Woman Beaters=Cowards

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[quote]LiftingOne25 wrote:

You do make a good point, there are cases of men being abused by women as well, but its well below 2-5%. That’s the problem, if this was a question, irregardless of gender doing the hitting, it would be considered an assault in most cases.

That’s how twisted the system is, and in fact, the SYSTEM does not favor the woman over the man by any means. Women try to leave more then once from their perpetrators, easier said then done. We are talking about life and death,… survival, the worst case scenario. Defending oneself in an isolated incident of assault is much different then systematic abuse. [/quote]

I’m sorry, did you really just quote a stat regarding PUBLIC REPORTS of domestic violence as if men are not less likely to file a public report of violence BECAUSE of the very system we are discussing?

In fact, I doubt it would be outwardly frank to assume that unless a man has damn near lost an appendage, he will probably avoid reporting that his GIRL beat his ass.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
slapchop wrote:
Makavali wrote:
But then again, the reason I’ve never been arrested for beating up women is because I tend to hang out with the ones that aren’t bat shit crazy.

exactly

Then neither of you must get out much.

Oh, wait…aren’t you Canadian?

Let me know the next time you go out with a woman from The Bronx, or Compton…or 3rd Ward Houston.[/quote]

And pray tell, why am I going out with one of these women?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
LiftingOne25 wrote:

You do make a good point, there are cases of men being abused by women as well, but its well below 2-5%. That’s the problem, if this was a question, irregardless of gender doing the hitting, it would be considered an assault in most cases.

That’s how twisted the system is, and in fact, the SYSTEM does not favor the woman over the man by any means. Women try to leave more then once from their perpetrators, easier said then done. We are talking about life and death,… survival, the worst case scenario. Defending oneself in an isolated incident of assault is much different then systematic abuse.

I’m sorry, did you really just quote a stat regarding PUBLIC REPORTS of domestic violence as if men are not less likely to file a public report of violence BECAUSE of the very system we are discussing?

In fact, I doubt it would be outwardly frank to assume that unless a man has damn near lost an appendage, he will probably avoid reporting that his GIRL beat his ass.[/quote]

LOL…I KNEW you were going to do that! I was going to talk about that too, but who wants to write a whole soliloquy on here. But the numbers are there. Take it, leave it.

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[quote]AdamC wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
(she might deserve - she might not)

Outside of holding a 9mm to a mans skull with the intention of ending his life, a woman never, ever deserves to be beaten.

what about knives? baseball bat? what if there’s more than one? what if they are well trained fighters?

it really depends on the situation. you have a right to defend yourself. i dont look for trouble, and if i found myself in a situation where some girl was attacking me, not because i i threatened her first, i’d feel perfectly comfortable using reasonable force.

ive seen women go crazy on guys, and do some damage because he wouldnt put up a fight. im not taking a trip to the hospital because of some false sense of chivalry.

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Look, my point is, if some crazy bitch is looking to kill you, do what you need to in order to survive. The method she is using is irrelevant.

But if the bitch is just fucking with you and pushing you to do it, restrain her and never talk to her again.

105lbs girl from the suburbs isn’t gonna kill you with a full fist punch. 220lb chick from the rough neighborhoods with a frying pan, is probably looking to kill you.

The situation is dependent on the parties involved, and I for one will use every possible method there is at my disposal before I hit a woman.

And yes the laws fucking suck in this instance for the men, but sometimes these laws actually do save women’s lives. I don’t know how to fix the laws, I don’t even know where to start.

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Interesting this came up, in Australia there is a push for women to be allowed into the infantry provided they pass the same physical tests as men. Some arguments against this movement say that the presence of women will distract the men, since the men will be extra protective of the women.

Others say men will less likely target women and will have difficulty striking the woman if the need arised. The majority of women say this is not their problem - itâ??s the menâ??s problem. These women and many men are pushing for a society in which gender is not a factor, only ability is.

If that is the way they want it, you gentlemen need to get over yourselves. Women don’t need special treatment. Some women are strong, some are not. Same with men. Would you hit a smaller man? A faggot? A pussy (male of course)?

