I love the internet.
Everybody has balls the size of Kansas online and every F’er knows everything. If you can’t post pics of your knowledge via your phsyique you should probably stay off the keyboard. I get tired of reading through these insult laden posts where people would rather insult than educate someone.
Internet Warriors!!!
Somebody should start a Pics or Don’t post thread. If you don’t have your personal stats uploaded along with physique photos then your accout gets locked and you can only read.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Maybe it’s the friends I grew up with in Queens, NY, and how we bust each others’ balls; lightly use words like “jagoff”, “asshole”, “jerkoff”, “schmuck”, “schlub”, and “schlep”; and have a way of fast and sarcastic talk. So that spilled onto here through the years. And sometimes I feel that I might not get a point across unless I use emotionally loaded words because it seems that a lot of people on the net–
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I have a colleague from Long Island. Ph.D. in Chemical engineering. I went to grad school with him. He’s definitely got a cocky attitude when he talks. If you don’t know him, it can come off the wrong way. He tells me his wife still gets a look of shock on her face when they visit his parents on the Island and he slips back into his vulgar ways. I think the way he speaks hurts him a bit professionally, but at least he’s honest.
So, I can understand where brick is “friggin’ coming from”. New yorkers are loud mouths. 
Over the internet especially, you’re bound to run into people who grew up in a very different environment than you. All the more reason to try and keep the conversation away from personal attacks.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
The one on the right is one of those “6’s”. She’s got a hard time getting men. LOL![/quote]
You really don’t need to defend yourself…but you could post more pics of her.[/quote]
Alright, dude.
Here’s another pic. [/quote]
Nice friend by the way.
[quote]DJS wrote:
Personally… if stronghold would of made a great case as to why you were wrong and we all learned something than this thread could of turned around. Instead he attacked you personaly to silence you because he doesn’t think you should be talking at all. He would of been more sucessful in his attempt to discredit you if he could of done it with ideas. But evidently he couldn’t.[/quote]
Brick was not "attacked in this thread. He was trying to start a train wreck and if you look at his posts around here, he thinks everyone i a bunch of “jagoffs”.
Also the strategy you are stating that stronghold used as far as “debating” is the same method brick and others have used against my arguemets. And I agree, its a sign they either dont know what they are talking about or haven’t taken the time to formulate an opinion.
[quote]dankid wrote:
[quote]DJS wrote:
Personally… if stronghold would of made a great case as to why you were wrong and we all learned something than this thread could of turned around. Instead he attacked you personaly to silence you because he doesn’t think you should be talking at all. He would of been more sucessful in his attempt to discredit you if he could of done it with ideas. But evidently he couldn’t.[/quote]
Brick was not "attacked in this thread. He was trying to start a train wreck and if you look at his posts around here, he thinks everyone i a bunch of “jagoffs”.
Also the strategy you are stating that stronghold used as far as “debating” is the same method brick and others have used against my arguemets. And I agree, its a sign they either dont know what they are talking about or haven’t taken the time to formulate an opinion.[/quote]
But youre small and weak and the people who argue against you aren’t. Small detail you left out of your analysis.
[quote]dankid wrote:
[quote]DJS wrote:
Personally… if stronghold would of made a great case as to why you were wrong and we all learned something than this thread could of turned around. Instead he attacked you personaly to silence you because he doesn’t think you should be talking at all. He would of been more sucessful in his attempt to discredit you if he could of done it with ideas. But evidently he couldn’t.[/quote]
Brick was not "attacked in this thread. He was trying to start a train wreck and if you look at his posts around here, he thinks everyone i a bunch of “jagoffs”.
Also the strategy you are stating that stronghold used as far as “debating” is the same method brick and others have used against my arguemets. And I agree, its a sign they either dont know what they are talking about or haven’t taken the time to formulate an opinion.[/quote]
Dude, I DON’T think everyone on here is a jagoff. I’ve made a real friend from this site and have conversed with several people on here via regular email, Facebook, and phone.
You accuse me of being unaccepting of other methods. Meanwhile I have books, videos, and articles by Bill Starr, Ian King, Joe Defranco, Eric Cressey, Jim Wendler, Charles Poliquin Paul Chek, and others. I don’t know where you got this from.
When did I ever try to argue or debate with you? When have I ever started in with you? I don’t recall. If I truly offended you in the past, I apologize again. If you don’t accept it and you’re not fond of me, I understand.
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Somebody should start a Pics or Don’t post thread. If you don’t have your personal stats uploaded along with physique photos then your accout gets locked and you can only read.[/quote]
I fully intend on doing that - when I’m ready. Not because I really want to, but because people tend to expect it for “reassurance” lol.
