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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Beth there are guys out there who will love you and love your kid because he is a part of you. You just have to find them. [/quote]

Not singling you out here jb I just want to go further on my opinion of this type of statement and why I think it is wrong.

People should never just expect that the perfect person is out there for them if they in fact are not perfect themselves. You will only attract as good of a partner as you can be as one. Does that make sense?

Everyone had flaws and most people who cant find what they want, usually have an expectation that they themselves cannot live up to. I was such a person. I also notice that most guys who claim there are no good women out there, and ‘they are all sluts’ etc tend to be promiscuous untrusting people so go figure.

I also have observed many women who claim there are no decent men out there, but fail to offer something that a decent man would want in a mate. They usually tend to be codependant people who want someone to take care of and serve them emotionally/financially etc(this goes for men too).

The same dynamic happens inside already existing relationships. How many time do you hear men complain about a sexless marraige? Yet do they take care of themselves physically? Do they have proper grooming? You get the point.

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Never chase a woman. Chase excellence and pussy will chase you.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Never chase a woman. Chase excellence and pussy will chase you.[/quote]

Think i read that under a Snapple Cap once…

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Never chase a woman. Chase excellence and pussy will chase you.[/quote]

Think i read that under a Snapple Cap once… [/quote]

Possible.

But if you are drinking Snapple, it is doubtful you are chasing excellence.

Well, maybe the diet Ice-T. It’s OK.

Lately all I drink (flavored drink wise) is Poweraide Zero cut with water.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Beth there are guys out there who will love you and love your kid because he is a part of you. You just have to find them. [/quote]

Not singling you out here jb I just want to go further on my opinion of this type of statement and why I think it is wrong.

People should never just expect that the perfect person is out there for them if they in fact are not perfect themselves. You will only attract as good of a partner as you can be as one. Does that make sense?

Everyone had flaws and most people who cant find what they want, usually have an expectation that they themselves cannot live up to. I was such a person. I also notice that most guys who claim there are no good women out there, and ‘they are all sluts’ etc tend to be promiscuous untrusting people so go figure.

I also have observed many women who claim there are no decent men out there, but fail to offer something that a decent man would want in a mate. They usually tend to be codependant people who want someone to take care of and serve them emotionally/financially etc(this goes for men too).

The same dynamic happens inside already existing relationships. How many time do you hear men complain about a sexless marraige? Yet do they take care of themselves physically? Do they have proper grooming? You get the point. [/quote]

Yeah it makes sense. I had some stuff similar to that typed out in my forever long post that got out of control. I threw up the white flag and just generalized but in short I agree with you. I have far more thoughts on this subject than what I have managed to articulate (mostly out of laziness and am somewhat wondering why I got involved in this thread ha.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
Never chase a woman. Chase excellence and pussy will chase you.[/quote]

Think i read that under a Snapple Cap once… [/quote]

Possible.

But if you are drinking Snapple, it is doubtful you are chasing excellence.

Well, maybe the diet Ice-T. It’s OK.

Lately all I drink (flavored drink wise) is Poweraide Zero cut with water.[/quote]

That made me laugh pretty hard.

btw you need to get on the mio water enhancer bandwagon. The Mio Fit purple and blue tast EXACTLY like the powerade zero flavors.

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Just my opinion below, danger This isn’t directed at anyone either.

Women with kids are damaged goods. I personally do not like children. They are expensive, obnoxious, and needy. Childbirth really does quite a bit of damage to the aesthetics of the female body. Some women get off easy, but most have stretch marks and pancaked tits. If a woman, I married bore my children. I would have no problem with pregnancy associated scarring.(time for fake bewbs and a tummie tuck)

The other problem I have is with the whole baby daddy culture. Women have right to choose to breed with anyone they want. However, WIC, welfare, food stamps, and the piles of tax breaks single mother receive creates a culture of irresponsibility. It takes a chunk out everyone’s bottom line who was responsible and works hard. I am not saying that every single mother is on social welfare, however a majority are. On an absolute level responsibility lies squarely on men who don’t protect their seed.