That said, I don’t think there is really many reasons to hit anybody. Most of the fights and beatings these days (and probably all days) are fuelled by ego. Most of them aren’t necessary.

On the other hand, if a completely drunk person male or female is causing trouble in the club I’m bouncing for, I need to get them out. If they refuse, I will use necessary force. If they get nasty, (attacking me) I will either knock them out or throw them down the stairs.

I’m past caring about people thinking I’m brave, a coward, tough guy, wannabe badass - I just don’t care.
Because there is nothing you can do about it.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

And yes the laws fucking suck in this instance for the men, but sometimes these laws actually do save women’s lives.[/quote]

Haha, what?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
AdamC wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
(she might deserve - she might not)

Outside of holding a 9mm to a mans skull with the intention of ending his life, a woman never, ever deserves to be beaten.

what about knives? baseball bat? what if there’s more than one? what if they are well trained fighters?

it really depends on the situation. you have a right to defend yourself. i dont look for trouble, and if i found myself in a situation where some girl was attacking me, not because i i threatened her first, i’d feel perfectly comfortable using reasonable force.

ive seen women go crazy on guys, and do some damage because he wouldnt put up a fight. im not taking a trip to the hospital because of some false sense of chivalry.

Look, my point is, if some crazy bitch is looking to kill you, do what you need to in order to survive. The method she is using is irrelevant.

But if the bitch is just fucking with you and pushing you to do it, restrain her and never talk to her again.

105lbs girl from the suburbs isn’t gonna kill you with a full fist punch. 220lb chick from the rough neighborhoods with a frying pan, is probably looking to kill you.

The situation is dependent on the parties involved, and I for one will use every possible method there is at my disposal before I hit a woman.

And yes the laws fucking suck in this instance for the men, but sometimes these laws actually do save women’s lives. I don’t know how to fix the laws, I don’t even know where to start.[/quote]

If you want to fix the law, start by applying them. YES, even if the defendant has a vagina.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
(she might deserve - she might not)

Outside of holding a 9mm to a mans skull with the intention of ending his life, a woman never, ever deserves to be beaten.

I don’t care if some chick hauls off and close fists punches you square in the face. You act like a fucking man and handle shit. Not like a boy child and hit her back. Two wrongs to not make a fucking right for Christ sake.

Chivalry is not dead because of women, but because of spineless coward boys that never grew up.

Have some god damn respect for yourself.

But I do agree that you take risks interfering with something in public, but I would rather that dude beat on me than some girl regardless what she did or said.
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For fuck’s sake, thank god SOMEONE said it. I don’t think I could’ve said it better.

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
countingbeans wrote:

And yes the laws fucking suck in this instance for the men, but sometimes these laws actually do save women’s lives.

Haha, what?
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Haven’t been around much abuse I take it?

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[quote]Annihilator wrote:

If you want to fix the law, start by applying them. YES, even if the defendant has a vagina.
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I don’t personally have an issue with that at all.

And there was an instance of this happening at a Patriots game recently. From what I understand chick went nuts and started hitting her boyfriend. She was the one cuffed and arrested. But that is in public.

When the issue is he said/she said is when it gets fucked up. How do you know who is full of shit?

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Annihilator wrote:

If you want to fix the law, start by applying them. YES, even if the defendant has a vagina.

I don’t personally have an issue with that at all.

And there was an instance of this happening at a Patriots game recently. From what I understand chick went nuts and started hitting her boyfriend. She was the one cuffed and arrested. But that is in public.

When the issue is he said/she said is when it gets fucked up. How do you know who is full of shit?

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That’s where they’ll assume that it’s the man, because women are innocent and men always protrayed as evil individuals. This fact becomes extremely obvious when we examine all those false rape allegations that has been made public recently.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Westclock wrote:
Why would you ever want to hit your girl ?

She cant hurt you, she isnt TRYING to hurt you either.

