Respect given to Branch for his achievements in prof. bodybuilding but what fuck is he doing on his delt work. Y’all seen his take on the seated barbell shoulder press. Simply atrocious. sorry simply hardcore.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
Respect given to Branch for his achievements in prof. bodybuilding but what fuck is he doing on his delt work. Y’all seen his take on the seated barbell shoulder press. Simply atrocious. sorry simply hardcore. [/quote]
“Atrocious” built those delts…so what is the problem?
People imitating such behavior in an attempt at being hardcore. Hey im not taking away anything from Branch. I’m no one to to tell “Quadrasaurus Rex” how to train.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
People imitating such behavior in an attempt at being hardcore. Hey im not taking away anything from Branch. I’m no one to to tell “Quadrasaurus Rex” how to train. [/quote]
So, he should lift differently just in case someone thinks they should do exactly the same as a beginner?
If people imitate an action that isn’t optimal for them but is optimal for someone else, you blame that person, not the guy they are copying.
The bottom line is that “textbook” technique is not optimal for everyone, especially those who are advanced. It seems many beginners are clueless about this.
I understand what you are trying to say, but if everyone smaller than him keeps talking about how he is lifting wrong or how “atrocious” it is while ignoring that this is what built muscles that big on him, they don’t understand much about this at all.
This is a video of him lifting for his own benefit, not a video about how to train for the average beginner.
I know that text book form isn’t for everyone. I do what works for me. Atrocious is also defined as ugly to look at. Its ugly to look at too me because such form wouldnt work for me. I’m not trying to be disrespectful in any way or be another lesser individual judging Branch. I also consider myself in no way a beginner nor ignorant.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
“Atrocious”, along with Equipoise, Human Growth Hormone, Testanol, Winstrol and Decca built those delts…so what is the problem?[/quote]
Fixed your post Professor.
[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:
Professor X wrote:
“Atrocious”, along with Equipoise, Human Growth Hormone, Testanol, Winstrol and Decca built those delts…so what is the problem?
Fixed your post Professor.[/quote]
Actually, you didn’t. None of those cause a decrease in injury even though some may cause a decrease in joint pain and aid in recovery. In fact, many believe you may be MORE prone to tendon pulls and muscle tears. That means if he is lacking injury, his technique is what helped build those muscles as he would have suffered an injury if he was training “wrong” for his own body and never would have reached that size.
There, fixed your lack of experience.
I doubt anyone is in the dark about the use of anabolics, but thank you for pointing out the obvious, you sharp eyed devil you.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Word has it Bauer screams “COCKSTRONG MOTHERFUCKER!” before each set.[/quote]
Must you continually remind me of that nightmare? I have yet to return to that gym.
The fact that you even remember that so vividly is disturbing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
Fulmen wrote:
Every mother fucker here that’s ranting about the video or declaring partials as crap are the some of the smallest on this site.
I find that funny.
Yep, because after all: Bigger = Better, right?
:rolleyes:
Wow. On a bodybuilding forum, the guys who actually build some muscle tend to gain more praise than those who haven’t, even in videos.
If I was going to listen to how to train, it would not be from the guy who hadn’t built much size yet.
I do partials on some movements. There is also nothing wrong with it…because it works.[/quote]
I’m just going to pretend that somebody didn’t just roll their eyes at the prospect of “bigger = Better” on a bodybuilding website…
Anyway, I think a main point here people are missing, specifically people that have never tried it, is the misconception that partial reps are ‘easy’ or ‘cheating’.
If you haven’t tried them, next time you bench press, try only doing the first 3/4 of the movement from your chest, or even just the middle 50% of the movement.
It’s difficult, and effective, and I don’t think many inexperienced lifters who haven’t tried it have any idea what they’re talking about when they belittle it.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
then take the weight off for a warm up. its going to be as much for you putting it off as it is for me putting it on. shit is a total pain in the ass.
and how the hell do you warmup with the bar…it weighs 45 fucking pounds. unless you weigh 90 pounds and are a dwarf you shouldnt be doing that.[/quote]
It’s not like it’s a challenging weight. I just use it to get my form right and get the blood flowing. My max is nowhere close to 135. If you read the Westside Powerlifting thread in the Strength Sports forum, you’ll see most of the guys there start off with just the bar for bench, and they’re pretty strong. I understand on the leg press there’s no need to take off all the weight, but you use a lot less weight on the bench.
And I don’t think taking off 45’s is a good warmup for bench. It’s like saying you can warmup for bench by doing curls.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
Fulmen wrote:
Every mother fucker here that’s ranting about the video or declaring partials as crap are the some of the smallest on this site.
I find that funny.
Yep, because after all: Bigger = Better, right?
:rolleyes:
Wow. On a bodybuilding forum, the guys who actually build some muscle tend to gain more praise than those who haven’t, even in videos.