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[quote]orion wrote:

looking good means shit. [/quote]
what do you mean?
looking good helps. it won’t make up for a huge deficit in game but girls are shallow sometimes.

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[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Just my opinion below, danger This isn’t directed at anyone either.

Women with kids are damaged goods. I personally do not like children. They are expensive, obnoxious, and needy. Childbirth really does quite a bit of damage to the aesthetics of the female body. Some women get off easy, but most have stretch marks and pancaked tits. If a woman, I married bore my children. I would have no problem with pregnancy associated scarring.(time for fake bewbs and a tummie tuck)

The other problem I have is with the whole baby daddy culture. Women have right to choose to breed with anyone they want. However, WIC, welfare, food stamps, and the piles of tax breaks single mother receive creates a culture of irresponsibility. It takes a chunk out everyone’s bottom line who was responsible and works hard. I am not saying that every single mother is on social welfare, however a majority are. On an absolute level responsibility lies squarely on men who don’t protect their seed. [/quote]

Could this opinion change if you met a woman with a kid, dating her without kids at first, and fall in love ?

I am living with a woman who has children, I am ok with it (but I like the kids, and I enjoy being with them)… Did not know at first if the “meet the children” would be easy tho.

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[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

looking good means shit. [/quote]
what do you mean?
looking good helps. it won’t make up for a huge deficit in game but girls are shallow sometimes.[/quote]

According to CaptainOblivious, men are way more shallow. Maybe it’s a human thing.

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[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

looking good means shit. [/quote]
what do you mean?
looking good helps. it won’t make up for a huge deficit in game but girls are shallow sometimes.[/quote]

I wonder how many people who say stuff like that actually ARE handsome.

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[quote]RootX wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
Just my opinion below, danger This isn’t directed at anyone either.

Women with kids are damaged goods. I personally do not like children. They are expensive, obnoxious, and needy. Childbirth really does quite a bit of damage to the aesthetics of the female body. Some women get off easy, but most have stretch marks and pancaked tits. If a woman, I married bore my children. I would have no problem with pregnancy associated scarring.(time for fake bewbs and a tummie tuck)

The other problem I have is with the whole baby daddy culture. Women have right to choose to breed with anyone they want. However, WIC, welfare, food stamps, and the piles of tax breaks single mother receive creates a culture of irresponsibility. It takes a chunk out everyone’s bottom line who was responsible and works hard. I am not saying that every single mother is on social welfare, however a majority are. On an absolute level responsibility lies squarely on men who don’t protect their seed. [/quote]

Could this opinion change if you met a woman with a kid, dating her without kids at first, and fall in love ?

I am living with a woman who has children, I am ok with it (but I like the kids, and I enjoy being with them)… Did not know at first if the “meet the children” would be easy tho.
[/quote]

Absolutely not.

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[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

looking good means shit. [/quote]
what do you mean?
looking good helps. it won’t make up for a huge deficit in game but girls are shallow sometimes.[/quote]

According to CaptainOblivious, men are way more shallow. Maybe it’s a human thing.[/quote]

It’s absolutely a human thing.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

In my opinion(see how that works people?) it has to do with personal preference desire to be around children. I would also assume that most men, like myself, who have never had a child, or a nephew/neice etc will not welcome the situation because we have no desire or comfort level to be around children. I can also say the same thing for cats and women who have them. Luckily for you there are billions of people in the world. Tons of options.

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Yup tonz of options - for getting a piece of ass. And maybe its ok just to settle for that. I totally get that guys are uncomfy with kids, especially 6 year old girls. [/quote]

Pessimism has no place in someone’s mind if they are trying to find what you are looking for. You end up projecting it and thus push what you are looking for away. Kind of like how dogs can tell if you are nervous or scared of touching them.