At the moment, I am well on my way to reaching my goals, which is a lot to do with advice I’ve picked up here on the forums (good advice is easy to see when you’ve already had some experience), and it’s partly to do with my own experience (especially the diet side).
But pictures aren’t the “be all and end all” as many seem to make them out to be. Someone a lot less developed can post pictures that look better than the developed person simply because of big factors such as better lighting, a tan and lower bodyfat.
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Ok, last post apparently didn’t get through.
Brick, I got your pm, but apparently can’t answer. Get my e-mail from Austin, Josh or Bug if you like (if you’re reading this guys: It’s okay, and yeah, you can charge him 10 dollars
[quote]trextacy wrote:
Read the “Truth about bulking” article by CT- you can grow about 1 lb of dry muscle per month naturally, yet someone posts a 12 lbs muscle gain in a year (assuming older than 22) and people here mock them. Why? Because their perspective is fucked up because of what is served up as “normal” and reasonable. Reasonable expectations and awareness of limitations are not anti-hardcore. It’s reality.
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Is this 1lbs of muscle supposed to be a limit?
Have you checked out Kingbeef’s progress in the picture forum? That was about the same progress I made in terms of body weight gain at about the same stage even though he has better genetics for staying leaner while gaining.
Is his progress impossible?
If he is doing it, and I know I did it, why are you trying to convince people that it can’t be done or that our goals should be lessened?
I don’t really care for a response as reading what you write make me nauseated…but I did want to point out the progress being made right now by one of our members that some of you seem to think can’t be done.
Wow - 11 pages arguing about the same stupid shit. Too funny…
And the usual cast of retards is here, plus a couple of new asswipes who want to tell the silly bodybuilders how they’re doing it all wrong.
And bonus - Internet tough-guys threatening to kick people’s asses!! Man, this thread truly has it all. If we could get some clowns and maybe balloons in here, it would be the greatest thread ever!!
LMAO…
It baffles me why some on this site always refer to scientific claims, pounds of muscle that can or can not be gained, what kind of carbs pre workout, advanced proteins and all this senseless bullshit. I know I will get a lot of crap for saying this but if any body goes over to any other forums (wont insert name, use your imagination) alot of members are making alot of progress without taking into account every single fucking equation.
i hate when people say you can only gain 12 pounds of muscle a year. alright dude you gain 12-thats fine. i think i like the non scientific method where i eat my ass of (no super complex hydration vasolidation advanced protein formula) just chicken and steak and train like the dude who is bigger me trains and gain 20-30 pounds. Ive seen it happen. Shit I gained close to 25 pounds my first 3 months training by doing nothing but eating and lifting heavy.
If your an athlete train to become a better athlete. Powerlifter? train to become stronger at the three lifts. Bodybuilder? Train to get as jacked as possible, in the right places.
Brick, you don’t need to defend yourself. Who cares what the board warriors think? As long as you are making progress toward YOUR goals, that’s all that matters.
People that get into personal attacks only hurt themselves in the long run. Most of the guys here recognize it for what it is, and there’s no need to lower yourself to their level.
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Somebody should start a Pics or Don’t post thread. If you don’t have your personal stats uploaded along with physique photos then your accout gets locked and you can only read.[/quote]
I fully intend on doing that - when I’m ready. Not because I really want to, but because people tend to expect it for “reassurance” lol.
At the moment, I am well on my way to reaching my goals, which is a lot to do with advice I’ve picked up here on the forums (good advice is easy to see when you’ve already had some experience), and it’s partly to do with my own experience (especially the diet side).
But pictures aren’t the “be all and end all” as many seem to make them out to be. Someone a lot less developed can post pictures that look better than the developed person simply because of big factors such as better lighting, a tan and lower bodyfat.[/quote]
If you’re a bodybuilder pictures are pretty much proof positive of your work and knowledge. Yeah lighting and having a tan can add a bit but they aren’t going to make a huge guy look tiny.
Thanks dude! And thanks to everyone else too.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Somebody should start a Pics or Don’t post thread. If you don’t have your personal stats uploaded along with physique photos then your accout gets locked and you can only read.[/quote]
I fully intend on doing that - when I’m ready. Not because I really want to, but because people tend to expect it for “reassurance” lol.
At the moment, I am well on my way to reaching my goals, which is a lot to do with advice I’ve picked up here on the forums (good advice is easy to see when you’ve already had some experience), and it’s partly to do with my own experience (especially the diet side).
But pictures aren’t the “be all and end all” as many seem to make them out to be. Someone a lot less developed can post pictures that look better than the developed person simply because of big factors such as better lighting, a tan and lower bodyfat.[/quote]
If you’re a bodybuilder pictures are pretty much proof positive of your work and knowledge. Yeah lighting and having a tan can add a bit but they aren’t going to make a huge guy look tiny.
