What is wrong is you choosing a bs pic to attempt tio support an incorrect point.
And light has to be from above? Where the hell does the light normally come from? The ground?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This isn’t new so accusing this man of particular drug use when the truth is you don’t have a clue what he does specifically is wrong.[/quote]
Also, I get a kick out of this. You think I look down on dude if he uses insulin? Many top pros accept it as part of the game. I have no problem with it. The end result just has to be presentable. You seem to want to attribute it to genetics, when clearly the younger pics show it was not. So mabey it isn’t from insulin, but the man clearly had the ability before to get abdominal definition.
[quote]BlackSabbath wrote:
What is wrong is you choosing a bs pic to attempt tio support an incorrect point.
And light has to be from above? Where the hell does the light normally come from? The ground?[/quote]
A BS pic? That picture is in the same “early photos” section of his own website. And you didn’t know that light isn’t just hitting you from directly above?
I proved you wrong. That picture would not exist otherwise. Deal with it.
Deal with that you avoided all of the pics I rattled off that clearly show his abdominal definition? You proved that your argument was weak. You had to see those other pics in his section when you went to it and instead chose to avoid them by using one that woudn’t show your gross error.
On his website, under early photos in the photo section, third pic down, 11th pic down, 19th pic down, 21st pic down, and the last pic. Dude had abs. Now, they are harder to see with increased distention.
Leo Ingram is one of the few men on the planet who has to be literally dried out in contest shape just to see any definition in that area.
o wow look whos right dex one. You guys have no idea how many people i told that dex would come in first and ronnie wouldnt and some people honestly made fun of me for it lol and the rest just said your crazy no way lol and look
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Leo Ingram is one of the few men on the planet who has to be literally dried out in contest shape just to see any definition in that area.[/quote]
But he can. Judges remember that shit. Look at how guys like darrem or dex can get penalized for being “off” when they are the most peeled onstage, just because they might not have duplicated their best condition that day. He has the ability to get abs. Dude made it to the big show, but is he wants to improve, he needs the abdominal definition. It is his most glaring weakness. He already has the size.
I’m sorry crod266 but your post are too funny lol.
[quote]BlackSabbath wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Leo Ingram is one of the few men on the planet who has to be literally dried out in contest shape just to see any definition in that area.
But he can.[/quote]
I wrote from the beginning that he does not have the traditional separation most see when that lean and it has been that way for him from the start. This means that while he has tendons in the area (he IS human), they are not deeply set like in most people. That means he has to suck every ounce of water out of his skin to be able to see them. It is truly not my fault that you can’t follow the discussion without pictures.
While he CAN get them to show, it seems to be very difficult for him to get in that condition. Few others would need to be that dried out to see their abs.
[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
I’m sorry crod266 but your post are too funny lol.[/quote]
lol what do you mean
[quote]Professor X wrote:
About Leo Ingram, I just find it fascinating that someone can be that ripped and still not show any ab separation. It shows that all humans do not have “six packs”. It also shouldn’t hold him back at all. Those tendons are not present in all people the way they are traditionally believed to be.[/quote]
I guess you have a very limited memory. Your words clearly state that you don’t think that he like some other humans has six pack. You think those tendons are not present. Mabey they are not for some people, but he clearly has them. I directed you to those pictures wich clearly show his abdominal definition in times past. They clearly show he indeed does have those tendons and the ability to get a six pack. Then came the “oh, but the light has to be from above…”, but the light isn’t from above in all the pics. Then came the “oh, but he has to be in contest shape…” but he is in contest shape at the olympia, therefore he should have abs as he did in previous contests if he was in proper shape. Stop trying to shift your argument man. Dude has the ability to get them.
Ah, so now you say he does have those tendons. Good to see you having a change of heart…
[quote]BlackSabbath wrote:
Professor X wrote:
About Leo Ingram, I just find it fascinating that someone can be that ripped and still not show any ab separation. It shows that all humans do not have “six packs”. It also shouldn’t hold him back at all. Those tendons are not present in all people the way they are traditionally believed to be.
I guess you have a very limited memory. Your words clearly state that you don’t think that he like some other humans has six pack. You think those tendons are not present. Mabey they are not for some people, but he clearly has them. I directed you to those pictures wich clearly show his abdominal definition in times past. They clearly show he indeed does have those tendons and the ability to get a six pack. Then came the “oh, but the light has to be from above…”, but the light isn’t from above in all the pics. Then came the “oh, but he has to be in contest shape…” but he is in contest shape at the olympia, therefore he should have abs as he did in previous contests if he was in proper shape. Stop trying to shift your argument man. Dude has the ability to get them. [/quote]
Just so you understand my background, I have dissected a human body including the abdominus rectus. I know that humans have tendons in the area. From now on I will assume that I need to write like a fucking elementary school teacher just so everyone can follow.
Or, you could just write clearly.
Also, you still went against your original point that it shouldn’t hold him back at all. He has the ability to get ripped enough to show his abdominal definition, shallow or not. He has demonstrated this in the past. So, if he can’t now, that may indeed be marked against him.
[quote]BlackSabbath wrote:
Or, you could just write clearly.
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It was clear enough. My goal was not to give a fucking anatomy lesson.
Also, your implications of needing to speak down to my lower elementary level, and how I need pictures to follow are rather amusing. Learn to argue without taking things personally. I find it strange you are attacking when we are both bodybuilding fans on a site that has not really been to pro bodybuilding in recent years. Too bad.
Ive taken anatomy, as well as a human dissection course Doctor. No need for a lesson here.
http://www.thebiguniverse.com/ingram/pic2.jpg
Is it just me, or does he look much better in that pic than he does now?
Also, in that very pic you can see that he had to be a) ultra-peeled, b)flexing his abs as hard as he could in order to show some ab-seperation (not exactly much, you can really see his genetic predisposition to detail-lacking abs here). Pretty much everyone else’s abs would look much better in that very pose.
If you can find a relaxed photo where he has a sixpack/eightpack/whatever showing, then I’ll give in…
Oh yeah, go Dexter!
And: Congrats to Dave H. for winning the 202!
Although Next year should be real hard for Dex to win… If Wolf finally manages to fill out (and not look so flat and tired as he did this time… Though he didn’t look bad or anything. And finally needs to bring up his weak areas).
Heath is another danger for dex next year, but imo can’t win due to being too new.
I’d have had Freeman placed higher this year…
Happy for Dex here… He got the perfect package/balance of all parts ('xcept calves) and the right conditioning imo.