nobody on this site has a good body (except modok and CT), if anyone on this site came up to me in the gym to give me advice I’d laugh hysterically in their face.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Since TD and Purple have already thoroughly vetted Dankid, here’s Brick in a picture posted 2 years ago, when he claims he was “at his peak”.
You guys have fun, I’m done.[/quote]
I really hope you are done.
Three ladies around him. Yeah, how embarrassing.[/quote]
I didn’t realize getting your picture taken with a couple of 6’s had anything to do with knowledge of bodybuilding. I’ll have to keep that in mind.[/quote]
It has nothing to do with bodybuilding. I don’t rate friends–female or male–but the one on the right, regardless of what YOU rate her has to fight men off with a stick! That’s the truth! I went to school and worked with her for years.
And yup, in that pic I’m between 240 and 250. Do you see my back and thighs (my best responding bodyparts - also the bodyparts that hold the most weight) and traps in that pic? No, you don’t. So you have no weigh to judge how much I weigh in the pic. If you think I don’t weigh that much in the pic, that’s fine.
You’ve really surprised me. I admit I’ve acted a bit immature, sarcastic, and juvenile in these threads sometimes, and now that some people have pointed it out, I think I’ll pinch myself before doing so beacause I’ve realized there are some good people in here. How you have surprised me is that you tracked my face on here and FB. That’s really taking it to another level - to bring up pictures of me and comment not only on my physique but on my facial appearance (Papa Smurf, bead-eyed).
I really don’t care for making threats, but if you did take it to another level in person, big, small, short, tall, I’d be taking it to another level as well.
It appears you’re a literalist in that you think I actually believe everyone on here is a jagoff. You couldn’t tell by now that I use the term loosely and casually? If it’s insulting to some, I’ll stop and I apologize - seriously.
[quote]charlotte49er wrote:
nobody on this site has a good body (except modok and CT), if anyone on this site came up to me in the gym to give me advice I’d laugh hysterically in their face. [/quote]
That would make you an idiot. Thanks for letting the rest of us know.
I learned some of the best info from guys who were just a little bigger than me but had been training longer. They might never win a bodybuilding show, but you would be one dumb son of a bitch to think someone who lifted weights regularly for 20 years has nothing you can learn from at all.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]doubleh wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Since TD and Purple have already thoroughly vetted Dankid, here’s Brick in a picture posted 2 years ago, when he claims he was “at his peak”.
You guys have fun, I’m done.[/quote]
I don’t get this one. It’s impossible to tell exactly how big he is in that picture. He’s certainly not small, though. Plus the chicks like him.
Again, I ask, why the hatred for Brick? Is it really just over his posts, that were so bad you pulled FB pics, or is there something else? Also, SH, I assume your size dwarfs Brick’s?[/quote]
I make no claims of ever being a bodybuilder, and I therefor avoid posting advice on anything but the most common sense issues pertaining to bodybuilding. I do, however, have recent pictures of myself posted in the 18" arms thread as well as pictures in various places around this site. Some are several years old of me when I started lifting and others are more recent. I am currently 210 and 15% bf at a height of 5’6".
I’ve already explained my issues with Brick several times in this thread.[/quote]
LOL at my inadvertant use of the word “dwarf”.
Anyway - if you are not training like a bodybuilder, and your issues are only with Brick’s supposed condescending posts - you could have come up with a much better target. Brick’s advice is mostly on point. There’s got to be more than a dozen on this site whose advice is not.
Like someone else said, seems pretty childish to go to this length over the tone of a guy’s posts - especially when those posts are at least knowledgable, which is more than I can say of a lot of posts I see here. But whatever, knock yourself out.
I’m done here, you guys have fun.
And for the record…
That pic in the sleeveless is from last summer, a significant amount of time AFTER I gave up the idea of being so goddamn big. YEAH, my goals changed drastically in the past two years. I spent last summer mostly playing handball, basketball, eating normal meals when I was hungry (usually 4 to 5 over my usual 6), and just enjoying my life. I only lifted 2 to 3 times per week. (Does that sound like the stuff I recommend someone do to get jacked as possible?)
