10 Rules for Dealing with a Big Man

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[quote]TheSolution wrote:
Hanley wrote:

Dude. By your own admission, you’re 15. Stop trying to act like a hard ass.

You don’t know me, don’t know what I’ve seen, don’t know how much I know, don’t know anything about me really. Don’t act like you do then.

Then again, I don’t know anything about you either. So I’m not going to pass judgement about you, and I’d like the same respect back.

But if some punk is talking trash to you, are you just gonna sit there like a fool and take it? Put him in his place bro.[/quote]

Two things.

  1. Respect is earned not granted and is almost always nullified by asking for it.

  2. If at the age of 15 you think you have seen it all and the conclusion this has brought you to is engage physical confrontation with every big mouth you run across you are going to have a tough next couple of years.

Quit running your mouth on the internet.

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[quote]kilpaba wrote:
I typically don’t like to jump in on a back and forth on a thread, but WTF is up with the “…as you were” BS at the end of each of your posts? [/quote]

He said he isnt gonna post in here anymore.

as you were…

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[quote]TheSolution wrote:
Hanley wrote:
TheSolution wrote:
Great post man! Entertaining, true, and sometimes funny.

While I maybe only 185, 5’ 9", (shut up, I’m 15 and can only train 5 months out of the year because of sports haha) I’m still trying to become the “big guy.”

The only thing I disagree on, is 1). Because if some guy is talking trash to me, I’m going to rip his heart out and feed it to my dog.

Dude. By your own admission, you’re 15. Stop trying to act like a hard ass.

You don’t know me, don’t know what I’ve seen, don’t know how much I know, don’t know anything about me really. Don’t act like you do then.

Then again, I don’t know anything about you either. So I’m not going to pass judgement about you, and I’d like the same respect back.

But if some punk is talking trash to you, are you just gonna sit there like a fool and take it? Put him in his place bro.

There are a lot of trash-talking punks in the world. If you want to put them all in their place, you better be prepared to make it a full time job.

And if you keep fighting everyone who does it, eventually you’ll get your ass kicked; either through bad luck or running into someone who is simply better. And there is always someone better than you out there, no matter how good you are.

Sometimes you’ve got to fight. But at least do it to protect your friends, family, or some other GOOD reason. As in no matter how it ends up, you can look back and see it was worth it.
I mean, for fucks sake, excercise some fucking discretion.

Until you’ve gotten the stitches, spent the night in lockup wondering if you’re gonna get charged, and seen the blokes with broken jaws, noses and teeth, you really shouldn’t be making the decision to try to bash every punk who talks shit.

Maybe you should look at what those guys look like if they can’t come up with the cash to make their face look like it used to.

Maybe you could realise that while in theory fighting over little things in front of the girls will make them think you’re a “big man”; in reality when the blood is everywhere and they’ve been interviewed by the cops for an hour, odds are they’ll think you’re a monster.

But then again, what the fuck do I know? I mean, I don’t know you, and all I’m going from is the fact that you’re 15 and talking about starting fights over things which older and bigger guys don’t sweat.

Part of being a big dog is being able to ignore the little dogs yapping. [/quote]

Love it man, love it. “Part of being a big dog is being able to ignore the little dogs yapping” is the best line of wisdom I’ve read for a while. You’re very right in the fact that one shouldn’t go around bashing up everyone who talks trash, but there’s always those instances of those punks who need to be put in their place, don’t you agree?

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
TheSolution wrote:
Hanley wrote:

Dude. By your own admission, you’re 15. Stop trying to act like a hard ass.

You don’t know me, don’t know what I’ve seen, don’t know how much I know, don’t know anything about me really. Don’t act like you do then.

Then again, I don’t know anything about you either. So I’m not going to pass judgement about you, and I’d like the same respect back.

But if some punk is talking trash to you, are you just gonna sit there like a fool and take it? Put him in his place bro.

Two things.

  1. Respect is earned not granted and is almost always nullified by asking for it.

  2. If at the age of 15 you think you have seen it all and the conclusion this has brought you to is engage physical confrontation with every big mouth you run across you are going to have a tough next couple of years.

