soon!
Stay strong
MR
[quote]Mike Robertson wrote:
I have an upcoming article on the topic - should be out soon!
Stay strong
MR
www.robertsontrainingsystems.com[/quote]
Good to hear, I’ll look forward to it!