Like I said, YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW OLD ON FB IS REGARDLESS OF WHEN THEY WERE POSTED OR HOW I’VE LOOKED EVERY YEAR OF MY LIFE. I’ve been a fan of bobybuilding and reading mags and going to shows for FIFTEEN years - since I was 16 years old!
Now recently, I got a fitness bug again (for ONLY health and well-being) and am a bit more religious in my EXERCISE (not bodybuilding) routine consisting of running, swimming, and two full-body sessions.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]charlotte49er wrote:
nobody on this site has a good body (except modok and CT), if anyone on this site came up to me in the gym to give me advice I’d laugh hysterically in their face. [/quote]
That would make you an idiot. Thanks for letting the rest of us know.
I learned some of the best info from guys who were just a little bigger than me but had been training longer. They might never win a bodybuilding show, but you would be one dumb son of a bitch to think someone who lifted weights regularly for 20 years has nothing you can learn from at all.[/quote]
You post reminds me of Bithwell (sp) and David Cox. Two dudes who aren’t overly vocal, and aren’t 240lbs stage ready or anything, but two dudes who have busted fucking balls for a long time and could teach all of us a lot.
And that other guy that never posts anymore Tribulous (sp). He had one post I’ll never forget of lifting in a flooded basement by candle light or something. It said so much in one simple paragraph and every person on this board that needed to hear what he was trying to say, ignored it. It was one of those “how bad do you want it?” moments.
I’m not even sure where I’m going with this post at this point.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
Lol @ this thread such childish shit…[/quote]
Badly … resembles the usual shit-fest that goes on at bb.com ‘teen section’.
This is a pic from that same night with those three “6’s”. Not a shirtless pic, but I don’t think I look like some buck-sixty schlub in it either. That’s filling out an XL shirt not made to fit tight - that says SOMETHING, I THINK.
And by the way, those “6’s”… That was called for - to make fun of my CLOSE friends. I’m sure they’re unhappy over their 6 status, considering one of them has to fight men off with a stick, another is married to a great guy, and the other is in a loving relationship with a great guy too.
Forgot which year this was from. Definitely not huge, but I was making good gains at the time and was much younger.
Again, NOT a shirtless pic, but I think it’s fair to say that from the upper back and traps, I’m not in bad shape in this one.
STRONGHOLD went out of his way to find a pic of me on FB where I ADMITTEDLY look my schleppiest and most unkempt, pasty, and yeah, a bit soft - a pic from a time in which I just chilled the fuck out from bodybuilding for some time.
All of the ones I’m posting here are on FB, which goes to show that’s what he did.
The one on the right is one of those “6’s”. She’s got a hard time getting men. LOL!
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
The one on the right is one of those “6’s”. She’s got a hard time getting men. LOL![/quote]
You really don’t need to defend yourself…but you could post more pics of her.
The high school stuff is great and all…but what I want to know is… how do you take a photo and search the web for the same photo? That takes skillz.
Or… could it be that SH knows Brick in real life?
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]doubleh wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Since TD and Purple have already thoroughly vetted Dankid, here’s Brick in a picture posted 2 years ago, when he claims he was “at his peak”.
You guys have fun, I’m done.[/quote]
I don’t get this one. It’s impossible to tell exactly how big he is in that picture. He’s certainly not small, though. Plus the chicks like him.
Again, I ask, why the hatred for Brick? Is it really just over his posts, that were so bad you pulled FB pics, or is there something else? Also, SH, I assume your size dwarfs Brick’s?[/quote]
I make no claims of ever being a bodybuilder, and I therefor avoid posting advice on anything but the most common sense issues pertaining to bodybuilding. I do, however, have recent pictures of myself posted in the 18" arms thread as well as pictures in various places around this site. Some are several years old of me when I started lifting and others are more recent. I am currently 210 and 15% bf at a height of 5’6".
I’ve already explained my issues with Brick several times in this thread.[/quote]
Not to interupt your precious conversation, but shouldn’t you be patrolling the internet for pictures of your girlfriend’s ass?
late to thread as usual…
I don’t think I have ever seen anyone get really big yet not be strong. If your goal is size then you should obviously monitor if you are actually addng muscle, if you aren’t gaining muscle then you know that there is something wrong. This is so fucking simple… No?