Quit running your mouth on the internet.
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I didn’t say I seen it all or anything nor did I try running my mouth off on the internet, sorry if I came off that way though. #1 of your post is very true though.

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[quote]smokotime wrote:

Part of being a big dog is being able to ignore the little dogs yapping.
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remember this, my whole outlook on life improved when I wasn’t confronting everyone who I thought was or said/did something stupid.

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[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
smokotime wrote:

Part of being a big dog is being able to ignore the little dogs yapping.

remember this, my whole outlook on life improved when I wasn’t confronting everyone who I thought was or said/did something stupid.[/quote]

Yup. It’s liek the guy who buys a middle of the range sports car. He needs to drive it fast so everyone can see how quick it is. Not like the guy who owns the Ferrari. HE knows it’s quick and YOU know it’s quick, so there’s no need to go around forcing the issue.

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I have a chevy, and I drive it slow, I guess its cause my bodyfat is so high.

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[quote]JGerman wrote:
This is great! I picture you guys sitting around in a circle crying and saying how used and dirty you feel because people that hang around you talk schmidt when you are around and you get asked, 'do you play ball?"…

as you were…[/quote]

Do you lift?

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[quote]TheSolution wrote:
Love it man, love it. “Part of being a big dog is being able to ignore the little dogs yapping” is the best line of wisdom I’ve read for a while. You’re very right in the fact that one shouldn’t go around bashing up everyone who talks trash, but there’s always those instances of those punks who need to be put in their place, don’t you agree?[/quote]

Yes, there are situations when you need to use violence. But those situations are very few and far between, and you have to be prepared for the consequences. If you aren’t prepared to be carted off to hospital yourself or front a court over it, it really isn’t worth it.

I think that cheap talk coming from someone you’ve never met before and never will meet again isn’t worth it. Hell, even if it’s people I deal with every day, unless it gets to the stage when it’s starting to make my life a misery it still isn’t worth it.
Get a little fresh with the girls I know after they’ve told you to piss off, and then stand there saying what the hell am I going to do to stop you, well…
I’d quite happily step in front of a judge sans a few of my own teeth to explain why the hell I sent you to hospital. I’d be smiling a big fucking toothless grin the whole time, too.

You have to draw your own lines that you don’t allow to be crossed without repercussions. And you better be prepared to do what you need to do without fear or favour; whether it’s one guy or a group, Mike Tyson or a 105 pound punk.

If you aren’t prepared to do that, then you don’t “need” to do it; you’re just doing it because you think you can kick his ass without getting hurt, and because you enjoy the way it makes you feel. In short you’d be an asshole, and when someone finally takes your ass down HARD you’d have had it coming for a while.

Look, to be brutally honest, the combination of your age, the tone of your first couple of posts and the phrase “put in their place” doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that you’ll exercise the discretion and maturity required to avoid becoming the douchebag I described.

I normally don’t get involved in this sorta stuff because most of the time people get involved because what someone else said pissed them off, and then when it turns into a shitfight you might as well be spitting in the ocean.
It’s simply that too many people buy into this whole hardass act thing, and the world gets a little crappier because of it. They try to turn everything into a fight when they have no idea of what can happen if it’s a “real” fight. And also, hell, I was 15 once too. I don’t want you to end up being part of the problem, or have your folks go through their son getting brutally beaten because he felt he needed to try to knock somebody into line over some minor bullshit.

I’m not trying to attack you, it’s just there’s plenty of people who believe the opinions you said completely and without reservation. I mean, they don’t even fucking THINK!
I got fed up with it all and let out a rant. Hopefully you’ve at least changed your stance a little since this started. If not, well, I tried and this is my last post in this thread regardless.

As usual I’ve gone on way too long. I’m gonna step off my soapbox and get outta this thread before I clog it up even further.

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[quote]smokotime wrote:
TheSolution wrote:
Love it man, love it. “Part of being a big dog is being able to ignore the little dogs yapping” is the best line of wisdom I’ve read for a while. You’re very right in the fact that one shouldn’t go around bashing up everyone who talks trash, but there’s always those instances of those punks who need to be put in their place, don’t you agree?

