[quote]Jhuczko wrote:
I think there form was fine…I assume they have a clue what they are doing. Throwing the weights would instantly fucking piss me off if I was working out anywhere around them or near them. Further more I would tell the dumbass to not throw the weights again and have him kicked out gym as well.
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Throwing the weights is allowed in the gym he trains in (metroflex).
As far as I’m concerned, this video just gives highschoolers an excuse to drop their weights.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Natural Nate wrote:
I was thinking the same thing.
Now a good question is, did they use a more limited ROM while building themselves up or switch to one as a necessary adaptation to their size?
Professor X wrote:
I honestly don’t get how most of you can see that the largest guys do often avoid the full range of motion…but it hasn’t sunk in yet that this is effective in some cases and might just be WHY they are that big. Instead, you see it as being wrong. That makes sense.
I did more full range of motion when I was a beginner. I’m not a beginner anymore and haven’t been for a long time. I know the point in a movement where my muscles are getting the most stress. I also know the exercises that working in that smaller range is actually a benefit…like some chest exercises or even side laterals.
Either way, if some guy is that much bigger than you, it helps to not assume that he did that by training “wrong”. No one gets that fucking big without having an injury that sidelines any further progress by training “wrong”.
I see more people who claim they are training right who now need surgery as a result.[/quote]
I never said it was wrong, I said it ws wierd, HOw often do you read or hear about doing partials for a large portion of your lifts?
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Natural Nate wrote:
I was thinking the same thing.
Now a good question is, did they use a more limited ROM while building themselves up or switch to one as a necessary adaptation to their size?
Professor X wrote:
I honestly don’t get how most of you can see that the largest guys do often avoid the full range of motion…but it hasn’t sunk in yet that this is effective in some cases and might just be WHY they are that big. Instead, you see it as being wrong. That makes sense.
I did more full range of motion when I was a beginner. I’m not a beginner anymore and haven’t been for a long time. I know the point in a movement where my muscles are getting the most stress. I also know the exercises that working in that smaller range is actually a benefit…like some chest exercises or even side laterals.
Either way, if some guy is that much bigger than you, it helps to not assume that he did that by training “wrong”. No one gets that fucking big without having an injury that sidelines any further progress by training “wrong”.
I see more people who claim they are training right who now need surgery as a result.
I never said it was wrong, I said it ws wierd, HOw often do you read or hear about doing partials for a large portion of your lifts?
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Uhm, how many people on this site have arms over 19"? That might just be why you haven’t personally heard of it. An article like that would be directed at advanced lifters who could probably compete in a heavy weight class if dieted down…of which there don’t seem to be very many on this web site.
[quote]Mr. Intensity wrote:
Awful video, guy appears to be as intelligent as he is healthy. Do people actually want to emulate his physique? I know I don’t. Does anyone actually train this way? Has common sense been lost when it comes to training?
And throwing the weights around the gym, I hope this was just for the video and not how he conducts himself in real life.
These guys use a limited ROM because they are grossly overgrown and bloated making full ROM movements uncomfortable, kind of like what happens when people get really fat and lose mobility, most of these bloated bodybuilders tend to waddle as apposed to walk as well, athletes? Lol. [/quote]
I’d so would have a body like Branch’s.
I would look like Branch if I could. This site is about getting big, right? Throwing weights around like that is probably fun as hell. Stupid and unsafe, but fun.
The only question I still have is why someone with such a great lower body is squatting what he incline presses.
[quote]Dirty_Bulk wrote:
I would look like Branch if I could. This site is about getting big, right? Throwing weights around like that is probably fun as hell. Stupid and unsafe, but fun.
The only question I still have is why someone with such a great lower body is squatting what he incline presses.[/quote]
Dude, it isn’t like he needs more size on his legs.
If anything, he may need to back off training them all together aside from just pre-contest.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, it isn’t like he needs more size on his legs.
If anything, he may need to back off training them all together aside from just pre-contest.
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Shit, he probably could go without training them year round, but I would assume he would wanna put up some big, impressive weight for his training video.
shit, at least he can throw the weights around and still bang out a hard set.
plus if you think about it, smashing weights and throwing shit around is a great way to get pumped up and keep that test and adrenaline going. id much rather go to a gym where that type of shit is permitted than one that plays 1980s R&B or country on the speakers. …shit at my gym they have a sign that says “failure to re-rack weights will result in membership termination”
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
shit, at least he can throw the weights around and still bang out a hard set.
plus if you think about it, smashing weights and throwing shit around is a great way to get pumped up and keep that test and adrenaline going. id much rather go to a gym where that type of shit is permitted than one that plays 1980s R&B or country on the speakers. …shit at my gym they have a sign that says “failure to re-rack weights will result in membership termination”[/quote]
Word.
