Woman Beaters=Cowards

[quote]Westclock wrote:

Perhaps its different elsewhere in the US, but I live in the deep south, this is Texas, in most areas…if you were to hit a girl in public, or even grab her wrists aggressively, most of the guys in the immediate area would come to her aid more or less immediately.
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That is true, but again, that has more to do with there being some initial reaction in any situation that assumes the female is innocent. That is due to the same social problem we are discussing now…the same one that convicts five guys in the public arena before a trial for raping a girl all because she said it happened when it didn’t.

I have been at a bar/restaurant and had a girl with her guy sitting next to her act as if she were going to beat me up…and I was at least 260lbs back then but this “woman” wasn’t exactly tiny and while she flailed her arms around threatening me with her finger on my forehead pushing me at the skull at the same time, her guy that was sitting with her did nothing.

Any guy her size would have been floored in that same situation…yet women KNOW that in society they can get away with things like that so they push the limits. Some even seem to go further out of their way to start something the bigger you are.

What is being said is that so many women use this as some source of empowerment to gain leverage in social situations that no man could ever get away with even with other guys.

We aren’t talking about poor defenseless innocent women who are being beaten by evil men at home but BIG, strong, loud, aggressive women that use the fact that they are female to manipulate dudes.

Everything is situational

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

We aren’t talking about poor defenseless innocent women who are being beaten by evil men at home but BIG, strong, loud, aggressive women that use the fact that they are female to manipulate dudes.[/quote]

Right. And it is the first group that has made the situation possible for the second group.

So, what do we do?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I have been at a bar/restaurant and had a girl with her guy sitting next to her act as if she were going to beat me up…and I was at least 260lbs back then but this “woman” wasn’t exactly tiny and while she flailed her arms around threatening me with her finger on my forehead pushing me at the skull at the same time, her guy that was sitting with her did nothing.

Any guy her size would have been floored in that same situation…yet women KNOW that in society they can get away with things like that so they push the limits. Some even seem to go further out of their way to start something the bigger you are.

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Oh shit what happened next? You cant just leave it at that cliffhanger!

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Westclock wrote:

Perhaps its different elsewhere in the US, but I live in the deep south, this is Texas, in most areas…if you were to hit a girl in public, or even grab her wrists aggressively, most of the guys in the immediate area would come to her aid more or less immediately.

That is true, but again, that has more to do with there being some initial reaction in any situation that assumes the female is innocent. That is due to the same social problem we are discussing now…the same one that convicts five guys in the public arena before a trial for raping a girl all because she said it happened when it didn’t.

I have been at a bar/restaurant and had a girl with her guy sitting next to her act as if she were going to beat me up…and I was at least 260lbs back then but this “woman” wasn’t exactly tiny and while she flailed her arms around threatening me with her finger on my forehead pushing me at the skull at the same time, her guy that was sitting with her did nothing.

Any guy her size would have been floored in that same situation…yet women KNOW that in society they can get away with things like that so they push the limits. Some even seem to go further out of their way to start something the bigger you are.

What is being said is that so many women use this as some source of empowerment to gain leverage in social situations that no man could ever get away with even with other guys.

We aren’t talking about poor defenseless innocent women who are being beaten by evil men at home but BIG, strong, loud, aggressive women that use the fact that they are female to manipulate dudes.[/quote]

No offense but you need to stop dating so many black girls.

Us crackers don’t have nearly as many problems with giant domineering out of control women poking our faces and attacking us with frying pans.

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Westclock wrote:

Perhaps its different elsewhere in the US, but I live in the deep south, this is Texas, in most areas…if you were to hit a girl in public, or even grab her wrists aggressively, most of the guys in the immediate area would come to her aid more or less immediately.

That is true, but again, that has more to do with there being some initial reaction in any situation that assumes the female is innocent. That is due to the same social problem we are discussing now…the same one that convicts five guys in the public arena before a trial for raping a girl all because she said it happened when it didn’t.

I have been at a bar/restaurant and had a girl with her guy sitting next to her act as if she were going to beat me up…and I was at least 260lbs back then but this “woman” wasn’t exactly tiny and while she flailed her arms around threatening me with her finger on my forehead pushing me at the skull at the same time, her guy that was sitting with her did nothing.