Plent of men have children, have had children or want children. If you make the decision prior that you will never find one, you wont. Much like guys like Walkway claim in confidence that there are no good women out there, they are just making it a reality. No different than poor people saying ‘ill never be rich’. Of coarse not. Nobody who says that ever will. [/quote]

This is true. I stand corrected. Thank you for insight.[/quote]

no problem. I used to be like that in the past. Was very misogynistic and went on a tear that I am still to this day not proud of. I thought all women were sluts and the like. Finally one day I admitted to myself that I was really just lonely and missed being in love with someone who loved me back in truth and casual encounters made the feeling worse not better. I made an active decision to change my thoughts about women and such. Even got a tattoo to permantly remind me of who I am inside and what I want. Wrote down on paper what I wanted out of a partner and what I was willing to change about myself to attract that kind of person.

Met my now fiance 1 month on the day from that. She lived in a different country, was on her last day of vacation. We fell in love the second we met, found away to stay together even though we lived in two different continents for almost 8 months. We will be married soon. Never been happier. Everything worth having in life is earned not given, same comes for finding a partner.

Also remember that ANY change in your thoughts and behavior will bring a change in results. Start small, but start.

EDIT- my fiance when I met her was a virgin, she is well educated, comes from a successful and wealthy family, was and is a gym rat(my training and diet partner most days) and enjoys the same things I do(fashion, reading, personsal development) and as I proved already with some pics, she is a drop dead gorgeous Brazillian. The point of this is to prove that you can litterally have whatever you want in a partner, but you have to work for it, and be worthy of it. I had to change alot to be able to land a girl like that. It all stated with my outlook on women. [/quote]

Waittz…you sound like an old soul. I was moved by this…good words brother!

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

looking good means shit. [/quote]
what do you mean?
looking good helps. it won’t make up for a huge deficit in game but girls are shallow sometimes.[/quote]

I wonder how many people who say stuff like that actually ARE handsome.[/quote]
I get plenty of compliments from girls.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

looking good means shit. [/quote]
what do you mean?
looking good helps. it won’t make up for a huge deficit in game but girls are shallow sometimes.[/quote]

I wonder how many people who say stuff like that actually ARE handsome.[/quote]

Not many looking good gets you tons of pussy.

I have an acquaintance who is probably one of the best looking men on the planet. He makes brad pitt look like a scrub. Women just want fuck him, married, whatever, it doesn’t matter. He hasn’t had to work a day in his life to get laid. Must be nice.

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[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]CircaThursday wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

looking good means shit. [/quote]
what do you mean?
looking good helps. it won’t make up for a huge deficit in game but girls are shallow sometimes.[/quote]

I wonder how many people who say stuff like that actually ARE handsome.[/quote]
I get plenty of compliments from girls.[/quote]

Sorry, I meant people who trivialize good looks.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

In my opinion(see how that works people?) it has to do with personal preference desire to be around children. I would also assume that most men, like myself, who have never had a child, or a nephew/neice etc will not welcome the situation because we have no desire or comfort level to be around children. I can also say the same thing for cats and women who have them. Luckily for you there are billions of people in the world. Tons of options.

[/quote]

Yup tonz of options - for getting a piece of ass. And maybe its ok just to settle for that. I totally get that guys are uncomfy with kids, especially 6 year old girls. [/quote]

Pessimism has no place in someone’s mind if they are trying to find what you are looking for. You end up projecting it and thus push what you are looking for away. Kind of like how dogs can tell if you are nervous or scared of touching them.

Plent of men have children, have had children or want children. If you make the decision prior that you will never find one, you wont. Much like guys like Walkway claim in confidence that there are no good women out there, they are just making it a reality. No different than poor people saying ‘ill never be rich’. Of coarse not. Nobody who says that ever will. [/quote]

This is true. I stand corrected. Thank you for insight.[/quote]

no problem. I used to be like that in the past. Was very misogynistic and went on a tear that I am still to this day not proud of. I thought all women were sluts and the like. Finally one day I admitted to myself that I was really just lonely and missed being in love with someone who loved me back in truth and casual encounters made the feeling worse not better. I made an active decision to change my thoughts about women and such. Even got a tattoo to permantly remind me of who I am inside and what I want. Wrote down on paper what I wanted out of a partner and what I was willing to change about myself to attract that kind of person.