Cant forget the risks or re-racking weight too loudly. That shit is reprehensible.
Dude…the avy is amazing. I really just cant stop staring at it…lol
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
4est wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
that was fucked up, and half of those lifts where partials.
fucking wierd
He is focusing on “time under tension” and not ROM.
a concept totally alien to me. :O[/quote]
Branch Warren Deadlifts 700 and he’s overhead pressed 345 for 6 reps or something crazy. He also has…massive legs. He won the NY Pro. He’s got his shit right.
That video was also shot extremely close to competition after he had been dieting for weeks. He had also done 100 reps of leg extensions beforehand. Maybe you don’t do leg extensions because you know the “right” way to train Legs and Branch Warren clearly doesn’t. So you probably don’t know if it’s difficult or not to squat 495 with an uber quad pump. I’m just gonna guess that it might compromise your range of motion.
[quote]FightingScott wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
4est wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
that was fucked up, and half of those lifts where partials.
fucking wierd
He is focusing on “time under tension” and not ROM.
a concept totally alien to me. 
Branch Warren Deadlifts 700 and he’s overhead pressed 345 for 6 reps or something crazy. He also has…massive legs. He won the NY Pro. He’s got his shit right.
That video was also shot extremely close to competition after he had been dieting for weeks. He had also done 100 reps of leg extensions beforehand. Maybe you don’t do leg extensions because you know the “right” way to train Legs and Branch Warren clearly doesn’t. So you probably don’t know if it’s difficult or not to squat 495 with an uber quad pump. I’m just gonna guess that it might compromise your range of motion. [/quote]
aww man, are you mad? That video is totally outside the norm, and I said it was wierd. get the fuck over it.
Prof X’s comments are spot on. I may add that bodybuilders really don’t give a shit about how much weight they are using, it’s more about are they using enough for the stimulus they want or they would be power lifters right? After 10+ years of lifting bodybuilders are moving decent weight totals and have the bod, if not then they are just spinning their wheels.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
…shit at my gym they have a sign that says “failure to re-rack weights will result in membership termination”[/quote]
I guess I’m the only one who hates picking up other people’s shit? What’s wrong with putting the weights back when you’re done with them?
because its just a pain in the ass. wth is wrong with leaving 1 45 on each side on a machine? especially on something like the bench or leg press where most people are going to be using at least that much.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
Mr. Intensity wrote:
I’d so would have a body like Branch’s.
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I have read this over and over and still can’t figure out what this means.
I would so would have a…
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
because its just a pain in the ass. wth is wrong with leaving 1 45 on each side on a machine? especially on something like the bench or leg press where most people are going to be using at least that much.
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Maybe because I like to warm up with less than that? I like to start warming up with just the bar at first. If you’ve already removed so much weight after your work set, why not just go ahead and remove the last 45 on each side?
[quote]Reef wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
because its just a pain in the ass. wth is wrong with leaving 1 45 on each side on a machine? especially on something like the bench or leg press where most people are going to be using at least that much.
Maybe because I like to warm up with less than that? I like to start warming up with just the bar at first. If you’ve already removed so much weight after your work set, why not just go ahead and remove the last 45 on each side? [/quote]
I am so glad I’ve had the experience of training in a gym that did not attract soccer moms. At the gym I trained at in Florida, no one would have given a shit if one 45lbs plate was left on the machine. That is mostly because I doubt there were very many weak enough to be using the bar only for a warm up.
You guys are complaining for no damn reason. If you go to a gym with huge mutherfuckers lifting, why would anyone take off that last 45lbs plate? I was a beginner the last time I started off with that much.
It is like it doesn’t even sink in that there are places around that don’t cater to people who feel comfortable listening to Avril Lavign on the speakers as they all need the weight removed from all bars.
It depends on your environment…which is why there is NOTHING wrong with that video.
If you go to a more “fitness oriented” gym where the biggest guy may be all of 190lbs, fine, remove ALL weight from the machine. If most of the guys look like they are months away from competition and the owner doesn’t give a shit if you train hard and toss the weights around, why would you care?
then take the weight off for a warm up. its going to be as much for you putting it off as it is for me putting it on. shit is a total pain in the ass.
and how the hell do you warmup with the bar…it weighs 45 fucking pounds. unless you weigh 90 pounds and are a dwarf you shouldnt be doing that.
I’m glad I checked out this thread, I had no idea people get so upset by this sort of behaviour. I guess me and my training buddies are done with our weekend warrior games…no more neoprene dumbbell tag at the mall! shit, just when I thought I found a new use for my weight belt…
those guys are athletes in the sport of bodybuilding. they might have different goals than you, and they might be prepared to sacrifice some ‘form’ to get results. Winning is winning!!