The “defending yourself” is a moot point, just restrain her if she does anything crazy like pulling a knife or something…

Men should never need to assert their dominance physically, it should NEVER be questioned.
Only weaker/small guys hit girls, because they have to actually prove to them that they are stronger.

If your a big guy, its never questioned, you never have to prove it, its assumed.

Physical dominance doesn’t make you “right” in an argument, so why bother to assert it ?

It should never be questioned, if it is, then its YOUR fault for not being large enough, and it is completely irrelevant in an argument.

The girl should always know your physically superior, but she also knows that doesn’t make you any smarter or more correct…so its not like it helps or hurts that situation…

Please. Some of you sound as if you have NEVER met or been out with a crazy woman.

Tip: There are women out there who WILL try to hit you and/or push every single possible button to get a response physically.

There are women who will pull a knife on you for no reason because you disagreed with them.

That is reality and pretending like women are all weak and defenseless in a society that (as we just discussed about crying RAPE when it didn’t happen at all) goes out of its way to protect the woman whether right or wrong in nearly all relationship situations is a little naive.

Obviously no one in their right mind should be FOR beating up women for no damn reason.

However, those of you acting like women can’t hurt a guy or that no matter what a woman does no man should retaliate physically must either be puppets of that same previously discussed corrupt social system…or you have never met a crazy woman before.

If we live in a just society, it should not be right for ANYONE to hit ANYONE ELSE. None the less, a woman could hit you across the head tonight with a frying pan and she might just get a standing ovation from other women if made public even if she did it for no reason.

If you were to have defended yourself by smacking the pan out of her hand which leaves a mark on her wrist, chances are, you will end up in jail that night.

There is clearly nothing wrong here, right?[/quote]

I have dated quite a few crazies, but none that were violent to the extent that you describe…perhaps you simply have a greater array of life experiences in that area.

One girl used to punch me in the face and chest quite often.
I didn’t really care. She just wanted to hit me because she was angry, she was quite secure in the fact that she wasn’t going to actually hurt me.

She never tried to hit me with anything metal or heavy, it was always her fist or elbow, she never tried to come at me with a weapon or kick me in the groin or anything that might actually cause damage.

Alot of women are very angry little buggers and are physically abusive, but in my experience they don’t really WANT to take it “too far”. Somewhere in the back of their mind they feel free to do it because they KNOW it isn’t going to actually do much of anything but sting.

Im not saying its right, but I personally don’t care, and they figure out pretty quickly I’m not going to do much of anything to stop them or retaliate.

Im not saying a woman is INCAPABLE of hurting me, sure they are, just I PERSONALLY have not dated one that LEGITIMATELY tried.

I dont have a problem restraining a girl as long as its pretty gently, grabbing her wrists, or wrapping my arms around and over her’s like a bear hug to hold her still.

I dont see that as violence, thats just like calming her down if shes getting out of hand. Its not threatening actual pain or damage, its simply a very “assertive hug”.

Perhaps its different elsewhere in the US, but I live in the deep south, this is Texas, in most areas…if you were to hit a girl in public, or even grab her wrists aggressively, most of the guys in the immediate area would come to her aid more or less immediately.

Its just a cultural thing, Your taught from birth that it is completely unacceptable under almost all situations.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
(she might deserve - she might not)

Outside of holding a 9mm to a mans skull with the intention of ending his life, a woman never, ever deserves to be beaten.

I don’t care if some chick hauls off and close fists punches you square in the face. You act like a fucking man and handle shit. Not like a boy child and hit her back. Two wrongs to not make a fucking right for Christ sake.

Chivalry is not dead because of women, but because of spineless coward boys that never grew up.

Have some god damn respect for yourself.

But I do agree that you take risks interfering with something in public, but I would rather that dude beat on me than some girl regardless what she did or said.
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What?! Are you trying to say a man has no right to defend himself? “Two wrongs don’t make a right?” …So by that logic, if a MAN hit you in the face you would also not fight back.

Take it like a man? Who’se to say she will stop at one punch? What if she kicked you in the balls? I agree wife beaters are cowards, but you should not assume a man has no right to protect himself if HE IS ATTACKED. A slap is one thing, after a punch it’s on!

