Zraw's First BBing Show

[quote]timmcbride00 wrote:
Outstanding, last two vids look great.

And based on what I see, you will be one of, if not thee, driest on the stage. Great work.[/quote]

Thanks man! I think what ill do from now until prep is just take as many videos as I can instead of pictures lol! Hope you guys dont get bored the f out haha

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]timmcbride00 wrote:
Outstanding, last two vids look great.

And based on what I see, you will be one of, if not thee, driest on the stage. Great work.[/quote]

Thanks man! I think what ill do from now until prep is just take as many videos as I can instead of pictures lol! Hope you guys dont get bored the f out haha[/quote]

Never get bored of 'em!

This thread is informative AND entertaining!

Going for dryness lol

holy vascularity

There we go!

Finally a video that I feel display properly where im at

damn bro lookin a lot leaner, 1:12 reminded me of branch warren lol

looking great man, can’t wait to see the final product. have you ever put tan and all that oil crap on before?

[quote]PB Andy wrote:
looking great man, can’t wait to see the final product. have you ever put tan and all that oil crap on before?[/quote]

I have not but I got myself covered the only “spraytanner” allowed on site is the uncle of one of my friend so I dont have much to wordy about there

[quote]myself1992 wrote:
damn bro lookin a lot leaner, 1:12 reminded me of branch warren lol[/quote]

Hahh :slight_smile:

But Branch has 0 aesthetic idk if I like that loll

You look ready to me. Very good condition and good posing but I’m hardly an expert.

Tell us a bit more about your off-season plan. We know about Meadow but anything else planned?

I also wanted to bow my head to you for showing people what can be done when you set a clear goal and do everything needed to get there (research who the right people are, hire those people, research chems & take them accordingly, be open to criticism like posing and acting on it, etc.). Well fucking done, sir!!

ps: Btw, I think your thread is THE single best ad for getting on a bicycle ever. I mean, am I the only one who wants to do “it” more with every post Z makes?!? haha

[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
You look ready to me. Very good condition and good posing but I’m hardly an expert.

Tell us a bit more about your off-season plan. We know about Meadow but anything else planned?

I also wanted to bow my head to you for showing people what can be done when you set a clear goal and do everything needed to get there (research who the right people are, hire those people, research chems & take them accordingly, be open to criticism like posing and acting on it, etc.). Well fucking done, sir!!

ps: Btw, I think your thread is THE single best ad for getting on a bicycle ever. I mean, am I the only one who wants to do “it” more with every post Z makes?!? haha[/quote]

Hey man! Thanks a lot for the comment

Ok here we go for offseason :

1st off, my offseason will last more than a full year. Between 14 to 16 months depending on if i can win the overall in 12 days or not (winning would qualify me for provincials 2013-2014, id do 2014. Not winning id have to do a show at the end of march 2014. Just DOING the sow gets you a qualifier so I wouldnt peak for it lol)

Training : ill be working with John all offseason and prep. Firat goal will be to bring my back up. I want to turn into into a “wow wtf” bodypart. Arms will have a lot of focus put on too. After that well… we will see where im at

I know JM wants me on a 8x/week prog. I have time for that and recovery wont be a problem, esp with Plazma (it really does make a difference allother things being equal)

Diet wise ill go by myself using a kinda carb cycling approach with a few cheat meals per week (2-3). If its not going too well ill go back with Skip. One thing for sure here is that i wont be lettingmyself go too soft.

A first for me will also be to NOT go on a “cut” for summer

Overall im hoping to add 10-12lbs of stage weight given the circumstances etc etc

Hope this answers your question.

Oh btw ill def go back to using Biotest products peri workout. The difference between how a “homemadr” carbs + peptopro + glycerol vs plazma is crazy… and I went at it thinking it would be the exact same thing
Wrong

Oh and ill also be using indigo as I think this will benefit me when trying to grow on high carbs. I think even when using super sulps regular supplements can be very beneficial if used correctly

About the low back stuff, not that you’re not huge or ripped or anything; banded 45 degree hypers are -bruuuutal-

[quote]mr-madworld wrote:
About the low back stuff, not that you’re not huge or ripped or anything; banded 45 degree hypers are -bruuuutal-[/quote]

Oh i know meadows has me do these a lot! My lower back growth is just slower than my hams growth heh

Lots of people have made comments about assistance.

Can I say that I feel it is a bit insulting towards ZRAW?

ZRAW has clearly worked his tail off in the gym and the kitchen to get the size and conditioning he’s achieved.

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[quote]timmcbride00 wrote:
Lots of people have made comments about assistance.

Can I say that I feel it is a bit insulting towards ZRAW?

ZRAW has clearly worked his tail off in the gym and the kitchen to get the size and conditioning he’s achieved.

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End Rant[/quote]

If by “assistance” you mean “the s word”, the problem is he looks just as good, if not better than, many who do use. Easy for folks to presume he isn’t natural, especially when not only do they not understand what’s possible, but also the effort required. I’m trying to be careful here, but hopefully ZRAW takes these comments as complements. I do not want to open Pandora’s box in such an inspiring thread.

[quote]timmcbride00 wrote:
Lots of people have made comments about assistance.

Can I say that I feel it is a bit insulting towards ZRAW?

ZRAW has clearly worked his tail off in the gym and the kitchen to get the size and conditioning he’s achieved.

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End Rant[/quote]

I dunno, I really haven’t seen anyone bringing it up in a negative fashion, or trying to take anything away from what he’s accomplished.

Anyone claiming it’s “all drugs” etc etc is obviously an idiot, but it’s also silly to pretend that it doesn’t make quite a difference, and I’ve seen Zraw be the first to admit that, he’s been fairly open about it.

I think you’re right that people trying to put down users as not having had to work as hard does happen a lot, but I think IN THIS THREAD I haven’t seen anyone be insulting about it, and I think it’s actually a good thing to be able to talk about it openly, without there being negative connotations associated with it, especially on a more mainstream site like this.

[quote]timmcbride00 wrote:
Lots of people have made comments about assistance.

Can I say that I feel it is a bit insulting towards ZRAW?

ZRAW has clearly worked his tail off in the gym and the kitchen to get the size and conditioning he’s achieved.

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End Rant[/quote]

ridiculous post. it makes a huge difference ffs. it’s extremely relevant.

bizarre you have brought this up no one has been negative to OP in whole thread.

zraw - looking good keep it up.

[quote]zraw wrote:

I know JM wants me on a 8x/week prog. I have time for that and recovery wont be a problem, esp with Plazma (it really does make a difference allother things being equal)
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Do you know what that set up will look like? I remember him posting this as his higher frequency split:
Sat - brutal Legs Sun - brutal chest/shoulders Mon - brutal back (not lower)
Tues - not so brutal legs w/ lower back Wed - not so brutal chest/shoulders
Thurs â?? arms Fri - upper back

Even with super supplements though I feel like recovery could be an issue. Idk, I’m always back and forth between some guys like Meadows and Thibaudeau talking about doing stuff every day and then others like Dante, Big A, IronAddict strongly advocating just 3-4 days/week with moderate volume saying any more than that will really hamper results. Especially when cutting (which I’m doing until Saturday) even though I know Meadows was doing something like 8 workouts per week in his most recent prep.

You’re looking sicker and nastier in every updated pic.

You’re going to absolutely destroy at the show. I know it goes without saying, but keep it up! Haha