Thanks for clearing that up…
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I intended to use 6 days.
Lessee:
Ongoing injection amount: 500 mg
Weekly usage: 1000 mg
Amount used per half-life: 1000 mg x (6/7) = 857 mg
Sum of ongoing injection amount and amount injected per half-life: 1357 mg
I rounded up to 1400 mg on the assumption the product was 200 mg/mL and noting that most psychologically prefer round numbers of mL.
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its 250/ml but I don’t think I’ll have trouble getting the right amount in. Thanks Bill.
Sure thing!
The calculations cannot be exact because half-life figures are nothing like exact. If it were me and if I were using 3 mL syringes (which I wouldn’t, but if I were) I would round up to 1500 mg in this case, as that would be exactly 6 mL. If sticking oneself, might as well have the syringe full I always figure, assuming the dose is still about right that way.
(An exception is if deliberately wishing to limit injection volume, e.g. to 2 mL per injection.)
Way,
I realize I was wrong about being able to shoot this amount (now 1400mg) in one site. That would be 5.6 ml at 250mg/ml. I would split that into at least 2 glutes or ventro glutes. You could even do 2ml, 2ml, 1.6ml in 3 sites.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Way,
I realize I was wrong about being able to shoot this amount (now 1400mg) in one site. That would be 5.6 ml at 250mg/ml. I would split that into at least 2 glutes or ventro glutes. You could even do 2ml, 2ml, 1.6ml in 3 sites.[/quote]
haha just thinking about that much AAS at once is kind of scary. Honestly I’ve never used glutes or ventro glutes. I’m pretty much addicted to using my delts and calves( don’t ask me why) lol. I can’t reach my ass and it always hurts like shit to inject my quad.
So I think I will go with your suggestion and use that dosing per syringe. Come to think of it, I have trouble growing my calves, you think 6 cc’s of oil would look sexy in my calves? lol
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
So I think I will go with your suggestion and use that dosing per syringe. Come to think of it, I have trouble growing my calves, you think 6 cc’s of oil would look sexy in my calves? lol[/quote]
It would, if you consider abcesses or not being able to walk for a week sexy.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
So I think I will go with your suggestion and use that dosing per syringe. Come to think of it, I have trouble growing my calves, you think 6 cc’s of oil would look sexy in my calves? lol
It would, if you consider abcesses or not being able to walk for a week sexy.[/quote]
hahaha. Man that reminds me, remember a few weeks ago when I posted that I had left over test E that I never used b/c it was giving me allergic reactions? I remember I injected 2 cc’s of that crap into my right calve, ended up getting an allergic reaction and fuck that hurt! I literally had to walk on my tippy-toes and put almost zero weight on that leg for like 5 days until I got some Keflax and let it do it’s thing. That sucked.
I’ve really had some fucked up early experiences with cheap gear, remember the hospital thing? Whew that was a doozy. Glad I have everything under control now. Guess I paid my dues ><
Fucking up because you don’t rotate injection site is not ‘paying dues’, it’s called being careless.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Fucking up because you don’t rotate injection site is not ‘paying dues’, it’s called being careless. [/quote]
That has absolutely nothing to do with it. Using delts 1 week, and calves the next, IS rotating sites. You see to be trying to instigate a ton of shit lately bonez, I have no idea where this argument even came from.
I injected into my calve on the first injection, and I had an allergic reaction. What the fuck does that have to do with rotating injection sites? Do tell.
To be honest, outside of extremely small fluid volumes such as during the stasis/taper, I think injecting into calves in the first place is just asking for trouble. Far too many veins and nerves in too small of a space. Same goes for biceps.
I believe Brook had a really funny analogy a while back about using such areas as injection sites. Something about the parts of a chicken you wouldn’t want to eat…
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
Fucking up because you don’t rotate injection site is not ‘paying dues’, it’s called being careless.
That has absolutely nothing to do with it. Using delts 1 week, and calves the next, IS rotating sites. You see to be trying to instigate a ton of shit lately bonez, I have no idea where this argument even came from.
I injected into my calve on the first injection, and I had an allergic reaction. What the fuck does that have to do with rotating injection sites? Do tell.[/quote]
Im not instigating anything. You used Keflex, an antibiotic, for an allergic reaction?