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[quote]Annihilator wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Annihilator wrote:

If you want to fix the law, start by applying them. YES, even if the defendant has a vagina.

I don’t personally have an issue with that at all.

And there was an instance of this happening at a Patriots game recently. From what I understand chick went nuts and started hitting her boyfriend. She was the one cuffed and arrested. But that is in public.

When the issue is he said/she said is when it gets fucked up. How do you know who is full of shit?

That’s where they’ll assume that it’s the man, because women are innocent and men always protrayed as evil individuals. This fact becomes extremely obvious when we examine all those false rape allegations that has been made public recently.[/quote]

Yeah it is a shit situation in general…

Part of the problem comes from decades of women suffering from emotional abuse and not coming forward. Which is partially responsible for the general view that it is always the man’s fault.

I don’t know statistics, but I know that shit happens a lot.

It should be mentioned I know a few husbands that have been emotionally tortured by their wives, and they don’t come forward, they just drink more beer.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
(she might deserve - she might not)

Outside of holding a 9mm to a mans skull with the intention of ending his life, a woman never, ever deserves to be beaten.

I don’t care if some chick hauls off and close fists punches you square in the face. You act like a fucking man and handle shit. Not like a boy child and hit her back. Two wrongs to not make a fucking right for Christ sake.

Chivalry is not dead because of women, but because of spineless coward boys that never grew up.

Have some god damn respect for yourself.

But I do agree that you take risks interfering with something in public, but I would rather that dude beat on me than some girl regardless what she did or said.
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x1000 I couldn’t agree more. That’s half the problem with “men” these days.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
slapchop wrote:
Makavali wrote:
But then again, the reason I’ve never been arrested for beating up women is because I tend to hang out with the ones that aren’t bat shit crazy.

exactly

Then neither of you must get out much.

Oh, wait…aren’t you Canadian?

Let me know the next time you go out with a woman from The Bronx, or Compton…or 3rd Ward Houston.[/quote]

darn you nailed it right on the head i have been stuck in my igloo for the last 10 years unable to get out due to the snow storms that we have up here and the lack of sunlight keeps all the women from getting bitchy and i lost my snow shoes so i guess i won’t be able to “get out more”

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[quote]slapchop wrote:
Professor X wrote:
slapchop wrote:
Makavali wrote:
But then again, the reason I’ve never been arrested for beating up women is because I tend to hang out with the ones that aren’t bat shit crazy.

exactly

Then neither of you must get out much.

Oh, wait…aren’t you Canadian?

Let me know the next time you go out with a woman from The Bronx, or Compton…or 3rd Ward Houston.

darn you nailed it right on the head i have been stuck in my igloo for the last 10 years unable to get out due to the snow storms that we have up here and the lack of sunlight keeps all the women from getting bitchy and i lost my snow shoes so i guess i won’t be able to “get out more” [/quote]

Igloos? I thought it was all moose, trees and tons of French people with weird accents?

Where did the igloos come from?

Yeah, Canada…it’s just like Compton.

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statistically speaking, women are more likely to abuse their partner and more likely to use lethal objects.

In a vacuum, if somebody attacks me I’m going to use whatever force I feel like, regardless of gender.

That being said, if I’m in a relationship with a girl and she decides she’s going to hit me, I’m going to use a hidden camera, catch her in the act, and file a for a restraining order.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
countingbeans wrote:

And yes the laws fucking suck in this instance for the men, but sometimes these laws actually do save women’s lives.

Haha, what?

Haven’t been around much abuse I take it?

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Don’t most of the abused women go back to their boyfriends and husbands?
I am failing to see exactly what these laws do.

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
legendaryblaze wrote:
countingbeans wrote:

And yes the laws fucking suck in this instance for the men, but sometimes these laws actually do save women’s lives.

Haha, what?

Haven’t been around much abuse I take it?

Don’t most of the abused women go back to their boyfriends and husbands?
I am failing to see exactly what these laws do.
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Have you ever spoken to a woman/wife who was a victim of sposual abuse?