finnee ill let you away with it 
thought u were just bein an asshole. . must be the steroids has me moody haha
My raw bench is a thing of bizzaro world for me. I sometimes struggle with 280lb’s and then another day 320lb’s will go up easier than the lighter weight.
Right now, I am trying to get a legit 405lb shirted bench. My ass comes up or a million other things happen with that weight. I am mind f**king it most likely!
Same as Hanely, my squat is pretty good compared to the bench.
If you’ve done 320 raw and haven’t hit 400 in a shirt you either need a tighter shirt or more lockout work!!
[quote]Hanley wrote:
If you’ve done 320 raw and haven’t hit 400 in a shirt you either need a tighter shirt or more lockout work!![/quote]
I have a Katana which is a 44 and pretty tight. I have watched your videos by the way on youtube…awesome! Wish I had those same guys lifting with me too. A good crew can make a lifting session even better. My one issue with my shirt is the arm pit. I cannot find a person who can get that damn thing set for me.
I was told that I need to work more lats as well by some experienced lifters at my last meet. I went 320, 350, and 405* (Too low on belly, no lift). I am wobbly in the Katana the last couple inches. Hey the wife and I are coming to Ireland this fall to visit family (Portumna) I should catch a workout with ya!
[quote]Naturallifter wrote:
Hanley wrote:
If you’ve done 320 raw and haven’t hit 400 in a shirt you either need a tighter shirt or more lockout work!!
I have a Katana which is a 44 and pretty tight. I have watched your videos by the way on youtube…awesome! Wish I had those same guys lifting with me too. A good crew can make a lifting session even better. My one issue with my shirt is the arm pit. I cannot find a person who can get that damn thing set for me.
I was told that I need to work more lats as well by some experienced lifters at my last meet. I went 320, 350, and 405* (Too low on belly, no lift). I am wobbly in the Katana the last couple inches. Hey the wife and I are coming to Ireland this fall to visit family (Portumna) I should catch a workout with ya!
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Thanks… we’ve a great crew in that gym. The shirt can be a right pain if you don’t get the arms seated properly. It can really tear the shit out of ya. What size arms do you have out of interest? I’ve borderline 17 inches flexed and I’ve got mine seated properly after one or two tries. Are you using bags/slippers to get the sleeves up?
as for being wobbly… I know your pain. Sure look at my vids. Half of them are just dumped onto me. Most of the time I still manage to find some way to press it, but I’m far from consistent!!
Let me know closer to the time when you’re over and we should see how are schedules match up!!
I got a question, whats up with you guys using shirts? Other then maybe letting your body get used to the heavier weight I just don’t see the point? Working out with a shirt wont do jack crap, so why not just stay raw? Thats like someone telling me they bench 450 on on a smith machine, so they bench like 315 on freeweights…cool. So whats the purpose other than saying “Yah I bench 400 lbs…with a bench shirt on”? just curious
In regards to getting the bench up, just make sure you use progressive overload. Never lift the same weight the same number of times over numerous workouts, your body won’t get stronger. If you can complete all your sets, add weight or another rep. Don’t stay the same or you’ll just hit a platuea and then you’re in for a long battle.
I was fortunate enough to have strength coaches write out my lift numbers and sets for me in HS and every workout they made me hit the same number of reps with atleast 5 lbs more weight. I walked in the gym, they handed me my sheet, I did what was written, and it worked. Went this way for 4 years and my strength and size skyrocketed. I went from benching 90 lbs as a freshman to setting the school record at 350 lbs the middle of senior year. Currently bench 410 as a college freshman.
Just keep adding the weight, get a spotter, and your body will be forced to get stronger. And in regards to the OP your test levels have dropped at your age so you really have to work your ass off. If you want to stay natural maybe try hitting up a test booster like tribulus or maybe even some BCAA’s. They both work
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I got a question, whats up with you guys using shirts? Other then maybe letting your body get used to the heavier weight I just don’t see the point? Working out with a shirt wont do jack crap, so why not just stay raw? Thats like someone telling me they bench 450 on on a smith machine, so they bench like 315 on freeweights…cool. So whats the purpose other than saying “Yah I bench 400 lbs…with a bench shirt on”? just curious
In regards to getting the bench up, just make sure you use progressive overload. Never lift the same weight the same number of times over numerous workouts, your body won’t get stronger. If you can complete all your sets, add weight or another rep. Don’t stay the same or you’ll just hit a platuea and then you’re in for a long battle.