I only brought it up because you are talking about using delts and calves as a site rotation on a publc board. At least add a disclaimer for those who may not understand that it is a suboptimal approach. This is not an argument, I am not judging you, it was only my opinion. I’ll edit my post if it upsets you so much.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
To be honest, outside of extremely small fluid volumes such as during the stasis/taper, I think injecting into calves in the first place is just asking for trouble. Far too many veins and nerves in too small of a space. Same goes for biceps.[/quote]
Personally, I used to use the biceps predominantly and always had good success with it. It was actually an extremely smart and knowledgeable doctor who preferred that method for his own use who had steered me in that direction. While I don’t believe there was site specific growth, the vegetable oil does provide, I think, a completely safe and natural-appearing volumizing effect that is worth a little bit of size, too.
I’ve since gone to quads on account of preferring to be able to use both hands for the injections.
But the biceps can work absolutely fine.
Never did delts personally; had some painful experiences the couple of times I tried calves so did not stick with that.
Interestingly, I use exclusively calves and biceps for IGF-1 injections because I am looking for site specific growth in exactly those areas. And it has been my experience injecting those areas with the most miniscule amounts of little more than water that has pretty well convinced me I will never use them for injecting anything more than a few fractions of a cc.
I’ve hit far too many nerves, had too many bloody aspirations, and dealt with post injection pain too many times afterward compared to any other site to ever make the leap to regular sized injections of AAS. I will say I tend to have more of these issues (which mainly involve hitting nerves) when I inject calves.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Im not instigating anything. You used Keflex, an antibiotic, for an allergic reaction?
I only brought it up because you are talking about using delts and calves as a site rotation on a publc board. At least add a disclaimer for those who may not understand that it is a suboptimal approach. This is not an argument, I am not judging you, it was only my opinion. I’ll edit my post if it upsets you so much. [/quote]
Yes, I went to the doctor, he said I was having an allergic reaction of some sort, I used Keflex, it went away.
How is my approach suboptimal? All injection sites are created equal, all that matters is the comfort for the user. People stick to just glutes and ventro glute all the time, whats the difference?
I like to inject my calves and my delts, it’s a comfort thing, and it works just fine.
Way,
I just don’t know if those sites can comfortably take 2ml of oil at one time. Maybe if you splt it up into four at your preferred sites. That would be 1.4ml each. Definitely go with what works for you.
I have found that pinning into the glute and then reaching around my back with one hand to steady the barrel while operating the plunger with thh other makes it quite manageable.
The glutes and ventro glutes are reputed to be able to handle larger volumes of oil. Up to 3 ml per if I remember correctly. While the smaller ones are recommended for 1 ml max.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Way,
I just don’t know if those sites can comfortably take 2ml of oil at one time. Maybe if you splt it up into four at your preferred sites. That would be 1.4ml each. Definitely go with what works for you.
I have found that pinning into the glute and then reaching around my back with one hand to steady the barrel while operating the plunger with thh other makes it quite manageable.
The glutes and ventro glutes are reputed to be able to handle larger volumes of oil. Up to 3 ml per if I remember correctly. While the smaller ones are recommended for 1 ml max.[/quote]
I’ve actually put up to 3 ML’s into my calves and delts at one time and experienced no problems, but thanks for the advice. I might throw in the quad since I will be doing so much at once, it’s just very uncomfortable. So much more shit for the needle to get through.
I’m curious about the glute injection, are you able to aspirate and actually see if there is blood or air coming in? That’s my main concern.
Using the technique I outlined - yes - I am able to aspirate and check the contents of the syringe. I do this in front of my mirrored closet so I can see exactly what I am doing in the mirror.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Using the technique I outlined - yes - I am able to aspirate and check the contents of the syringe. I do this in front of my mirrored closet so I can see exactly what I am doing in the mirror.[/quote]
Hm interesting, I may have to try this. Would it be a bad idea with 1" pins though? Thats all I have.
1" pin should be fine. You are fairly lean right?
3mLs in your calves! Unless you got some HOOOOOGE ass calves, thats an abscess waiting to happen bud.