[quote]Kakarat wrote:
1 in 5 men being Real men is a generous ratio.[/quote]
It starts early. Becoming a real boy is the surest way.
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
Waittz, in some ways, Walkway is correct. If you were once a dick to women then you in fact are not giving an equal offering. She has maintained purity her whole life to give that gift to the person she loves. You can offer no such gift in exchange. It has been passed away numerous time. You have a dark past, one to which you’ve obviously cleaned up and changed, but dark nonetheless.
That being said, people can change, and what is most important is that going forward you do that which is needed, being honorable, trustworthy, true, and caring for your wife and family (when the time comes). Money, success, confidence don’t mean jack at that point, what matters is putting family first and making that priority.
The greatest issue with your situation, is people may read it and say, “see I can act like a hound now and then find myself a nice girl later, be fully ‘cleansed’ of my wild prior life and settle down into awesome.” That just plain isn’t fair to the women out there who are being the good girls. It takes a true change of heart/character to make someone absolvable of what they did, and I hope that is something that you’ve done.
Its not about the act that was important, it was and is about the state of mind that led to that act. Women as a tool to get off, being a man in front of your buddies, wanting to get laid. Objectification of women, whether you brought them pleasure or not, is not a fair or mature mindset. And neither is it for women to do to men. Bringing that along to a clean, true relationship is baggage and it needs dropped, removed, deleted, burned, and cleansed and then you (general you not specific) need to step into the shoes of being a man. That’s a lot to do, and if you can’t do it, then you (general not specific again) do not deserve the kind of girl that has brought purity to the relationship.[/quote]
I like this post, good stuff Q. Also, to add something I noticed is that yes Walk is being a huge dick about saying that your girl only wants citizenship. But see how Waitz used him being a virgin as a downfall. That is not fair to him. He might have deserved to be insulted but I feel as if Walk would find a good woman it is going to be harder with him being a virgin because I imagine about 90% of woman do not find that attractive or it would scare him away.
As I mentioned earlier, which is another topic in it self, how much of a potential gf/bf’s sexual past effects how you go forward with that individual?
I find that to be a very hard question to answer especially if you are waiting for the right person and you find them, but they have been with double digit partners…
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
Waittz, in some ways, Walkway is correct. If you were once a dick to women then you in fact are not giving an equal offering. She has maintained purity her whole life to give that gift to the person she loves. You can offer no such gift in exchange. It has been passed away numerous time. You have a dark past, one to which you’ve obviously cleaned up and changed, but dark nonetheless.
That being said, people can change, and what is most important is that going forward you do that which is needed, being honorable, trustworthy, true, and caring for your wife and family (when the time comes). Money, success, confidence don’t mean jack at that point, what matters is putting family first and making that priority.
The greatest issue with your situation, is people may read it and say, “see I can act like a hound now and then find myself a nice girl later, be fully ‘cleansed’ of my wild prior life and settle down into awesome.” That just plain isn’t fair to the women out there who are being the good girls. It takes a true change of heart/character to make someone absolvable of what they did, and I hope that is something that you’ve done.
Its not about the act that was important, it was and is about the state of mind that led to that act. Women as a tool to get off, being a man in front of your buddies, wanting to get laid. Objectification of women, whether you brought them pleasure or not, is not a fair or mature mindset. And neither is it for women to do to men. Bringing that along to a clean, true relationship is baggage and it needs dropped, removed, deleted, burned, and cleansed and then you (general you not specific) need to step into the shoes of being a man. That’s a lot to do, and if you can’t do it, then you (general not specific again) do not deserve the kind of girl that has brought purity to the relationship.[/quote]
I like this post, good stuff Q. Also, to add something I noticed is that yes Walk is being a huge dick about saying that your girl only wants citizenship. But see how Waitz used him being a virgin as a downfall. That is not fair to him. He might have deserved to be insulted but I feel as if Walk would find a good woman it is going to be harder with him being a virgin because I imagine about 90% of woman do not find that attractive or it would scare him away.
As I mentioned earlier, which is another topic in it self, how much of a potential gf/bf’s sexual past effects how you go forward with that individual?