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Agreed. You may be able to show more definition with lighting, but no amount of lighting is going to make 170lbs look like 270lbs.
If you are on a bodybuilding forum claiming you have advice to give to other experienced trainers, you had better have the progress made yourself or directly involved as others did it. Otherwise, your opinion just doesn’t mean as much.
Period.
I don’t see why this even bothers people…unless we have a ton of people making no progress handing out advice to those who are…which I just KNOW can’t be either happening or desired here.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
Somebody should start a Pics or Don’t post thread. If you don’t have your personal stats uploaded along with physique photos then your accout gets locked and you can only read.[/quote]
I fully intend on doing that - when I’m ready. Not because I really want to, but because people tend to expect it for “reassurance” lol.
At the moment, I am well on my way to reaching my goals, which is a lot to do with advice I’ve picked up here on the forums (good advice is easy to see when you’ve already had some experience), and it’s partly to do with my own experience (especially the diet side).
But pictures aren’t the “be all and end all” as many seem to make them out to be. Someone a lot less developed can post pictures that look better than the developed person simply because of big factors such as better lighting, a tan and lower bodyfat.[/quote]
If you’re a bodybuilder pictures are pretty much proof positive of your work and knowledge. Yeah lighting and having a tan can add a bit but they aren’t going to make a huge guy look tiny.
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Maybe I’m just being picky…
You’ll always prejudice/ignorant ones. Some think that if you don’t have sharp abs, you’re “nothing”. Or on the other side of the fence, you’ll get smug ones who think that their 200lbs frame with 20% bf is somehow more developed and impressive than someone’s ripped frame at 180lbs.
But I stand by most of what I said; generally shedding some fat does make you look bigger (when comparing photos at a glance). Even if not, the leaner guy (provided he has some “meat” on him) will still look more aesthetically pleasing…especially to your average untrained eye.
I’m not saying all this like it’s something new, I thought it was pretty common knowledge…
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
Maybe I’m just being picky…
You’ll always prejudice/ignorant ones. Some think that if you don’t have sharp abs, you’re “nothing”. Or on the other side of the fence, you’ll get smug ones who think that their 200lbs frame with 20% bf is somehow more developed and impressive than someone’s ripped frame at 180lbs.
But I stand by most of what I said; generally shedding some fat does make you look bigger (when comparing photos at a glance). Even if not, the leaner guy (provided he has some “meat” on him) will still look more aesthetically pleasing…especially to your average untrained eye.
I’m not saying all this like it’s something new, I thought it was pretty common knowledge…[/quote]
The problem here then, OBVIOUSLY, is that we should quit allowing “the average untrained eye” to have so much of a voice without anyone contradicting it.
Most EXPERIENCED people here can see the size on someone like “maraudermeat” on this site even when he was up around his past “fatter” 290lbs and wouldn’t just write him off as a “fat ass”.
However, UNexperienced people like Dankid did label him that way before he knew who it was.
Therefore, we eliminate guys like Dankid and we can get back to some serious weight lifting again.
Most serious weightlifters do NOT judge someone as clueless simply because their abs aren’t visible. Only newbs and dumbasses like The Butt Clan do shit like that.
The rest of us can see the muscle on someone who is 290lbs and 20% body fat…or 185lbs and 5% body fat. Simply being lean does not mean someone who only weighs 160lbs with abs looks more impressive than someone who is 280lbs with “blurry” abs.
We know that the 280lbs guy is carrying a shit load more muscle and getting lean isn’t exactly the same feat as gaining 120lbs of muscle.
In the end, pictures matter AS WELL AS training knowledge.
No one is suggesting we listen to some retard who literally knows nothing simply because they are bigger…but I will say it would be pretty fucking rare to find some HUGE bodybuilder that you literally can’t learn anything from at all.
The posters launching personal attacks on Bricknyce didn’t acquit themselves very well here. After taking almost two months away from this site (mainly to regain some sanity), I return, only to have to witness a very cowardly and unwarranted attack on one of the most passionate members here.
I took five minutes to skim over this thread and understood that Brick was criticizing the coaches and trainers who market themselves as bodybuilding gurus, in spite of never having dipped their toes in the water or even having achieved a competition-level physique (and there are plenty of them out there)…
He was not attacking Jim Wendler, powerlifters, martial artists/ combat athletes (in fairness though, I don’t think tap_u_out was threatening anybody) or competitive dwarf throwers for that matter.
For shame, ye of little comprehension. For shame.
Nice to see that the irrepressible Dankid has increased his fan club membership, though.