Really you shouldn’t give a fuck how you gain size, if you gain best of a ‘strength’ program then why would you give a shit. There are too many people working off pre-fabricated routines which teaches you jack shit about how and what makes a program work. Nobody is willing to experiment with their own training anymore to see what actually works. This thread shouldn’t even exist, it is unfortunate that it does.
So the real problem is why are people so fucking dumb that they can’t monitor their own progress and tailor their own program to meet their specific goals. I know alot of big guys and there is probably something in the fact that not one of them works of a pre-designed program. Each of them takes responsibility for their own training.
[quote]charlotte49er wrote:
nobody on this site has a good body (except modok and CT), if anyone on this site came up to me in the gym to give me advice I’d laugh hysterically in their face. [/quote]
I was gonna finish reading posts before maybe/maybe not saying anything, but I wanted to quote this and laugh at it quick before I went back to reading. This statement here is like the embodiment of the argument this thread has turned into. A thousand internets to you sir, I hope this was a joke/troll.
Wow Stronghold needs to chill out. IMO Bricknyce is always contributing the best he can and like a normal person actually has different opinions on matters!! Yet to go out of your way to post personal pics trying to embarrass (which was a total fail)him and the subtle insult to his friends is well not very classy at all.
God help us!! Thanks for reminding me of the reasons for why I workout in my carport ALONE. I have gained a lot of valuable info from the T-Nation members , but when I come across BS, I skip over and keep reading without replying. Not to offend anyone , but I now see why the T-cell alpha was formed.
Blown away by this thread, I think too often we forget that bodybuilding results can vary greatly. People respond differently to things and so what works for one may not work for another. I personally have seen results going heavy and I have also seen results using a time under tension (TUT) approach. Neither is wrong or right, it’s simply a matter of what you respond to and find most effective. No matter what, you need to be disciplined and have your diet in check for either to make a difference. It’s obvious that too many people on this site worry about their routine, what special program they are using, and who said it’s good as opposed to focusing on a diet. It makes sense because monitoring what you eat and being disciplined is much more difficult than incorporating a 5/3/1 or DC training regiment.
I think the Bodybuilding Governor of California said it right in his encyclopedia. While hypertrophy is achieved in the 6 to 12 rep range a solid base of strength achieved through power-lifting is a necessary prerequisite. Several articles on here have alluded to the relation between poundage and muscle growth. In Bret Contreras article about shoulder and trap development, he measured a variety of exercises to quantify muscle fiber stimulation via EMG. If you notice the numbers posted on compound exercises with increasing weight, it is obvious that the more weight you can handle, the more fiber activation you elicit.
With this in mind, the magic 6 to 12 rep range for hypertrophy is only relevant if you are able to handle significant poundage in the first place. I see people my size every day at the gym following routines ripped right out of Flex magazine and making absolutely no progress. It is downright absurd to think that 4 sets of 12 dumbbell curls with 25 lbs in each hand would invoke any sort of hypertrophy. It is impossible to damage the muscle enough to see any real, lasting gains. It is much easier to quantify this phenomenon with simple mathematics. With 4 sets of 12 reps with 25 lb dumbbells, 2,400 pounds total weight is moved. In contrast, 10 sets of 4 with 45 lb dumbbells comes to a grand total of 3,600 pounds moved. It’s easy to see how less advanced bodybuilders could benefit from low rep training initially. Once the weights handled become too high, hypertrophy training comes into play, as compound lifts at a four rep or less max would be strenuous on the joints and difficult to recover from. The requirement of bodybuilding is frequency, so such high loads wouldn’t make sense. Four sets of 12 with 60 lb dumbells would total 5680 lbs, quite a bit of weight moved in short time considering a 30 second rest between sets. Arnold trained full body when he was building his base of strength prior to his bodybuilding heydey, and lifted like a power-lifter. I am a strong believer in the theory that people take what they want (in this case what seems easiest) from a training program and ignore the rest. Oh, and as a side note, machines are generally abhorred by the strength and function community but in a bodybuilding context you are able to handle more poundage than with free weights and doesn’t muscle respond to increased stress, whether or not the stabilizers are involved? Think about it…