I find that to be a very hard question to answer especially if you are waiting for the right person and you find them, but they have been with double digit partners…[/quote]
google “retroactive jealousy”
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
As I mentioned earlier, which is another topic in it self, how much of a potential gf/bf’s sexual past effects how you go forward with that individual?
I find that to be a very hard question to answer especially if you are waiting for the right person and you find them, but they have been with double digit partners…[/quote]
Well, if they’re the right person and you’ve found them, you really shouldn’t let their past influence the present or the future. Yes, their past made them who they are today, but that’s really all I would read into it.
It’s really not very productive to be judgmental and let your prejudices affect your dealings with people in general, and even more so in a relationship. You should focus on the here and now, and make the best of that.
I know this sounds kind of ridiculous to put it this way… but a girl who’s had double digit partners, and is still bad in bed… is probably not a quality girl. A quality girl would have payed attention and learned from her experiences. Which, you, now, get to benefit from.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
A quality girl would have payed attention and learned from her experiences. Which, you, now, get to benefit from.[/quote]
LMFUCKINGAO
you have “cuckhold” written all over you
I’ve learned to never EVER ask about a girls past. Unless she’s done porn videos, or has an std i dont want to know about anything. No matter what she says, there is no winning. Just let me be enjoy my blissful ignorance about her past.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
1 in 5 men being Real men is a generous ratio.[/quote]
It starts early. Becoming a real boy is the surest way.[/quote]
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[quote]stefan128 wrote:
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
Waittz, in some ways, Walkway is correct. If you were once a dick to women then you in fact are not giving an equal offering. She has maintained purity her whole life to give that gift to the person she loves. You can offer no such gift in exchange. It has been passed away numerous time. You have a dark past, one to which you’ve obviously cleaned up and changed, but dark nonetheless.
That being said, people can change, and what is most important is that going forward you do that which is needed, being honorable, trustworthy, true, and caring for your wife and family (when the time comes). Money, success, confidence don’t mean jack at that point, what matters is putting family first and making that priority.
The greatest issue with your situation, is people may read it and say, “see I can act like a hound now and then find myself a nice girl later, be fully ‘cleansed’ of my wild prior life and settle down into awesome.” That just plain isn’t fair to the women out there who are being the good girls. It takes a true change of heart/character to make someone absolvable of what they did, and I hope that is something that you’ve done.
Its not about the act that was important, it was and is about the state of mind that led to that act. Women as a tool to get off, being a man in front of your buddies, wanting to get laid. Objectification of women, whether you brought them pleasure or not, is not a fair or mature mindset. And neither is it for women to do to men. Bringing that along to a clean, true relationship is baggage and it needs dropped, removed, deleted, burned, and cleansed and then you (general you not specific) need to step into the shoes of being a man. That’s a lot to do, and if you can’t do it, then you (general not specific again) do not deserve the kind of girl that has brought purity to the relationship.[/quote]
I like this post, good stuff Q. Also, to add something I noticed is that yes Walk is being a huge dick about saying that your girl only wants citizenship. But see how Waitz used him being a virgin as a downfall. That is not fair to him. He might have deserved to be insulted but I feel as if Walk would find a good woman it is going to be harder with him being a virgin because I imagine about 90% of woman do not find that attractive or it would scare him away.
As I mentioned earlier, which is another topic in it self, how much of a potential gf/bf’s sexual past effects how you go forward with that individual?
I find that to be a very hard question to answer especially if you are waiting for the right person and you find them, but they have been with double digit partners…[/quote]
Walkway just says things to bother and insult people, my assumption is that he has very little to be happy about in his life and attacks people anonymously to make himself feel better.
Take the citizenship joke, the only information I gave was she was from another country, and he tries to find a way to cause hurt from words with no reasoning behind it. Now if I had explained that in truth, the 8 months apart were part of a process that took almost a year for me to convince her to leave her home, put her college(one of the best in their country) on hold and give up her current job and means to take over her mothers multi million dollar company to come here, start over and have no means of employment as a visa student for the past 2 years, well that citizenship joke sounds pretty silly doesn’t it?