Any guy her size would have been floored in that same situation…yet women KNOW that in society they can get away with things like that so they push the limits. Some even seem to go further out of their way to start something the bigger you are.

What is being said is that so many women use this as some source of empowerment to gain leverage in social situations that no man could ever get away with even with other guys.

We aren’t talking about poor defenseless innocent women who are being beaten by evil men at home but BIG, strong, loud, aggressive women that use the fact that they are female to manipulate dudes.

No offense but you need to stop dating so many black girls.

Us crackers don’t have nearly as many problems with giant domineering out of control women poking our faces and attacking us with frying pans.[/quote]

That girl was hispanic. Quit assuming shit.

[quote]mr popular wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Westclock wrote:

Perhaps its different elsewhere in the US, but I live in the deep south, this is Texas, in most areas…if you were to hit a girl in public, or even grab her wrists aggressively, most of the guys in the immediate area would come to her aid more or less immediately.

That is true, but again, that has more to do with there being some initial reaction in any situation that assumes the female is innocent. That is due to the same social problem we are discussing now…the same one that convicts five guys in the public arena before a trial for raping a girl all because she said it happened when it didn’t.

I have been at a bar/restaurant and had a girl with her guy sitting next to her act as if she were going to beat me up…and I was at least 260lbs back then but this “woman” wasn’t exactly tiny and while she flailed her arms around threatening me with her finger on my forehead pushing me at the skull at the same time, her guy that was sitting with her did nothing.

Any guy her size would have been floored in that same situation…yet women KNOW that in society they can get away with things like that so they push the limits. Some even seem to go further out of their way to start something the bigger you are.

What is being said is that so many women use this as some source of empowerment to gain leverage in social situations that no man could ever get away with even with other guys.

We aren’t talking about poor defenseless innocent women who are being beaten by evil men at home but BIG, strong, loud, aggressive women that use the fact that they are female to manipulate dudes.

No offense but you need to stop dating so many black girls.

Us crackers don’t have nearly as many problems with giant domineering out of control women poking our faces and attacking us with frying pans.[/quote]

Of course you all don’t have that problem…Transformers,PSPs,and Naruto DVDs keep the boys happy.

FUCK Clip and the can’s of worms he likes to open… lol

Now I’m gonna think about this shit into next week

[quote]Professor X wrote:
That girl was hispanic. Quit assuming shit.[/quote]

All I can picture is Rosie Perez coming at you.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
slapchop wrote:
Professor X wrote:
slapchop wrote:
Makavali wrote:
But then again, the reason I’ve never been arrested for beating up women is because I tend to hang out with the ones that aren’t bat shit crazy.

exactly

Then neither of you must get out much.

Oh, wait…aren’t you Canadian?

Let me know the next time you go out with a woman from The Bronx, or Compton…or 3rd Ward Houston.

darn you nailed it right on the head i have been stuck in my igloo for the last 10 years unable to get out due to the snow storms that we have up here and the lack of sunlight keeps all the women from getting bitchy and i lost my snow shoes so i guess i won’t be able to “get out more”

Igloos? I thought it was all moose, trees and tons of French people with weird accents?

Where did the igloos come from?

Yeah, Canada…it’s just like Compton.[/quote]

Nice Mountie. needs a tim horton coffee and donut though to be accurate
anyhow
just saying that i have met women who are not right in the head and i don’t hang around, don’t need the drama or attention. But some guys like the crazy and put themselves into the situations that are being talked about here. So if the put themselves into it they can get themselves out without knocking a girl around i think. Cause no matter what you do if you strike back people are going to frown on it and that is just a fact of life. So take the punch or the kick in the junk and stay out of jail. Now if it is a life over limb (gun, knife, bat, photos of you with her mom) you are going to react to save your self, fight or flight that is just human nature.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
mr popular wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Westclock wrote:

Perhaps its different elsewhere in the US, but I live in the deep south, this is Texas, in most areas…if you were to hit a girl in public, or even grab her wrists aggressively, most of the guys in the immediate area would come to her aid more or less immediately.

That is true, but again, that has more to do with there being some initial reaction in any situation that assumes the female is innocent. That is due to the same social problem we are discussing now…the same one that convicts five guys in the public arena before a trial for raping a girl all because she said it happened when it didn’t.