If I was going to listen to how to train, it would not be from the guy who hadn’t built much size yet.
I do partials on some movements. There is also nothing wrong with it…because it works.
I’m just going to pretend that somebody didn’t just roll their eyes at the prospect of “bigger = Better” on a bodybuilding website…
Anyway, I think a main point here people are missing, specifically people that have never tried it, is the misconception that partial reps are ‘easy’ or ‘cheating’.
If you haven’t tried them, next time you bench press, try only doing the first 3/4 of the movement from your chest, or even just the middle 50% of the movement.
It’s difficult, and effective, and I don’t think many inexperienced lifters who haven’t tried it have any idea what they’re talking about when they belittle it.
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It is also a great way to identify those who have made very little progress. I doubt any guy with significant muscle mass would believe that partials done the way more advanced lifters do them is “the easy way out”.
By the way, it’s good to see you posting again.
[quote]jp_dubya wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
Mr. Intensity wrote:
I’d so would have a body like Branch’s.
I have read this over and over and still can’t figure out what this means.
I would so would have a…[/quote]
physique?
Back in the day it was okay to grunt and scream when you lifted big. Now it seems to be taboo to make any noise.
I would so love to workout in a gym where the T-level was through the roof. The Adrenalin starts pumping through the veins just watching others workout. There are so many pussy gyms it isn’t funny anymore.
I’m pretty sure lowering 150# DB’s gently is asking for an injury. Serious lifting requires serious attitude. I’m not huge but I have had the privlege to workout in a real gym before, where everything was off scale, T-level, Adrenalin and Ego.
Partials are also a great way to avoid the part of the ROM that may aggravate an injury you may have.
Of course dropping plates may get you another injury. LOL
[quote]Reef wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
then take the weight off for a warm up. its going to be as much for you putting it off as it is for me putting it on. shit is a total pain in the ass.
and how the hell do you warmup with the bar…it weighs 45 fucking pounds. unless you weigh 90 pounds and are a dwarf you shouldnt be doing that.
It’s not like it’s a challenging weight. I just use it to get my form right and get the blood flowing. My max is nowhere close to 135. If you read the Westside Powerlifting thread in the Strength Sports forum, you’ll see most of the guys there start off with just the bar for bench, and they’re pretty strong. I understand on the leg press there’s no need to take off all the weight, but you use a lot less weight on the bench.
And I don’t think taking off 45’s is a good warmup for bench. It’s like saying you can warmup for bench by doing curls.
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like i said, putting ON a 45 on each side is just as big a pain in the ass for me as it is for you taking them OFF. its also going to be a lot less straining to you if after taking them off youre going to be using just the bar instead of adding on another 45 or something after that warmup.
i still dont see how benching just the bar can be called a warmup either.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
i still dont see how benching just the bar can be called a warmup either.
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Maybe he is a 110lbs woman? Outside of that, I honestly don’t see why a grown man would need to warm up with a weight that light either. That’s like saying he can’t do a pushup without warming up pressing his bed pillows first.
OK, so what if I want to start warming up with 95 or 115? Then what? If you put the weight on, take it the fuck off. I already said the bar is not a challenge. It’s not my only warmup set. I’m using WS4SB, and I pyramid the weight up, so I start with the bar, then move up to 95, then 135, then 185, and so on.
By the way, I’m 5-6 165. I know obviously I’m not huge, but I’m not skinny either.
[quote]Reef wrote:
OK, so what if I want to start warming up with 95 or 115? Then what? If you put the weight on, take it the fuck off. I already said the bar is not a challenge. It’s not my only warmup set. I’m using WS4SB, and I pyramid the weight up, so I start with the bar, then move up to 95, then 135, then 185, and so on.
By the way, I’m 5-6 165. I know obviously I’m not huge, but I’m not skinny either. [/quote]
You can take it how you want to. I’m glad you are in the gym trying to make progress. However, I think the main point is, if you have ever trained at a real gym (and by that, I mean one where most of the guys there look like they’ve been at it for a long time and passed up the average “small fitness physique” a long time ago) where the owner doesn’t give a shit outside of blatant destruction of property, why make an issue of it?
Yes, I do think warming up with the bar screams out “rank beginner”, but if that is what you are, work on getting past that level more than you worry about others making a comment about it. It’s still weak for the average lifter who is serious about training. Work until you aren’t.
I’m not a beginner. I’ve been training consistently for 4 years…on and off for 7. I’m not advanced by any means, but I’m not a beginner.
I don’t know how you can tell if I’m weak or not by what I lift for my first warm-up set (which I could get easily get for over 100 reps), especially when I have 4 more warm-up sets to do before I use my work set weight.
I actually see quite a few big and strong guys in my gym warm up first with just the bar. I’m not trying to be a dick, I just found it interesting here. Although it is definitely more hardcore to warm up with the 45’s I must say.