[quote]trav123456 wrote:
[quote]Alex Good wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]Brother Chris wrote:
[quote]debraD wrote:
I think earlier in the thread you spoke against protecting people’s self-esteems. Isn’t protecting women from real competition doing just that? Women/girls do not need protection. What they need is to be challenged and pushed harder. However with rampant sexism still around, the scenario you describe will still occur, but it will only persist as we keep protecting women/girls.[/quote]
I am assuming (questioning, not actually saying this is your position) you personally do not believe as a woman/girl that you do not need protection. And, that you’re not saying that all women/girls do not need protection?[/quote]
No I am saying that I personally do not need protection and that women/girls do not need protection. I was speaking in terms of protection from competition in my post but I think it applies outside of competition also. At least in parts of the world where we are not in the middle of a war.
Guys who have been raised that their role is to protect women need me to need protection however. But the reality is I don’t.
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Either way, even though I do think women can handle themselves most of the time (I have a very hands off approach to dealing with female problems), some kind of male protection may be called for from time to time. Plus, that is what family is for.[/quote]
(we’re straying from the topic) but I’ve managed my whole life without male protection. What I have had to protect myself from is males who have declared themselves my protector.
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I doubt that is the issue here, the issue is that she is female. And, it is not only an issue because she is a female but because we are men. We were raised different than women. [/quote] You can only speak about how you were raised. I know many men from different backgrounds and each were raised differently. A close friend of mine was raised by a single lesbian and no father present. You can`t speak to how he was raised.
But that said I was raised to bring love and babies to the world. Mom failed 
Anyone is in the position to challenge how they were raised. But that takes balls that most don`t have.
Again, straying from the topic.
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As well, this kid had religious belief so not only was he respecting the young lady, but he was also protecting himself. [/quote]
I don’t believe the lady and her interests were factored at all in this. I’m not saying she should have been. But her beliefs were obviously that she should compete with him so he was clearly not respecting hers. He’s not responsible for any beliefs but his own. Guys in this position are in a shitty spot no doubt. So are the girls. There is no fair way any way you cut it. I don’t have any judgment for the guy here. It’s the guys here saying they were doing her a favour or honouring her or such shit I would question.[/quote]
Okay, a rabid dog attacks you and your (nonexistant) boyfriend (not saying you’re ugly, just a feminist). Who do you expect to fight it? Can you grab it by the neck, throw it to the ground and choke the life out of it?
What about fishing? Are you strong enough to haul a net in? Reel in a shark?
And then there’s hunting. Sure you could shoot the thing, but how are you getting it home? Helicopter?
I’m sorry, but men are simply more able to do certain things.[/quote]
But what if a rabid dog-shark attacked her while she was trying to reel in a helicopter? She’d be screwed then I tell ya.[/quote]
Lol, I believe there is some circumstances that men are more capable of protecting their family then women, but this guy is just over the top.