I have been at a bar/restaurant and had a girl with her guy sitting next to her act as if she were going to beat me up…and I was at least 260lbs back then but this “woman” wasn’t exactly tiny and while she flailed her arms around threatening me with her finger on my forehead pushing me at the skull at the same time, her guy that was sitting with her did nothing.

Any guy her size would have been floored in that same situation…yet women KNOW that in society they can get away with things like that so they push the limits. Some even seem to go further out of their way to start something the bigger you are.

What is being said is that so many women use this as some source of empowerment to gain leverage in social situations that no man could ever get away with even with other guys.

We aren’t talking about poor defenseless innocent women who are being beaten by evil men at home but BIG, strong, loud, aggressive women that use the fact that they are female to manipulate dudes.

No offense but you need to stop dating so many black girls.

Us crackers don’t have nearly as many problems with giant domineering out of control women poking our faces and attacking us with frying pans.

That girl was hispanic. Quit assuming shit.[/quote]

Well this wasn’t your girl then. Just some random bitch.

That changes the situation. she was taking advantage of the fact that you couldn’t hit her to just do what she wanted.

The solution is to hit her guy. You cant hurt her by hurting him. He should control his girl, or atleast attempt to, its his responsibility because YOU cant do anything, your hands are tied.

Honestly this situation has never happened to me… there are usually several girls in our group when I go out, and most aren’t big, fat angry girls like you described…but many of them are pretty built for girls, many of them lift or played sports, alot of southern and small town girls around here, not big girls, but they used to fight their brothers…so they can dish it out even if they are little.

Ive been in several situations where the girls will handle the other girls if they get in an argument.

Guys only fight guys, girls only fight girls.

Guys from both groups will usually let their girls go at it if they want to, and only step in if it starts getting out of hand.

As you can imagine girl fights often end in the guys trying to break it up, and in the process one side perceives that the other was too rough or they didnt like how they were talking to their girls, etc, and they digress into simply brawling it out with each other. But either way the girls stop fighting.

Im not sure what would we would do if several manish, fat, woman with no men near-by were to start picking on our girls…

Im not sure how we could appropriately handle that other than simply restraining them, and certainly that would not be all THAT easy if they are running wild.

I suppose the bouncers or the police would be needed in that case.

Self defense or defense of another is a lawful defense as long as the force is not excessive.

Pushing or shoving a girl away from yours would be reasonable in the court’s eyes. Punching usually isn’t.

I hope I dont encounter that…ever.

Please, PLEASE, don’t involve race in that stuff, in no time this thread will become a flame war.

And yes, I have to agree, assumptions and stereotypes are against males. But now, what can we do, as a society, to get rid off those stereotypes and generalisations about men?

If we start up by cleaning the media of mysandry, getting a fair judicial system with no double standards and starting to respect fathers’/men’s rights groups, we’ll have a good start.

[quote]Annihilator wrote:
If we start up by cleaning the media of mysandry, getting a fair judicial system with no double standards and starting to respect fathers’/men’s rights groups, we’ll have a good start.[/quote]

Yeah that’ll happen.

I was raised old fashioned and used to believe in standing up for women and all that shit. Experience has taught me otherwise. Most of the male-female violence I see is between two people dating (to use that term loosely and out of politeness). The woman is the sort who craves bad boys and will continually go back time and again to any guy who hits her. Its her choice so let her suffer the consequences.

If I see something that is a mugging or something that is similar then I’ll do something. But all the male-female violence I have ever seen was between two people sleeping together and in that case the woman made her choice and who are we to passing judgment on her and her choices?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
slapchop wrote:
Professor X wrote:
slapchop wrote:
Makavali wrote:
But then again, the reason I’ve never been arrested for beating up women is because I tend to hang out with the ones that aren’t bat shit crazy.

exactly

Then neither of you must get out much.

Oh, wait…aren’t you Canadian?

Let me know the next time you go out with a woman from The Bronx, or Compton…or 3rd Ward Houston.

darn you nailed it right on the head i have been stuck in my igloo for the last 10 years unable to get out due to the snow storms that we have up here and the lack of sunlight keeps all the women from getting bitchy and i lost my snow shoes so i guess i won’t be able to “get out more”

Igloos? I thought it was all moose, trees and tons of French people with weird accents?

