I will be running a series of 2-on/2-6 off cycles, this will be my first. I feel if I square this one away properly I can handle setting up subsequent cycles myself. Goal of the cycle will be lean mass gain with a strong focus on minimizing fat gain. Previous cycle experience is Test E @ 500mg/week for 10 weeks. Very excited to give Trenbolone a try for the first time.
I’m thinking 60mg/day for Tren because it seems reasonable for a beginner on such a short cycle. Given the acetate ester, I am willing to “push” it a little, though, so if someone recommends going a little bit higher I would consider it. Thoughts?
Advice given by Bill and others is to use an aromatizable compound and I chose to use Test P. The decision to run Testosterone at a much lower ratio to Tren was made after reading through this thread: Forums - T Nation - The World's Trusted Community for Elite Fitness
AI: You can see I am using a low dose of Letro as a precautionary measure. I figured this might be a decent dose to start at and “feel” things out. Thoughts? The initial dose is frontloaded based in Bill’s recommendation in this thread: Forums - T Nation - The World's Trusted Community for Elite Fitness
TP and TA Dosing: I used “Roid Calculator” to figure out the blood plasma levels corresponding with my dosing schedule. Calculations were made using a 2 day half-life for TP and a 1 day half-life for TA. Assuming I interpreted Bill’s advice correctly in the thread I just linked to, blood plasma levels for the TP and TA are within “acceptable” range to begin recovery on day 15. All but the Day 1 injections will be first thing in the morning.
I was thinking about running the D-bol the whole time at 10mg, and then tapering up as blood plasma levels of Testosterone drop down.
Also, if I were to run GHRP-6, would it be most beneficial to use during the “on” weeks or during the “off” weeks? I’m leaning towards the “off” weeks to help maintain/continue gains.
If you have REAL pharmaceutically prepped nolva that is fine. But I am guessing you have research chem stuff, which are probably underdosed. I would go 40mg with that stuff
[quote]blakmuscle220 wrote:
Im a newbie as well, how effective is a two week cycle? [/quote]
One 2 week cycle is probably not going to deliver the results most people using steroids seek. A series of 2 week cycles properly managed can be effective however. Do a search on the topic there are a few good threads.
I would run the Dianabol through all 14 days of each 2 week cycle, and I would use 50 mg/day, or at least the 30 mg/day that BBB (I believe) recommended.
[quote]Detroitlionsbaby wrote:
If you have REAL pharmaceutically prepped nolva that is fine. But I am guessing you have research chem stuff, which are probably underdosed. I would go 40mg with that stuff[/quote]
I got powder from a reliable source and dissolved it in propylene glycol. I’m assuming no loss in bioavailability versus capping when measuring out dosages. Hopefully I’m right…
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
I would run the Dianabol through all 14 days of each 2 week cycle, and I would use 50 mg/day, or at least the 30 mg/day that BBB (I believe) recommended.[/quote]
Thanks for stopping by. Otherwise, does my plan seem squared away? I am particularly interested if I calculated the blood plasma levels with sufficient accuracy and am within range to begin recovery on Day 15.
[quote]blakmuscle220 wrote:
Im a newbie as well, how effective is a two week cycle? [/quote]
One 2 week cycle is probably not going to deliver the results most people using steroids seek. A series of 2 week cycles properly managed can be effective however. Do a search on the topic there are a few good threads. [/quote]
I dont mean to hijack this thread. I cant figure out how to start my own thread… I’m looking for moderate results,as I get tested and want to do 1 maybe 2 short cycles,soi can test negitive. What is best for that? Test… snd what else. I know what i would like to do when I have more time, Im just looking for moderate gains right now.
[quote]blakmuscle220 wrote:
I dont mean to hijack this thread. I cant figure out how to start my own thread…[/quote]
Not to sound like a jerk, but all you do is go back and hit the “Post” button at the top right. It looks like this: Forums - T Nation - The World's Trusted Community for Elite Fitness . You probably should post your own topic to get some advice from people more knowledgeable, but what I think they’ll likely recommend is to research the half-lives of different compounds available to you. Acetate and Propionate esters are very short and will be out of your system fairly quick. Same with orals.
Thanks, Bill & Detroitlionsbaby, I am looking to hopefully start next week.
Bill - I’ve done some searching but haven’t been able to find anything. Do you think dissolving my powders in a 100% propylene glycol solution is going to affect the bioavailability? I’m hoping it wouldn’t significantly reduce the amount of the compound absorbed. Thoughts?