I was fortunate enough to have strength coaches write out my lift numbers and sets for me in HS and every workout they made me hit the same number of reps with atleast 5 lbs more weight. I walked in the gym, they handed me my sheet, I did what was written, and it worked. Went this way for 4 years and my strength and size skyrocketed. I went from benching 90 lbs as a freshman to setting the school record at 350 lbs the middle of senior year. Currently bench 410 as a college freshman.
Just keep adding the weight, get a spotter, and your body will be forced to get stronger. And in regards to the OP your test levels have dropped at your age so you really have to work your ass off. If you want to stay natural maybe try hitting up a test booster like tribulus or maybe even some BCAA’s. They both work[/quote]
We use shirts because we compete in powerlifting meets…in gear! Don’t come in here lecturing us on why we shouldn’t be lifting in gear in your holier than thou tone, and I won’t lecture you on being too young to do AAS. Weak ass shit too if your school record was just 350lb’s in this day and age. I was a senior in high school in 1990, and we had kids lifting that, as well as a few lineman doing in the low 400’s.
To educate you, should you not understand powerlifting, we don’t use shirts or all the other assorted gear in every workout we do. It is tailored for it in the end yes, but most routes taken involve intense raw sets that build up to have a max effort single.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
I got a question, whats up with you guys using shirts? Other then maybe letting your body get used to the heavier weight I just don’t see the point? Working out with a shirt wont do jack crap, so why not just stay raw? Thats like someone telling me they bench 450 on on a smith machine, so they bench like 315 on freeweights…cool. So whats the purpose other than saying “Yah I bench 400 lbs…with a bench shirt on”? just curious
In regards to getting the bench up, just make sure you use progressive overload. Never lift the same weight the same number of times over numerous workouts, your body won’t get stronger. If you can complete all your sets, add weight or another rep. Don’t stay the same or you’ll just hit a platuea and then you’re in for a long battle.
I was fortunate enough to have strength coaches write out my lift numbers and sets for me in HS and every workout they made me hit the same number of reps with atleast 5 lbs more weight. I walked in the gym, they handed me my sheet, I did what was written, and it worked. Went this way for 4 years and my strength and size skyrocketed. I went from benching 90 lbs as a freshman to setting the school record at 350 lbs the middle of senior year. Currently bench 410 as a college freshman.
Just keep adding the weight, get a spotter, and your body will be forced to get stronger. And in regards to the OP your test levels have dropped at your age so you really have to work your ass off. If you want to stay natural maybe try hitting up a test booster like tribulus or maybe even some BCAA’s. They both work[/quote]
How do you know that “working out” with a shirt will do jack shit? Have you used one long enough to know that it bench shirts are totally pointless?
The guys on here that wear bench shirts wear them because they are powerlifters. They compete in equipped powerlifting competitions and training with a bench shirt helps them get bigger numbers when they wear their shirts in competition.
They didn’t just decide one day that they were going to blow 250 bucks on a two ply denim bench shirt because they thought it would give them bigger numbers and impress all the cardio bunnies at the local fitness center.
and, I can bench 550 on the smith machine
lol ok guy, you’re calling me “weak ass” and my current bench press is 5 lbs over the bench press you wish you had, using a shirt of course. GJ looking stupid, and i wonder how much you benched in highschool? Btw 350 lbs when i weighed 210 and was 6’2 is pretty good, Im glad you had fatasses that could bench in the 400’s though thx for filling me in.
All i asked is why you wear a shirt,and you get all pissy. Maybe you should do more raw benching and you wouldn’t be so weak? Im assuming you actually want to win these “competitions” right?