Where did the igloos come from?

Yeah, Canada…it’s just like Compton.[/quote]

I sez pardon?

  1. She’s from Abbotsford, British Columbia. (So yeah, she didn’t need to use a ‘piece’)
  2. Alcohol was a factor.
  3. The Soldiers she shit-kicked were English, so no huge credit there.

[quote]LiftingOne25 wrote:

You do make a good point, there are cases of men being abused by women as well, but its well below 2-5%. That’s the problem, if this was a question, irregardless of gender doing the hitting, it would be considered an assault in most cases.

That’s how twisted the system is, and in fact, the SYSTEM does not favor the woman over the man by any means. Women try to leave more then once from their perpetrators, easier said then done. We are talking about life and death,… survival, the worst case scenario. Defending oneself in an isolated incident of assault is much different then systematic abuse. [/quote]

Haha, actually men are guessed to be abused more than women, but since men do not report a large majority of the incidents they can not say what the numbers would be. The numbers are much higher than 2-5%, maybe put some zero’s on that number. Men just do not report it, because either we don’t have a vagina, or we do have a vagina and do not want people to know we are reporting a woman for hitting us.

I actually do not give a fuck, I’ll put my boot up a woman’s ass if she gets out of line. I do not deal with that shit, I have dealt with hot headed women, I still won’t let someone treat me like that. Learned it from my mammy, who ironically hit me for no reason as well.

I’ve dealt with everything from sitting in the living room watching television and had shit thrown at me because of something I “supposedly” said, being blind sided by foreign objects. I’ve had woman be pissed off at me for no apparent reason and as Professor X said, come at me with a knife in the middle of the night while getting a drink. But, shit life ain’t fair. So a woman can hit a man and a man cannot hit a man. Deal with it otherwise, do not complain about the rules, learn to play by the rules or learn to play around them. Kick a woman in the ass (literally) and try see how she proves you abused her. Won’t happen.

Just remember life isn’t fair, so stop saying it should be. Women won’t be equal to men, they won’t be paid as much, they will never be stronger. They will always be viewed as the weaker sex, that is dainty as the flower and shouldn’t be abused. Doesn’t matter if that flower wields a kitchen knife or an aluminum bat.

Stop bitchin’ about the rules and play the game.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Annihilator wrote:

If you want to fix the law, start by applying them. YES, even if the defendant has a vagina.

I don’t personally have an issue with that at all.

And there was an instance of this happening at a Patriots game recently. From what I understand chick went nuts and started hitting her boyfriend. She was the one cuffed and arrested. But that is in public.

When the issue is he said/she said is when it gets fucked up. How do you know who is full of shit?

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No one can think you’re full of shit if you don’t speak. Who the hell talks to the police anymore?

[quote]Westclock wrote:
The “defending yourself” is a moot point, just restrain her if she does anything crazy like pulling a knife or something…

Men should never need to assert their dominance physically, it should NEVER be questioned.
Only weaker/small guys hit girls, because they have to actually prove to them that they are stronger.

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Restraining someone is physically asserting your dominance…

I’m surprised no one has mentioned the video from the first post at all. I obviously agree that hitting women is awful and should be avoided whenever possible (which is almost always), but Judge Mathis is a great example of what is wrong with the ‘system’. The man saying he pushed past the woman because she was blocking him on the stairs, and Judge Mathis immediately saying ‘thats assault’. And, more so, the man saying the woman was hitting him and he grabbed her to stop her, and Judge Mathis says ‘that’s assault’ too. Seriously, what the fuck is the guy supposed to do in either situation?

[quote]SWR wrote:
Westclock wrote:
The “defending yourself” is a moot point, just restrain her if she does anything crazy like pulling a knife or something…

Men should never need to assert their dominance physically, it should NEVER be questioned.
Only weaker/small guys hit girls, because they have to actually prove to them that they are stronger.

Restraining someone is physically asserting your dominance…[/quote]

But not purely for the sake of doing so. Its a purely defensive action. Your restraining her because shes TRYING to hurt you, not because you want to assert yourself as stronger.

Any court, no matter how conservative, would call that “reasonable force” as applied to the laws of self-defense.