Yes, there are situations when you need to use violence. But those situations are very few and far between, and you have to be prepared for the consequences. If you aren’t prepared to be carted off to hospital yourself or front a court over it, it really isn’t worth it.

I think that cheap talk coming from someone you’ve never met before and never will meet again isn’t worth it. Hell, even if it’s people I deal with every day, unless it gets to the stage when it’s starting to make my life a misery it still isn’t worth it.

Get a little fresh with the girls I know after they’ve told you to piss off, and then stand there saying what the hell am I going to do to stop you, well…

I’d quite happily step in front of a judge sans a few of my own teeth to explain why the hell I sent you to hospital. I’d be smiling a big fucking toothless grin the whole time, too.

You have to draw your own lines that you don’t allow to be crossed without repercussions. And you better be prepared to do what you need to do without fear or favour; whether it’s one guy or a group, Mike Tyson or a 105 pound punk.

If you aren’t prepared to do that, then you don’t “need” to do it; you’re just doing it because you think you can kick his ass without getting hurt, and because you enjoy the way it makes you feel. In short you’d be an asshole, and when someone finally takes your ass down HARD you’d have had it coming for a while.

Look, to be brutally honest, the combination of your age, the tone of your first couple of posts and the phrase “put in their place” doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that you’ll exercise the discretion and maturity required to avoid becoming the douchebag I described.

I normally don’t get involved in this sorta stuff because most of the time people get involved because what someone else said pissed them off, and then when it turns into a shitfight you might as well be spitting in the ocean.

It’s simply that too many people buy into this whole hardass act thing, and the world gets a little crappier because of it. They try to turn everything into a fight when they have no idea of what can happen if it’s a “real” fight. And also, hell, I was 15 once too.

I don’t want you to end up being part of the problem, or have your folks go through their son getting brutally beaten because he felt he needed to try to knock somebody into line over some minor bullshit.

I’m not trying to attack you, it’s just there’s plenty of people who believe the opinions you said completely and without reservation. I mean, they don’t even fucking THINK!

I got fed up with it all and let out a rant. Hopefully you’ve at least changed your stance a little since this started. If not, well, I tried and this is my last post in this thread regardless.

As usual I’ve gone on way too long. I’m gonna step off my soapbox and get outta this thread before I clog it up even further.[/quote]

That’s very well said, but since he’s 15 it’s likely a waste. He’ll get a wake up call in about three years. Whether it comes on the street or in a jail cell is up to him.

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[quote]TheSolution wrote:
Hanley wrote:
TheSolution wrote:
Great post man! Entertaining, true, and sometimes funny.

While I maybe only 185, 5’ 9", (shut up, I’m 15 and can only train 5 months out of the year because of sports haha) I’m still trying to become the “big guy.”

The only thing I disagree on, is 1). Because if some guy is talking trash to me, I’m going to rip his heart out and feed it to my dog.

Dude. By your own admission, you’re 15. Stop trying to act like a hard ass.

You don’t know me, don’t know what I’ve seen, don’t know how much I know, don’t know anything about me really. Don’t act like you do then.

Then again, I don’t know anything about you either. So I’m not going to pass judgement about you, and I’d like the same respect back.

But if some punk is talking trash to you, are you just gonna sit there like a fool and take it? Put him in his place bro.[/quote]

You don’t know me! You don’t know me!

lol classic

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[quote]Hanley wrote:
Yup. It’s liek the guy who buys a middle of the range sports car. He needs to drive it fast so everyone can see how quick it is. Not like the guy who owns the Ferrari. HE knows it’s quick and YOU know it’s quick, so there’s no need to go around forcing the issue.[/quote]

aww shite…I think I just got owned :frowning: Haha

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I may have to apologize for ever posting this. I did it in fun. Right out of the box, the as you were troll with the napolean complex start in. A kid with the same maturity as the as you were guy starts an internet fight and pisses some of the regulars off.

The problem with the little dogs yapping is that it just gets annoying at times.

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As you were.

HAhahahahah. So fuckn stupid.