Idk why you are even talking about fucking shirts in this thread. maybe the OP should spend some cash on one and he’ll finally reach his goal? This is how to bench 300 lbs raw, not a sales pitch for bench shirts. But ty for eventually answering my orginal question on why you use shirts.
And buckeye girl in regards to your post…There just isnt a need for a shirt with those bench numbers, I didnt strap on a fucking shirt when I benched 280 so I could get to 315. And your last comment was gold hahahaha
And as to the too young for AAS bit, my bodyweight went from 160-240 lbs totally natural. Been at this game for 4 years, have my diet under control, have my workout planned. I have a great natural base and I know what I’m doing. Therefore AAS are not too early. I Have all my research taken care of, using proper procedures, and have my PCT set up.
So Its fine for me to use, and yah I know the 70mgs of test I produce naturally per week is MUCH better than 500mgs a week from AAS right? And unless you have used AAS(which I hope to God with your numbers you havent or that would just be embarassing) at some point, you are in no position to tell me or anyone else what to do in regards to them.
On the other hand heres something for you :
having 3 months of lifting experience/no diet/ and uneducated AAS use at 18 years old is like you benching 280 lbs and already using shirts to get a fake max
Since you want to give advice to me though, heres my bit for you: Go lift something heavy
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
lol ok guy, you’re calling me “weak ass” and my current bench press is 5 lbs over the bench press you wish you had, using a shirt of course. GJ looking stupid, and i wonder how much you benched in highschool? Btw 350 lbs when i weighed 210 and was 6’2 is pretty good, Im glad you had fatasses that could bench in the 400’s though thx for filling me in.
All i asked is why you wear a shirt,and you get all pissy. Maybe you should do more raw benching and you wouldn’t be so weak? Im assuming you actually want to win these “competitions” right?
Idk why you are even talking about fucking shirts in this thread. maybe the OP should spend some cash on one and he’ll finally reach his goal? This is how to bench 300 lbs raw, not a sales pitch for bench shirts. But ty for eventually answering my orginal question on why you use shirts.
And buckeye girl in regards to your post…There just isnt a need for a shirt with those bench numbers, I didnt strap on a fucking shirt when I benched 280 so I could get to 315. And your last comment was gold hahahaha
And as to the too young for AAS bit, my bodyweight went from 160-240 lbs totally natural. Been at this game for 4 years, have my diet under control, have my workout planned. I have a great natural base and I know what I’m doing. Therefore AAS are not too early. I Have all my research taken care of, using proper procedures, and have my PCT set up.
So Its fine for me to use, and yah I know the 70mgs of test I produce naturally per week is MUCH better than 500mgs a week from AAS right? And unless you have used AAS(which I hope to God with your numbers you havent or that would just be embarassing) at some point, you are in no position to tell me or anyone else what to do in regards to them.
On the other hand heres something for you :
having 3 months of lifting experience/no diet/ and uneducated AAS use at 18 years old is like you benching 280 lbs and already using shirts to get a fake max
Since you want to give advice to me though, heres my bit for you: Go lift something heavy[/quote]
You dumbfuck. Benching X number of pounds in a shirt is a completely different goal from benching X number of pounds raw. You don’t just put on a bench shirt and magically make your goal.
Obviously, we all have it wrong here. You dont use bench shirts to get bigger bench numbers, you use steroids. How could we be so stupid?!
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
lol ok guy, you’re calling me “weak ass” and my current bench press is 5 lbs over the bench press you wish you had, using a shirt of course. GJ looking stupid, and i wonder how much you benched in highschool? Btw 350 lbs when i weighed 210 and was 6’2 is pretty good, Im glad you had fatasses that could bench in the 400’s though thx for filling me in.
All i asked is why you wear a shirt,and you get all pissy. Maybe you should do more raw benching and you wouldn’t be so weak? Im assuming you actually want to win these “competitions” right?