Go read some more of his shit. It all has the same MO. Just wants to get a rise out of people to get a quick reprieve from the things in life he wants to hide from.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
Waittz, in some ways, Walkway is correct. If you were once a dick to women then you in fact are not giving an equal offering. She has maintained purity her whole life to give that gift to the person she loves. You can offer no such gift in exchange. It has been passed away numerous time. You have a dark past, one to which you’ve obviously cleaned up and changed, but dark nonetheless.
That being said, people can change, and what is most important is that going forward you do that which is needed, being honorable, trustworthy, true, and caring for your wife and family (when the time comes). Money, success, confidence don’t mean jack at that point, what matters is putting family first and making that priority.
The greatest issue with your situation, is people may read it and say, “see I can act like a hound now and then find myself a nice girl later, be fully ‘cleansed’ of my wild prior life and settle down into awesome.” That just plain isn’t fair to the women out there who are being the good girls. It takes a true change of heart/character to make someone absolvable of what they did, and I hope that is something that you’ve done.
Its not about the act that was important, it was and is about the state of mind that led to that act. Women as a tool to get off, being a man in front of your buddies, wanting to get laid. Objectification of women, whether you brought them pleasure or not, is not a fair or mature mindset. And neither is it for women to do to men. Bringing that along to a clean, true relationship is baggage and it needs dropped, removed, deleted, burned, and cleansed and then you (general you not specific) need to step into the shoes of being a man. That’s a lot to do, and if you can’t do it, then you (general not specific again) do not deserve the kind of girl that has brought purity to the relationship.[/quote]
I like this post, good stuff Q. Also, to add something I noticed is that yes Walk is being a huge dick about saying that your girl only wants citizenship. But see how Waitz used him being a virgin as a downfall. That is not fair to him. He might have deserved to be insulted but I feel as if Walk would find a good woman it is going to be harder with him being a virgin because I imagine about 90% of woman do not find that attractive or it would scare him away.
As I mentioned earlier, which is another topic in it self, how much of a potential gf/bf’s sexual past effects how you go forward with that individual?
I find that to be a very hard question to answer especially if you are waiting for the right person and you find them, but they have been with double digit partners…[/quote]
Walkway just says things to bother and insult people, my assumption is that he has very little to be happy about in his life and attacks people anonymously to make himself feel better.
Take the citizenship joke, the only information I gave was she was from another country, and he tries to find a way to cause hurt from words with no reasoning behind it. Now if I had explained that in truth, the 8 months apart were part of a process that took almost a year for me to convince her to leave her home, put her college(one of the best in their country) on hold and give up her current job and means to take over her mothers multi million dollar company to come here, start over and have no means of employment as a visa student for the past 2 years, well that citizenship joke sounds pretty silly doesn’t it?
Go read some more of his shit. It all has the same MO. Just wants to get a rise out of people to get a quick reprieve from the things in life he wants to hide from.
[/quote]
the irony of your post apparently eluded you… you all claim up and down that I am a “misogynist”… a “woman hater”…etc… all because ive said that I haven’t found a woman that was worth a second thought.
however YOU waittz… you did a stint of objectifying women and using them in a sociopathic way to pleasure your hedonistic desires… something I have NEVER done, and never would do. my conscience just couldn’t bear it.
so tell me… who is the real misogynist? I feel like you people don’t understand the meaning of the words you are using.
and yes, I did say that thing to get a rise out of you… however, you so pompously said that you were “worthy” of such a woman who… through your lifestyle choices, made yourself unworthy of. you see… there again is the truth that im not a misogynist, I hold men and women to the same standards.
In before 10 Pages.
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
1 in 5 men being Real men is a generous ratio.[/quote]
It starts early. Becoming a real boy is the surest way.[/quote]
.[/quote]
Pinocchio is pure unadulterated alpha.
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
Are guys addicted to the rollercoaster ride these type of women provide? Does the passion of the extreme highs make you feel on top of the world and the extreme lows make you want to fight to stay together and get the highs back, leaving you blind to the character flaws that will never change? I see this all the time, good guys I might like to date can’t seem to let go of these crazy women who don’t have their lives together and aren’t all that great looking IMO.