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I have nothing but respect for people who really are massively big and strong, but I wish the people who think that means them because of a number on the bathroom scale regardless of their bodyfat level or their lifts - every gym has a few - would wake up. The OP mentioned 230lb as a threshold. I agree. But not if someone is 20% bodyfat.

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[quote]hoosegow wrote:
A buddy of mine and I were talking the other day about what we wish “normal people” knew about us. I typed it up and sent it to him. Maybe this should go into “Get a Life” but I thought more in this forum could relate. Flame away.

10 Rules for Dealing with a Big Man

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To the OP,

I know I’ve read this before somewhere and the format was obviously cut and pasted.

Great read, but did you write this yourself?

I smell plagarism.

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[quote]hoosegow wrote:

Second, we don�??t care what your friend does or did. We aren�??t competing with your friend and stop trying to make yourself feel good by tearing us down. Men of iron understand the effort and applaud the progress of others. You are just a hanger on. Shut up.

[/quote]

I remember not too long ago during the spring I was doing Dips with maybe 100 pounds or so and one of my teammates tells me “Hey, I thought you were stronger than that.”

“Whatta you mean?” I reply. “Why don’t you put this dip belt on and try?”

He then proceeds to tell me that one of his friends maxes out on Dips with 7 Plates. And he supposedly weighs only 190 pounds himself. When I asked him where he got a chain long enough to accommodate 7 45s, why he just didn’t use 100 pound plates, or why his friend had never competed in powerlifting,

he didn’t have any response other than that I just “couldn’t handle” the idea of someone being that much stronger than me.

Another time, back in high school, some prick who I rarely talk to bragged about how his cousin was stronger than me because he took cow steroids. What? Am I supposed to feel shame because I’m not brave or stupid enough to take animal hormones in my pursuit of strength?

The worst is when people feel the need to tell me about the awesome gains they’re making, only for me to find out that their Bench Press is so huge because all they do is take it out of the racks and re-rack it, and that their squat is out of this world because suddenly a Leg Press = a Squat if Cybex Calls it a “Squat Press.”

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It kinda got passed over there in regards to the ‘fight’ issue, and was asked and not re-addressed:

If someone 'talks sh*t" about you, how does it go?

  1. You take the bait - You pummel 'em and get called a bully, or are told “what do you expect - you’re BIGGER than him!” and are to blame.

  2. You let it slide - they continue on and ruin your day/evening/whatever by dropping those little comments as listed here - “See, he’s all size but a pussy”. “Being big doesn’t mean you’re tough!” or somesuch crap.

Most big guys know they can’t win in this situation. I also know that my ability to deadlift big weights isn’t going to help much with a living, possibly drunk human being (unless I do knock him out and have to move a body!).

But just like in the animal kingdom, size appeals to the IDEA or THREAT of power and it intimidates, as it should…but I don’t lift to be ‘tough’, and I don’t think most do.

And to anyone that missed the point and told MegaNewb to ‘go play football’ was wrong - we COVERED that it’s not about ‘playing ball’, but that poster seemed to be fairly football-centric, given his profile.

And I’ll echo the comment that ANY 15 year old who thinks he’s SEEN SO MUCH yet still thinks resorting to violence is the wise-beyond-his-years best option is lying.

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[quote]smokotime wrote:
TheSolution wrote:
Love it man, love it. “Part of being a big dog is being able to ignore the little dogs yapping” is the best line of wisdom I’ve read for a while. You’re very right in the fact that one shouldn’t go around bashing up everyone who talks trash, but there’s always those instances of those punks who need to be put in their place, don’t you agree?

Yes, there are situations when you need to use violence. But those situations are very few and far between, and you have to be prepared for the consequences. If you aren’t prepared to be carted off to hospital yourself or front a court over it, it really isn’t worth it.

I think that cheap talk coming from someone you’ve never met before and never will meet again isn’t worth it. Hell, even if it’s people I deal with every day, unless it gets to the stage when it’s starting to make my life a misery it still isn’t worth it.
Get a little fresh with the girls I know after they’ve told you to piss off, and then stand there saying what the hell am I going to do to stop you, well…
I’d quite happily step in front of a judge sans a few of my own teeth to explain why the hell I sent you to hospital. I’d be smiling a big fucking toothless grin the whole time, too.