Met my now fiance 1 month on the day from that. She lived in a different country, was on her last day of vacation. We fell in love the second we met, found away to stay together even though we lived in two different continents for almost 8 months. We will be married soon. Never been happier. Everything worth having in life is earned not given, same comes for finding a partner.

Also remember that ANY change in your thoughts and behavior will bring a change in results. Start small, but start.

EDIT- my fiance when I met her was a virgin, she is well educated, comes from a successful and wealthy family, was and is a gym rat(my training and diet partner most days) and enjoys the same things I do(fashion, reading, personsal development) and as I proved already with some pics, she is a drop dead gorgeous Brazillian. The point of this is to prove that you can litterally have whatever you want in a partner, but you have to work for it, and be worthy of it. I had to change alot to be able to land a girl like that. It all stated with my outlook on women. [/quote]

sounds like she just wants citizenship…

id argue that you aren’t “worthy” of a such a woman… she maintained her decency and her innocence as you played around in slop.

i’d chalk it up to dumb luck, no doing of your own.

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

In my opinion(see how that works people?) it has to do with personal preference desire to be around children. I would also assume that most men, like myself, who have never had a child, or a nephew/neice etc will not welcome the situation because we have no desire or comfort level to be around children. I can also say the same thing for cats and women who have them. Luckily for you there are billions of people in the world. Tons of options.

[/quote]

Yup tonz of options - for getting a piece of ass. And maybe its ok just to settle for that. I totally get that guys are uncomfy with kids, especially 6 year old girls. [/quote]

Pessimism has no place in someone’s mind if they are trying to find what you are looking for. You end up projecting it and thus push what you are looking for away. Kind of like how dogs can tell if you are nervous or scared of touching them.

Plent of men have children, have had children or want children. If you make the decision prior that you will never find one, you wont. Much like guys like Walkway claim in confidence that there are no good women out there, they are just making it a reality. No different than poor people saying ‘ill never be rich’. Of coarse not. Nobody who says that ever will. [/quote]

This is true. I stand corrected. Thank you for insight.[/quote]

no problem. I used to be like that in the past. Was very misogynistic and went on a tear that I am still to this day not proud of. I thought all women were sluts and the like. Finally one day I admitted to myself that I was really just lonely and missed being in love with someone who loved me back in truth and casual encounters made the feeling worse not better. I made an active decision to change my thoughts about women and such. Even got a tattoo to permantly remind me of who I am inside and what I want. Wrote down on paper what I wanted out of a partner and what I was willing to change about myself to attract that kind of person.

Met my now fiance 1 month on the day from that. She lived in a different country, was on her last day of vacation. We fell in love the second we met, found away to stay together even though we lived in two different continents for almost 8 months. We will be married soon. Never been happier. Everything worth having in life is earned not given, same comes for finding a partner.

Also remember that ANY change in your thoughts and behavior will bring a change in results. Start small, but start.

EDIT- my fiance when I met her was a virgin, she is well educated, comes from a successful and wealthy family, was and is a gym rat(my training and diet partner most days) and enjoys the same things I do(fashion, reading, personsal development) and as I proved already with some pics, she is a drop dead gorgeous Brazillian. The point of this is to prove that you can litterally have whatever you want in a partner, but you have to work for it, and be worthy of it. I had to change alot to be able to land a girl like that. It all stated with my outlook on women. [/quote]

sounds like she just wants citizenship…

id argue that you aren’t “worthy” of a such a woman… she maintained her decency and her innocence as you played around in slop.

i’d chalk it up to dumb luck, no doing of your own.[/quote]

You realize that you are a 24 year old virgin drug using babbysitter with no real career or life accomplishments right? You think your shit attitude has anything to do with it?

Maybe you should actually take my advice and stop being such a miserable curmudgeon trying to shit on a very successful and happy person for reasons that are very obvious to everyone but you.

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[quote]Waittz wrote:

In my opinion(see how that works people?)

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“i feel”, “i think”, “in my opinion” … textbook weak prose. We know it’s your opinion. How? You wrote it. See how THAT works?