Then I look back at me and wonder WTF i’m doing so wrong.[/quote]
Well…
Crazy women raise hell in the sack?
I wish there was a more sophisticated reason and emotionally there kind of is the first time around but Beth, they fuck like Demons.
I kid you not. [/quote]
C’mon, O; you know it aint that simple.
There’s also an operant conditioning aspect to crazy women that is similar to gambling.
You’re never quite sure what’s going to happen when you pull that handle on the slot machine, and if the “jackpot” reinforcement that you get is sporadic and unpredictable, you start to crave it and pursue it. It’s all the more wonderful because it’s offset by you losing, and when you “win” it’s a great dopamine dump.
Before you know it, you’re hooked.[/quote]
Yes, but that does not work unless there is something to “win”.
Something big and shiny.
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
looking good means shit. [/quote]
what do you mean?
looking good helps. it won’t make up for a huge deficit in game but girls are shallow sometimes.[/quote]
And again:
The shit tests you get when you look good are subtle.
Maybe its just me, but I like the gut wrenching, outrageaous, coming at you like a tidal wave kind you get when she cant believe you are hitting on her.
Those are actually easier to deal with.
Plus, really good looking women care for your looks the least.
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
looking good means shit. [/quote]
what do you mean?
looking good helps. it won’t make up for a huge deficit in game but girls are shallow sometimes.[/quote]
According to CaptainOblivious, men are way more shallow. Maybe it’s a human thing.[/quote]
Yes, but less ruled by their socio sexual programming, through no virtue of their own.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
As I mentioned earlier, which is another topic in it self, how much of a potential gf/bf’s sexual past effects how you go forward with that individual?
I find that to be a very hard question to answer especially if you are waiting for the right person and you find them, but they have been with double digit partners…[/quote]
Well, if they’re the right person and you’ve found them, you really shouldn’t let their past influence the present or the future. Yes, their past made them who they are today, but that’s really all I would read into it.
It’s really not very productive to be judgmental and let your prejudices affect your dealings with people in general, and even more so in a relationship. You should focus on the here and now, and make the best of that.
I know this sounds kind of ridiculous to put it this way… but a girl who’s had double digit partners, and is still bad in bed… is probably not a quality girl. A quality girl would have payed attention and learned from her experiences. Which, you, now, get to benefit from.[/quote]
Past is prologue.
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
1 in 5 men being Real men is a generous ratio.[/quote]
It starts early. Becoming a real boy is the surest way.[/quote]
.[/quote]
Pinocchio is pure unadulterated alpha.[/quote]
I’ve been trying to come up with some kind of a witty Pinocchio reference since I first saw spar’s post. Too slow I guess. Maybe something to do with how real men do it with no strings attached. I dunno…
BACK TO THE POINT, I think many women prefer to be better looking than their man. Good looking is a low priority for me. In decent shape (or shaped well) is far more important than handsome. Even being in good shape is several down on the list, though fitness is an important value of mine for myself (however not obese or way out of shape).
Smart, confident, kind, engaged and curious, active, somewhat spontaneous but also stable…the list goes on for some time before looks come up.
[quote]batman730 wrote:
[quote]Big Kahuna wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Kakarat wrote:
1 in 5 men being Real men is a generous ratio.[/quote]
It starts early. Becoming a real boy is the surest way.[/quote]
.[/quote]
Pinocchio is pure unadulterated alpha.[/quote]
I’ve been trying to come up with some kind of a witty Pinocchio reference since I first saw spar’s post. Too slow I guess. Maybe something to do with how real men do it with no strings attached. I dunno… [/quote]
Ever since I put that up I’ve been wallowing in regret at not spending longer on a funny and not obvious reference, I ruined it for both of us.
Did I mention the OP should just ask her out?
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
A quality girl would have payed attention and learned from her experiences. Which, you, now, get to benefit from.[/quote]
LMFUCKINGAO
you have “cuckhold” written all over you[/quote]
*cuckold