You have to draw your own lines that you don’t allow to be crossed without repercussions. And you better be prepared to do what you need to do without fear or favour; whether it’s one guy or a group, Mike Tyson or a 105 pound punk.

If you aren’t prepared to do that, then you don’t “need” to do it; you’re just doing it because you think you can kick his ass without getting hurt, and because you enjoy the way it makes you feel. In short you’d be an asshole, and when someone finally takes your ass down HARD you’d have had it coming for a while.

Look, to be brutally honest, the combination of your age, the tone of your first couple of posts and the phrase “put in their place” doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that you’ll exercise the discretion and maturity required to avoid becoming the douchebag I described.

I normally don’t get involved in this sorta stuff because most of the time people get involved because what someone else said pissed them off, and then when it turns into a shitfight you might as well be spitting in the ocean.
It’s simply that too many people buy into this whole hardass act thing, and the world gets a little crappier because of it. They try to turn everything into a fight when they have no idea of what can happen if it’s a “real” fight. And also, hell, I was 15 once too. I don’t want you to end up being part of the problem, or have your folks go through their son getting brutally beaten because he felt he needed to try to knock somebody into line over some minor bullshit.

I’m not trying to attack you, it’s just there’s plenty of people who believe the opinions you said completely and without reservation. I mean, they don’t even fucking THINK!
I got fed up with it all and let out a rant. Hopefully you’ve at least changed your stance a little since this started. If not, well, I tried and this is my last post in this thread regardless.

As usual I’ve gone on way too long. I’m gonna step off my soapbox and get outta this thread before I clog it up even further.[/quote]

Again, alot of wisdom here bro. A little too much to comment on actually, but I just want you to know you are right, and yes, you really have changed my stance a little. I DO got to ignore the “little dogs yapping,” and I do have my lines that need to be crossed before I get into a fight, and I kind of failed to mention that… Thanks for everything man.

Shame to the people though who said I was a “kid starting an internet fight” or what have you, because I was simply starting a debate, there was no flaming going on here or anything, so really this is harmless. And look at all the wisdom smokotime gave us! Haha.

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[quote]LightsOutLuthor wrote:
It kinda got passed over there in regards to the ‘fight’ issue, and was asked and not re-addressed:

If someone 'talks sh*t" about you, how does it go?

  1. You take the bait - You pummel 'em and get called a bully, or are told “what do you expect - you’re BIGGER than him!” and are to blame.

  2. You let it slide - they continue on and ruin your day/evening/whatever by dropping those little comments as listed here - “See, he’s all size but a pussy”. “Being big doesn’t mean you’re tough!” or somesuch crap.

Most big guys know they can’t win in this situation. I also know that my ability to deadlift big weights isn’t going to help much with a living, possibly drunk human being (unless I do knock him out and have to move a body!).

But just like in the animal kingdom, size appeals to the IDEA or THREAT of power and it intimidates, as it should…but I don’t lift to be ‘tough’, and I don’t think most do.

And to anyone that missed the point and told MegaNewb to ‘go play football’ was wrong - we COVERED that it’s not about ‘playing ball’, but that poster seemed to be fairly football-centric, given his profile.

And I’ll echo the comment that ANY 15 year old who thinks he’s SEEN SO MUCH yet still thinks resorting to violence is the wise-beyond-his-years best option is lying.

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I’m going to go off on this a little. I’m in highschool, I know EXACTLY how the guy feels. I had all sorts of little jealous football players (although not all of them, a lot of them are pretty tight) perpetually hanging off my nuts all year. I know what it’s like to want to smash heads in because you can only take so much.

But after so long, it really does settle out. And really your best way to resolve these situations are by letting them know you aren’t going to deal with their shit. Period. Once you give a warning, and try to solve a problem, there isn’t much else you can do.

However most people aren’t actually trying to hurt you anyways. They are just trying to make their friends laugh. A direct confrontation in front of said friends usually ends any further conflict.

Bud, take a page out of my book. I’ve been there. Fights are only fun the first few times, and when you aren’t eating cement becuase 5 guys jumped you.