Idk why you are even talking about fucking shirts in this thread. maybe the OP should spend some cash on one and he’ll finally reach his goal? This is how to bench 300 lbs raw, not a sales pitch for bench shirts. But ty for eventually answering my orginal question on why you use shirts.
And buckeye girl in regards to your post…There just isnt a need for a shirt with those bench numbers, I didnt strap on a fucking shirt when I benched 280 so I could get to 315. And your last comment was gold hahahaha
And as to the too young for AAS bit, my bodyweight went from 160-240 lbs totally natural. Been at this game for 4 years, have my diet under control, have my workout planned. I have a great natural base and I know what I’m doing. Therefore AAS are not too early. I Have all my research taken care of, using proper procedures, and have my PCT set up.
So Its fine for me to use, and yah I know the 70mgs of test I produce naturally per week is MUCH better than 500mgs a week from AAS right? And unless you have used AAS(which I hope to God with your numbers you havent or that would just be embarassing) at some point, you are in no position to tell me or anyone else what to do in regards to them.
On the other hand heres something for you :
having 3 months of lifting experience/no diet/ and uneducated AAS use at 18 years old is like you benching 280 lbs and already using shirts to get a fake max
Since you want to give advice to me though, heres my bit for you: Go lift something heavy[/quote]
Good thing your not an asshole…was wondering there for a second! Go ahead Mr. Badass tell me all of your vast experience of 4 years!!! Your a silly little boy in his first year as a man, and I can tell you right now that IF your as tough in real life as your want to sound on the internet, then somebody is gonna ring your bell.
Oh and yup you win with the “high school bench off” too Mr. Badass. I only did 275lb’s at 165lb’s.
Steroids builds muscles, not character.
Benchpress increases more slowly because the muscles moving the weight are smaller than those used in the squat and in the deadlift.
I never understood those that have a big bench and poor squat and deadlift, unless they have some kind of injury or have a bodytype very well suited to the benchpress, they must be weak in the mind.
To get strong in the squat and deadlift is all about training hard.
The benchpress is all about smart training and patience.
Continuity is the key to progress in all lifts.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
And unless you have used AAS(which I hope to God with your numbers you havent or that would just be embarassing) at some point, you are in no position to tell me or anyone else what to do in regards to them.
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WAHEY!!
Thanks for making that clear. Now we know not to listen to your stupid ignorant asinine comments on bench shirts because you’ve never used one so you’re in no position to tell me or anyone else what to do with them. Nice one smartass.
well Mr. naturallifter, this “silly little boy” is stronger than you, so how does that make you feel?
Hanley, I didn’t tell you what to do with them, I asked what was the point and why are you discussing the use of shirts in a “raw” thread. Maybe you could invent a bicep shirt and wow me with you curl numbers next though?
buckeye girl, I’ve known plenty of powerlifters in my day, went to school with a guy who was a 4 time state champ, won nationals, then went to the junior olympics, and he never used a shirt. He preferred to do his workouts raw. And yes, strapping on a shirt does let you reach your goal. are u kidding me? why else would they be used
I’m also hoping to hit 300+ one day.
got to 297lb (135kg) about 20years ago, lots of injuries etc.
So start again: got 120kg (264.5lb) before Christmas and 122.5kg last week, at least its moving up!
I’m 48 and lift w/o bench shirt for now.
yes!!! no bench shirt! that a boy old dax ;). Thats a rly good lift for someone your age. Most lifters I know your age can’t even bench press b/c of shoulder inuries haha so gj
I’m in the 300 club wee, max lift ever, 305 at 17 years old, around 180lbs.
Plateaued, but since my goal isn’t to have the biggest bench number I just switched my chest exercises do always be able to increase volume …
to answer triple 10set for me to go mid 200s to 300s was pretty easy just some time gym. 405 came good once i got it once but benching 450 has been annoying and ive been sick all weekend so i doubt tommorow in the gym is going to be good since ive only ate two pieces of chicken in 50 hour time frame. deadlifting squats and miltary press will increase your bench and really heavy db rows
from 245 begining of jan to 295 today, aiming for 315 this time in april (@ 168 lbs)